The Ongoing Debate

[snoopy1239]

Last night, it was clear that the topic of the day was the top heavy prize structure. £50k between 3rd and 1st sounded massive to me.

B4Matt suggested that we addressed it further on this board. Good idea.

Now, we've talked and talked (and sometimes argued) about deals, structures, and prizes on other threads, but how about using this one for possible suggestions. I've spoken to a few casino peeps about the topic, and I think you'd be surprised about how open minded they actually are.

I'll start:

When you register, you vote on what prize structure you want to play with. Just a tick in a box or something, nothing complicated. The winning vote is then implemented. It's the players in that specific comp who should decide. Why can't we have varying structures depending on the views of the players involved. I see no reason for such regimentation.

This way, no1 can moan at the casino staff. They're just going with what the players want.

What do you reckon?

Any other ideas?

[RED-DOG]

I'm all debated out, It's wrong, I know it's wrong, you know it's wrong, they know it's wrong.

Even with issues that the majority agree upon, you will always find someone with the opposite view

[b4matt]

My preference is to pay 10% of the field with top places being paid as follows-

1st 32%.   2nd 22%    3rd 12%    4th 8%     5th 7%     6th 6%      7th 5%      8th 4%     9th 2 1/2%   10th 1 1/2%   = %100

For more than 100 runners then it needs tweaking but it would mean prizes of-

£32k for 1st

£5k for 7th

£1.5k for 10th

Based on a buy in of £1k with 100 runners.

This maybe isn't everyones cuppa but hey... you can please some of the people some of the time, but ya can't please em all, all of the time.

[Sheriff Fatman]

I can't understand why they don't just take one of the online site standard structures such as Party or Stars and implement the same thing.  Their payouts are logical and address many of the criticisms that we seem to have about the existing payouts.

Is it really that difficult?

Sheriff

[madasahatstand]

if you let people vote then no-one knows what the structure will be prior and may or may not put people off? its a good democratic idea however

[BlueWolf]

i agree hence why i started a topic on it myself, i'm hopin to change the one at the broadway when i go back so suggestions are welcome.


I agree with usin online ones totally and 30% is good for 1st

[ifm]

Snoops, having a vote would just cause arguments when the vote is over.
Poll the regulars and find a structure they are happy with, don't just change it, this is why cardrooms have had disgruntled customers.
At the end of the day the structure at walsall was known beforehand and shed loads of people showed up, that is why it won't be changed.

[RED-DOG]

It's not just about people showing up, if all the shops only sold fruit and veg we would still turn up to buy them, even Colchester Kev

surely it would be better for us to turn up AND be happy with the structure

[ifm]

I'm not saying their structure is right, i'm saying that while bums are on seats the management won't be eager to change anything.

[Colchester Kev]

It's not just about people showing up, if all the shops only sold fruit and veg we would still turn up to buy them, even Colchester Kev

Not true, I would starve to death !!

[snoopy1239]

Snoops, having a vote would just cause arguments when the vote is over.
Poll the regulars and find a structure they are happy with, don't just change it, this is why cardrooms have had disgruntled customers.
At the end of the day the structure at walsall was known beforehand and shed loads of people showed up, that is why it won't be changed.

the regulars don't necessarily play the festival comps.

At least my way caters for the player involved in that particular comp.

As for arguments, well, we're getting them anyhow.

How can people argue about a fair vote? At the moment, we have no real say.

[Karabiner]

Well I just have to assume that the casino head honchos are keener on dangling the £70k 1st prize out there.

And bugger the poker players, what else could it be ?

We're all blue in the face now, well I am anyhow.

Last week I thought that we had made some progress. Dani asked me to suggest some payout structures and even
took me into the holy of holys inside the pit to show me what they were going to payout on the casino computer.

33% Dani and Richard said on Friday evening, and agreed in principle to all of our suggestions.

I turn up on Saturday for the tourney and the original 40/20/10% jobbie is printed on the form.

WTF

[snoopy1239]

if you let people vote then no-one knows what the structure will be prior and may or may not put people off? its a good democratic idea however

good point

[RED-DOG]

Have you ever heard anyone complain about an online prize structure?

I haven't, why? because it's fair!

[snoopy1239]

At the very least, I'd like to see the structure of festival events change.

How about this? Vote when you register for a festival event, then, when the next festival arrives, the most popular voted for can be implemented. The structue can also be advertised in advance this way.