Robbed? You tell me.....

[The Big Slick]

Now Then - Now Then.

In reply to the tank who said "Yes, so don't", does that mean don't touch the table with any part of your body at all?  Then how can I pick up my cards?

And yes, this is pedantic 

[ifm]

I've never heard it either

Can the TD not prder a new flop if he gave a ruling in Bigslicks favour?

[GlasgowBandit]

It's common in the UK bundle.

  Really ? That seems so strange....

As Tank points out bundle it is quite common to hear such thingas as "no raise" or "no bet" at the table.

To Big Slick, you had an opportinity to raise this with the TD and you never took the oportunity.

If someone said you checked you obviously disagree and the dealer agrees with the complainer there seems ample time here for you to object further before any other cards are turned over.

[The Big Slick]

Now Then - Now Then.

To GlasgowBandit.
I would have loved to have got a ruling from the TD, but as I previously stated, the flop had been dealt. I am unaware a new flop could be dealt.
Hope someone will enlighten us on that point

[GlasgowBandit]

I am not a 100% certaon on this but if the TD had ruled in your favour then I am sure there could have been another flop dealt or the hand declared void with all betters receiving their chips back and the card been re-dealt.

[redsimon]

Now Then - Now Then.

In reply to the tank who said "Yes, so don't", does that mean don't touch the table with any part of your body at all?  Then how can I pick up my cards?

And yes, this is pedantic 

Only from dealing at Notts Gala I would say touching the table is OK, it's the tap tap tap which could be seen as a check.

Whenever I have had a player do this, usually innocently, I have half jokingly said straight away "be careful, they could say you're checking". Usually wises them up.

Lesson here is don't give the angle shooters enough rope to hang you.

[thetank]

Now Then - Now Then.

Then how can I pick up my cards?

Picking up cards vs. drum solo? Come on now.



Sorry to appear unsympathetic, but that's the game of poker sometimes.

Wasn't very nice of the man who pulled the stroke, but chalk it up, never let a cat fool ya twice.

Ceratainly not healthy to sit down and work out the exact %'s you would have had to win the hand on each street if you managed to raise and the rags folded. That ain't doing you any good.

[bundle]

NO RAISE. It just serves no purpose, and can most certainly cause  problems..

I mean how F#$%@#$ hard is it to say CHECK

I heard about actionjack being warned for not speaking English at the table. Now I’m sure you guys will have no problems, but if you find yourself at the WSOP this year, you might want to be careful about saying nae RAISE. It’s all the dealer needs to hear to make you raise.

[thetank]

I agree bundle. The less chance of ambiguity in a player declaring their betting actions the better.

It's born of dealers asking the big blind "Any Raise?" or just "Any?" when perhaps they should ask "Check or Raise"

I'm guilty of that myself sometimes, old habits die hard I guess.

[dik9]

The dealer asks the big blind "Any raise?" to which the usual saying is "No" or "No raise" although some people say "Check".

The TD has the right to order a new flop if he thought you had been "done"

The TD also has the say on angle shooting, is the person calling the attention of tapping angle shooting, or is the person tapping guilty of angle shooting indicating that is his next action, leaving players with the thought they may see a cheap flop. Then being able to raise???

If you were guilty of it being taken as a check then you are also guilty of acting out of turn. As said before nothing is black and white most decisions are grey and taken as it has been told or seen.

[bundle]

The dealer asks the big blind "Any raise?"

  I don't think the dealer should be saying anything other than Action to you mate.

[dik9]

Then they post what they think is their blind, cuz the buggers aint paying attention and i may have already withheld their big blind if they won the previous pot. It isn't really inciting action it is the fact that everyone has had the opportunity and i am asking the big blind if they wish to raise as it is now their opportunity.

[bundle]

I understand what you are saying and you are moving the game along. But do you see how it could cause problems at the WSOP, or at least hold the game up while players argue about what he said….. Is this No raise used in the rest of Europe too?. 

[mex]

OOO can i stick an oar in. He said tapping the rail? The rail doesn't count as the table does it? tapping the rail surley isn't checking.Whens the last time you saw a check by taping the rail? If it was ambiquious the dealer would ask is that a check?
What about performing a chip trick like a pull over, your taping the table here.
But tapping the table making noises humming etc while others are acting is rude anyway.

[snoopy1239]

Got pulled up (by Snoopy who was dealing I think), for this at BB2 - was tapping the table, then went raise. Was told that the tapping could have been taken as a check. Friendly tourney so I said OK then if anyone thought I'd checked then we'll count it as a check. I was lucky enough that my KK stood up.

Doubt it was angle shooting though - just me having a  .

If it was me (not sure, can't remember), then I was probably just pulling your leg. I'd never be that mean at a social event.