The term Bad-Beat

[mjrevie]

This might be a daft question but I think different people have different definitions of what a bad beat is and I am interested in hearing what people define a bad beat to be. To me, having jacks and losing a pre-flop all in to AK is not a bad beat but some people claim it is. Losing to someone going all in on a flush draw on the flop, again I dont regard as a bad beat. I suppose I think a bad beat is when pre-flop an overpair versus two lower cards or a lower pair loses or on the flop or turn, if someone has less than say a 10-20% chance of hitting and they hit.

Any thoughts?

Think i might just be rambling. Really should be working!

[londonpokergirl]

how about hitting quads online in a cash game, getting all the money in, for the other person
to hit runner runner bigger quads

thats my term of "bad beat"     evil game

[Nem]

This is a 'Bad Beat' Copied from TillerMaN's Blog

"Two and a half years of poker nearly and this is the most amazing hand I have ever played especially since it happened in a good sized pot :-

I am playing $25/$50 No Limit and a player raises to $200 from UTG+1 at a full ring game. One player in middle position calls the $200 and I find myself on the button with . I call the $200 and raise $600 more, we all have $5000 stacks. The UTG+1 raiser instantly calls the $600 more, I put him on a range of 99-KK in my head. The middle position callers folds.

The pot is $1875 at this point.

The flop comes .

Sweet flop! My opponent now bets into me $1000 and I am now convinced he has something like KK, QQ, JJ and feel like I am going to win a full buy in from him. I reraise small, calling his $1000 and raising $1200 more. He instantly pushes all in and I call creating a $10,000 pot.

He turns over 5d5s and I am now instantly a 989-1 underdog on the flop? Omg, I was in shock when I saw his hand here.

The turn comes the  .
The river comes the .

LOL! The whole table was in shock as was I, but I wasn't to upset for him to be honest =)

Less than five minutes later another amazing hand happens but versus a short stack so not quite as big an addrennaline rush :-)"

[thetank]

Two quotes I like on the subject. The first from Shana Hyatt on a WPT series one episode.

"A beat is when a hand that was the statistical favourite to win the pot loses.
A bad beat is when it happens to you"

The second is from RED_DOG's profile.

In answer to the Question of what his biggest pet hate is.....

"Players who think a bad beat is losing a hand of poker"

[Nem]

LOL

[Gilbern74]

From http://www.dictionaryofgambling.com/gambling_terms/all_gambling_terms/b/
Bad-Beat Story [Poker]
   A story told by someone who lost a pot, often a big one, in a bad beat. Usually no one but the teller is interested in hearing the story. <LOL>      The analog in the fishing world is the one that got away.   



Whilst looking for this I found this page   http://askmrpokerperson.blogspot.com/2005_12_01_askmrpokerperson_archive.html   which is mildy amusing on a Friday. It goes like this:




Dear Mr. Poker Person,
What is the origin of the term “runner-runner?”
Boston Sam


Dear Sam,

With a masters degree in Linguistics from the highly prestigious University of Chicago (are you impressed?), Mr. Poker Person is the perfect source for information like this.

“Runner-runner” is from the Polynesian runna-runna meaning “lucky bastard who just sucked out on me and whose luck is going to change just as soon as I get my hands on his scrawny little neck!”

Interestingly, the phrase “to catch runner-runner” originally referred to an ancient ritual wherein an overly lucky opponent was hunted down and his testicles cut off. (Sucking out is taboo for poker-playing Polynesian women. Aren’t primitive cultures just so quaint and adorable! Mr. Poker Person thinks so, too.) The offender's parts were then stuffed down his throat, extracted via his rectum using a Garden Weasel™ and fed to pigs. As you can see, the meaning of this phrase has changed over time. Like bad beats in poker, this kind of thing happens all the time in languages. Get over it.

By the way, "sucking out" comes from the Indonesian sookang gat which refers to a form of ESP whereby a person has a premonition of a soon to occur event that is both highly desirable and highly unlikely, as in "I called your large bet even though I only had one out and insufficient odds because I just knew I'd catch the case ace on the river."

As always, remember to stay out of the muck.

Your friend,
Mr. Poker Person