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Sark79
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March 27, 2006, 06:33:02 PM »
Quote from: Tank Maestro on March 27, 2006, 06:29:02 PM
Sark it is only stt and sixpac results. It doesn't include ring games or mtt's.
ok, cheers. I have been going through my results book and I get a different result than they do. I thought they were probably correct because I am crap at maths. However now I know it is STT, then that is ok. I don't play them..
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March 27, 2006, 06:33:11 PM »
This can't be right. It claims I'm a winning player on crypto. It's all lies, I'm a fish!
On a serious note, though, I quite like the site, simple layout and nice to have that sort of info for crypto, too - think it may be the first site around that covers crypto, no?
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March 27, 2006, 06:34:54 PM »
Quote from: thetank on March 27, 2006, 06:32:42 PM
MTT results can be found at thepokerdb.com
Ring Game Results can be found in your bank account. Other peoples are, to be frank, none of your buisness
lol... I like the 'found in your bank account'. That explains why I am always broke
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March 27, 2006, 07:07:42 PM »
Quote from: thetank on March 27, 2006, 05:52:56 PM
My best estimate is that it has around 70-75% of the total results bagged.
A win ratio of >0.2 required to be a shark.
My win ratio from the 2,198 results it has for me is only 0.19. Gutted.
Darn tempting to see how I compare to some of my regular opponents, I'll try not to.
tank, i think itr might be 0.5 or above to be a shark because out of my 3 accounts i have 0.2, 0.44 and 0.5 and its only the 0.5 that has a shark by it
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dan
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March 27, 2006, 07:46:55 PM »
isnt it classed as cheating to look at other people info?
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March 27, 2006, 07:55:34 PM »
Yes, that's why I just looked at my own.
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March 27, 2006, 07:59:44 PM »
why is it classed as cheating?
I'd say it was more of an invasion of privacy!
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March 27, 2006, 11:11:09 PM »
Quote from: dan on March 27, 2006, 05:18:16 PM
ive typed in all 3 accounts that i have and im in profit in all of them and on one im a shark
Definitley wrong then
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March 28, 2006, 01:43:35 AM »
interesting pity it only shows the one site where i played for a few games and withdrew my bank roll
I am super tilt
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March 28, 2006, 12:11:31 PM »
Quote from: ifm on March 27, 2006, 11:11:09 PM
Quote from: dan on March 27, 2006, 05:18:16 PM
ive typed in all 3 accounts that i have and im in profit in all of them and on one im a shark
Definitley wrong then
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March 28, 2006, 02:06:19 PM »
Quote from: Gamblor21 on March 27, 2006, 07:59:44 PM
why is it classed as cheating?
I'd say it was more of an invasion of privacy!
I'd say that was more to the point. I can't understand what relevance someone's actual profit/loss in $ is to anyone who might be using that site to gain info on opponents anyway, and that seems to step into the boundaries of personal info, particularly for those people who make a living out of playing.
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March 28, 2006, 05:40:31 PM »
It states in the F&Q's that the results are for just Stt's on Crypto (NOT 6pak's)and for Stt's and Sit N Go Mtt's on PokerStars. This should explain why some are confused by the results. They also state that they manage record around 95% of these tournements played. So I'd say the results are pretty accurate.
The site can easily be used to gain an advantage on your opponenets. By typing in the names of each of the player's you're in an STT with you can see who are the better players to stay clear of (Sharks), and which ones are more likely to donk their chips off to you (Fish). Not only this but by looking at their average stake played you can also tell if they may be playing "out of their depth", which is likely to imply they will be playing a weaker, more scared game.
It may seem as a bit of an unfair advantage to have over opponents, but while the tool is there to be used, why not do so! Although, to be honest, I'm really suprised such information is available.
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March 28, 2006, 07:30:41 PM »
thats the site i was looking for when i started the other thread!!!!!!
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March 28, 2006, 10:19:30 PM »
Quote from: Coca919 on March 28, 2006, 05:40:31 PM
why not do so!
Perhaps because you're an honest player, who believes that you should not breach the terms and conditions of a website that you agreed upon when you signed up in a legally binding mouse click.
In short - coz it's cheating
Sorry to harp on about this, a players choice of what to do is their own personal desicion. I just want to help people make desicions based on the facts. Most players are ethical. The vast majority who make use these types of service do not know they are cheating, and would not do so if they did.
thepokerdb.com is ok to use. It tracks a players gross MTT results, rather than thir net winnings and is no different to live tournament result listings on sites such as blondepoker or cardplayer. As far as I know, the major rooms are ok with that one.
A service such as this, which tells you how much a player is up or down is a big no-no with the major poker rooms though.
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March 28, 2006, 11:33:44 PM »
It may appear unethical, but if it is in-deed totally legal then surely it will just become another poker tool available to us. Although, I haven't actually used it for the purposes I described myself yet, I just suggested why it could be used to a players advantage (because someone asked what use it would be to have this information on an opponent).
A player can request to have their data removed from the site if they wish, maybe this is why it's allowed?!
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