Launch of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour (APAT)

[Royal Flush]

Best of blonde for this thread, its the most entertaining thread in months!

[Dewi_cool]

I have bit of a serious question to ask, just to let everyone know I have joined and think it's a great idea,

however the question is  how do we tell the difference between a professional and an amateur?

[Wardonkey]

I have bit of a serious question to ask, just to let everyone know I have joined and think it's a great idea,

however the question is  how do we tell the difference between a professional and an amateur?

Answer is 42...

[byronkincaid]

Ah Dewi, forgot about you. You're on Telly aren't you

PM sent.

[Karabiner]

I blame Booder for bringing up table-balancing again.....

[thetank]

Answer is 42...

Right answer, wrong thread, Mr. Adams.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=13163.0

[AdamM]

FFS i said I was wrong about the homemaker/student thing. i realise people in these circumstances could actually afford a £75 comp.

if you're unemployed and not looking for work because you're making a living out of poker then you're a pro is what i was saying. in that situation you shouldnt be signing on

as for the rest of the abuse, that's it, Ive had enough of the place. I've been here from the start and seen it go from a tight but friendly community to a large but cliquey whale.

rather than give me a vchance to clarify or read my second post that takes back some of what I said some peopel as usual are determined to take the worst interpretation, and even throw insults. i don't recognise the place anymore.

Im outta here

[thediceman]

I have no problems playing against anybody however the APAT competitions have been declared as to provided recreational/hobby players with the oppunitunity to experience playing events with deeper stacked structures such as may be played in the main events at various UK festivals. However we are getting people who already play these main event festival wanting to play in these APAT events because they may be fun. For me to allow any player who already has had the experience to play at these level of games just means that it goes against the original concept of giving those that haven't the opportunity the chance of something new.

Re: defining pro/amateurstatus I think it is a waste of time as it is clear people disagree on what factors should be used to define these categories. I think it is impossible to define a players status by the amount of there poker winnings as this is impossible to monitor 100%. This is very difficult at best and in reality unworkable. I also disagree that a players pro/amateur status should be defined by the rankings as in reality most people would still qualify to play even those who play in many a main event already.

The defining factor for me is, have these players experienced the format of a big game tournament before, ie are these players regular faces that have been seen on the UK festival circuit. Such a loose definition is enough that it gives a clear indication of whether you can people in the APAT event yet allow the organisers the flexibility to employ their own discretion. To allow players who have already experienced playing it such levels really in the spirit of the initial concept "to provide an experience to the recreational/hobby player". I understand some festival players want to play for the social element but to allow them to do so merely weakens the concept this is an amateur poker association and rather redefines it as an anybody poker association.

Imagine the APATs first final table, we have Red Dog, Wardonkey, Rob Yong, a number of others regular faces from the UK festival circuit. Yes I'm sure it will be a great fun event as these are likeable characters but is it a final of recreational/hobby players and does it give any real creditability that this is an amateur competition organised by an association with the amateur players interests in mind???.

[Karabiner]

Okay so how about open to anyone who has not ever bought in directly to a festival main event ?

That might be definitive but not too exclusive.

[thediceman]

I've been here from the start and seen it go from a tight but friendly community to a large but cliquey whale.

Adam, sorry you leaving but fully understand your decision and fully agree with your above statement. I however will continue to stand my ground against the ongoing cliques even though I have been subjected to personal insults and threats such as "sorting me out in person", all of which have brought me great humour as I'm not actually a small bloke and do not scare easily. I hope to met you at somepoint in the future on the poker circuit, maybe even at one of your home games.

Good luck with your ongoing poker ventures  

[TightEnd]

er, is it possible for everyone to now wait and see what we come up with on the various contentious issues?


and then proceed to rip those to pieces too?  


Loving the feedback, lots of good arguments.....we'll be in touch!!

[turny]

FFS i said I was wrong about the homemaker/student thing. i realise people in these circumstances could actually afford a £75 comp.

if you're unemployed and not looking for work because you're making a living out of poker then you're a pro is what i was saying. in that situation you shouldnt be signing on

as for the rest of the abuse, that's it, Ive had enough of the place. I've been here from the start and seen it go from a tight but friendly community to a large but cliquey whale.

rather than give me a vchance to clarify or read my second post that takes back some of what I said some peopel as usual are determined to take the worst interpretation, and even throw insults. i don't recognise the place anymore.

Im outta here

adam sorry you feel that way but may i suggest instead of taking back what you say you actually think things through before you say them.  just a suggestion.
(spose dont matter now u gone)

[Wardonkey]

I am a professional poker player yes, but I am not a 'familiar face' on any live poker scene. The only main events I have played in I have won my seat in a satelite. I have played about 5 festivals in the last 3 years.

I earn my money playing STTs on the internet and nowhere near enough to consider playing a festival once a month. Like the rest of you I have to pick and choose my live events with care.  The type of event being organised by APAT is attractive tor me because it would be a good opportunity to practise playing with a deep stack and a decent clock. Also I am always keen to socialise with blonde members and other poker players, it is so much more fun than grinding away on the net.

I have the same reasons as the rest of you for wanting to play and I can't see a good reason why i should not be allowed to.

Soz Tighty Iwrote this b4 I saw your post...

[byronkincaid]

I have been subjected to personal insults and threats such as "sorting me out in person",

Here on Blonde?? Who by?

[turny]

I have been subjected to personal insults and threats such as "sorting me out in person",

Here on Blonde?? Who by?

yeah please name names