The Ongoing Debate

[thetank]

I dislike referendums, we elect the government to govern and they should just get on with it.

On a smaller scale, I don't like 'the vote for a prize structure' on the night plan. Are we all going to tick boxes to say what sandwiches we would like. How about a ticky box for how you want the final table dealer to wear her hair.

Polling the regulars and sticking to that is a nice idea though. (On the prize sructure, Molly should be able to choose her own hairstyle)

Maybe they've done that already. The average recreational player wants the possibility of bigger paydays.

[snoopy1239]

How about a ticky box for how you want the final table dealer to wear her hair.

As long as she's female

[RED-DOG]

Listen Snoops, we have said the structure is too top heavy, the TD's and cardroom super's have said it's too top heavy

During all these debates only one person has said it's ok the way it is, and he admits to doing deals and says it's not that important to him anyway

Who voted for it to be the way it is now? No one!

Everyone I talked to at the festival thought the prize structure was disgusting, how many complained? almost none

I'm sick of banging my head against a brick wall, poker players don't want to vote, they want to play poker

Forget the voting idea ffs it will just delay things by another couple of years, if a flatter structure is wrong it will be no more wrong than it is now

[Karabiner]

Besides which polls are only representative of opinions on here, and as such mean very little except to us.

[snoopy1239]

Besides which polls are only representative of opinions on here, and as such mean very little except to us.

the poll I was suggesting was not a blonde one

[snoopy1239]

To be honest, I was inviting suggestions with this thread.

I made 1, whether it was a good one or not, at least it was a suggestion.

[Karabiner]

The problem lies IMO with the fact that in every poker-playing casino there are a dozen or so regular winners.

They favour a top heavy payout structure because they are there or thereabouts more often or not.

Bigger tourneys need a flatter structure, but the casino management owe their regulars loyalty.

This is what I feel is the crux of the matter.

[RED-DOG]

Er 

I might have said this before but.......


THAT DOSN'T APPLY TO FESTIVALS

[tikay]

Walsall Management showed me on Saturday a significantly flatter structure which they intend to implement at the next Festival.

So there the matter can rest, until the next Fessie. Thety have assured me it will be used, the argument is over. For now.

[RED-DOG]

Walsall is great, oh yeah, ba de da da ba da de dah dum!

[bobby1]

Tony, that is good news for this particular cardroom but this is a countrywide problem, the Casinos are run by people that seem uninterested in listening to the majority of their clients. Walsall  may have done this and fair play to them if they have but every Casino in the country has payout structures that are just not fair.

I dont even see what the benefit is to the Casinos themselves, the more money that they share around, the more chance they have of getting some of it reinvested in other areas.

I have played tournies with structures like the one last weekend and it is the reason I very rarely play live anymore. I have had the feeling many times over that the gent that finished tenth on Sunday must have had.......was that all really worth it?

[snoopy1239]

I was told that the player representatives of walsall saw the prize structure and agreed to it, which is why it was implemented.

I'm not sure how many of them were playing tho.

[bobby1]

Snoopy, who were the player reps?

[tikay]

bobby, we must NOT be defeastist about this situation.

Forum pressure changed the structures at Notts, will help change it at Walsall, & we can do it elsewhere if need be. And we will - if that's what the majority want.

It really ain't as difficult as you think.

BELIEVE1

[snoopy1239]

Snoopy, who were the player reps?

They pick about 5 i think.

however, I asked craig and he said he knew nothing about it.