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Nem
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May 07, 2006, 08:00:34 PM »
Porto won the competition under the current format. Flushie is on about the 2 group stages, I think Milan won it last under that format in 2003.
With the new format, any team can win the competition(Porto, Liverpool and Arsenal). However, under the old format, the more financially successful, historically bigger clubs would win the competition. Therefore, I like the new format.
2005 Liverpool 3-2 AC Milan
2004 FC Porto 3-0 AS Monaco FC
2003 AC Milan 3-2 Juventus
2002 Real Madrid CF 2-1 Bayer Leverkusen
2001 FC Bayern München 5-4 penalties
2000 Real Madrid CF 3-0 Valencia CF
1999 Manchester United FC 2-1 FC Bayern München
1998 Real Madrid CF 3-0 Valencia CF
1997 Borussia Dortmund 3-1 Juventus FC
1996 Juventus FC 4-2 Ajax
1995 AFC Ajax 1-0 AC Milan
1994 AC Milan 4-0 FC Barcelona
1993 Olympique de Marseille 1-0 AC Milan
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4 teams from 1 country is a farce, don't get me started on this!
Its all about the money & you know it.
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May 07, 2006, 08:06:55 PM »
Quote from: Teacake on May 07, 2006, 08:03:23 PM
4 teams from 1 country is a farce, don't get me started on this!
Its all about the money & you know it.
Obviously. But, for the sake of meltdown and to save the game and stop the G14 breaking away and starting their own league, they had to introduced 4 teams.
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May 07, 2006, 08:12:20 PM »
Quote from: Teacake on May 07, 2006, 08:03:23 PM
4 teams from 1 country is a farce, don't get me started on this!
Its all about the money & you know it.
Not if those 4 teams are miles better than the champions of another country. The neutral would much rather see Real Madrid vs Milan than TNS vs Brondby next season.
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May 07, 2006, 08:26:20 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on May 07, 2006, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: Teacake on May 07, 2006, 08:03:23 PM
4 teams from 1 country is a farce, don't get me started on this!
Its all about the money & you know it.
Not if those 4 teams are miles better than the champions of another country. The neutral would much rather see Real Madrid vs Milan than TNS vs Brondby next season.
Thank you for re emphasising my point, its all about the money.
4th placed teams winning the CHAMPIONS League is farcical
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May 07, 2006, 08:35:24 PM »
Quote from: Teacake on May 07, 2006, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: The Baron on May 07, 2006, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: Teacake on May 07, 2006, 08:03:23 PM
4 teams from 1 country is a farce, don't get me started on this!
Its all about the money & you know it.
Not if those 4 teams are miles better than the champions of another country. The neutral would much rather see Real Madrid vs Milan than TNS vs Brondby next season.
Thank you for re emphasising my point, its all about the money.
4th placed teams winning the CHAMPIONS League is farcical
It is all about the money yes, agreed, but to say it is a farce is comical.
A group consisting of Real Madrid, Milan, Man U and Dortmund or a group of TNS, Brondby, Shakthar Donetsk and Celtic?
Hmmm tough choice. Now, which one is the farce?
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May 07, 2006, 08:43:12 PM »
Its easy to solve.. just dont get too hung up on the name... They could of renamed it once more than the champions were allowed in but I suppose by then they had built a brand...
We all want to see our teams play the likes of Milan and Barca so I wont be complaining about the 4 PL teams being entered...now all they have to do is get in the top 4!!
Intertoto is the New Champions League anyways!
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May 07, 2006, 08:46:31 PM »
What they need to do is make the UEFA Cup the exact format the Champs League is.
Anyone know why UEFA hasn't done this?
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May 07, 2006, 08:49:15 PM »
having just got back from highbury - what a day and what a send off to Highbury.
Unlucky Spurs - but over 38 games the better team has finished in 4th position.
Now just 10 days to my trip to Paris and i am just counting down now with so much excitement.
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May 07, 2006, 08:49:30 PM »
Quote from: Nemesis on May 07, 2006, 08:46:31 PM
What they need to do is make the UEFA Cup the exact format the Champs League is.
Anyone know why UEFA hasn't done this?
The amount of games boro have played in that competition is a joke... they are degrading it with its current format...dare I say intentionally to ensure they maximise the revenue from the CL to keep G14 clubs happy?
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May 07, 2006, 08:51:25 PM »
Quote from: Rooky9 on May 07, 2006, 08:49:30 PM
Quote from: Nemesis on May 07, 2006, 08:46:31 PM
What they need to do is make the UEFA Cup the exact format the Champs League is.
Anyone know why UEFA hasn't done this?
The amount of games boro have played in that competition is a joke... they are degrading it with its current format...dare I say intentionally to ensure they maximise the revenue from the CL to keep G14 clubs happy?
If they made the UEFA Cup the same format, it would close the gap on the big 4 and make our leagues more competitive.
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May 07, 2006, 08:54:04 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on May 07, 2006, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: Teacake on May 07, 2006, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: The Baron on May 07, 2006, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: Teacake on May 07, 2006, 08:03:23 PM
4 teams from 1 country is a farce, don't get me started on this!
Its all about the money & you know it.
Not if those 4 teams are miles better than the champions of another country. The neutral would much rather see Real Madrid vs Milan than TNS vs Brondby next season.
Thank you for re emphasising my point, its all about the money.
4th placed teams winning the CHAMPIONS League is farcical
It is all about the money yes, agreed, but to say it is a farce is comical.
A group consisting of Real Madrid, Milan, Man U and Dortmund or a group of TNS, Brondby, Shakthar Donetsk and Celtic?
Hmmm tough choice. Now, which one is the farce?
The first one obviously as they couldn't all be in the same group DUH!
In fact both as the second lot couldn't be in the same group either DOUBLE DUH!
Come back when you understand how the competion works!
The Uefa would be a better comp if if the CL was restricted to 2 max from each country as it would be a much stronger comp ie Liverpool, Arsenal, Inter etc would all be in it from the start.
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Re: 4th Place Baby Woooooooooooo
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May 07, 2006, 08:55:31 PM »
Quote from: Teacake on May 07, 2006, 08:26:20 PM
4th placed teams winning the CHAMPIONS League is farcical
By all means have a premier European competition with all the top big money clubs from the big money leagues.
Just don't call it the "Champions" League coz it's fookin not.
Not really a League either come to think of it, it's well daft.
What can we call it next year instead, any ideas?
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May 07, 2006, 08:55:37 PM »
Quote from: Nemesis on May 07, 2006, 08:46:31 PM
What they need to do is make the UEFA Cup the exact format the Champs League is.
Anyone know why UEFA hasn't done this?
I would say fixture lists also play a part but primarily Rooky is correct. TV rights and money.
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May 07, 2006, 08:56:03 PM »
End of the day Celtic are a far bigger club that anyone in the premiership apart from Man U.
Celtic should be in there ahead of any club that finnishes 4th in a domestic league. Its not the fault of Celtic Football club or our fans that we play in a piss poor domestic league!
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