standard of live poker is getting scary....

[Acidmouse]

you don't wanna be risking your tournament life with Ace high mate. It's a drawing hand.

My last two live games I have left deep in the Tourney with AK all in preflop. Never again!

[TightEnd]

Against a rookie who wanted to push all in pre flop with anything seemingly and had no concept of deepish stack festival play, I wasn't going to pass AK there. Against a known player or players to raise/re-raise heavy action I might well do so, thats the difference.


After a nights sleep it does make me laugh. 15 or 20 of these numpties had the rest of the field (mostly by then on the cash tables!!!) chuntering away.

I'll look later to see how many made the final with elblondie, 77dave and ash hussain


my over/under is 0/1!!

[ACE2M]

m3boy points out a very good point, live cash games are currently bananas. Get in a £25 dealers choice at a casino with a low buy in tourney night and they have barely mastered the basics of hold em tournament play so cash omaha and irish are just insane value. I have had some good tournament results this year and am significantly ahead but i've made more in the 7 nights of dealers choice i've played this year than the tournament winnings added together.

In these games your solid play really does pay, these games often end up with a 1k - 2k at the table within a couple of hours and i've emptied them 3 times. I've started to raise every hand at the start now to get the action going and just seems to snowball for about 4 hours of crazy money. Choose your game wisely though, i went to play with the bigger boys after one night and although the standard is not exactly top class they are total loons and you need deep pockets.

[matt674]

m3boy points out a very good point, live cash games are currently bananas.

really?!?!?! i may have to check out these live cash games!! 

[TightEnd]

m3boy points out a very good point, live cash games are currently bananas. Get in a £25 dealers choice at a casino with a low buy in tourney night and they have barely mastered the basics of hold em tournament play so cash omaha and irish are just insane value. I have had some good tournament results this year and am significantly ahead but i've made more in the 7 nights of dealers choice i've played this year than the tournament winnings added together.

In these games your solid play really does pay, these games often end up with a 1k - 2k at the table within a couple of hours and i've emptied them 3 times. I've started to raise every hand at the start now to get the action going and just seems to snowball for about 4 hours of crazy money. Choose your game wisely though, i went to play with the bigger boys after one night and although the standard is not exactly top class they are total loons and you need deep pockets.

this is exactly right


on the right night, especially fridays/saturdays in provincial casinos some players are in the cash games to gamble..an alternative to roulette if you will...rather than play good poker

I know in my local several regulars winning consistently from the steady supply of spratt fed into these games with deep pockets. Balls of steel occasionally required though when you want to pass but have to call because the percentages suggest this would pay against this type of player

[Dingdell]

I object to being called sprat - stop wittering and go win a sattelitte.

[TightEnd]

I object to being called sprat - stop wittering and go win a sattelitte.

you are up to shark level these days.

No, I'm referring to casino game punters sitting in the hold em cash games and punting. Or just the rich loosey gooseys

[Dingdell]

I object to being called sprat - stop wittering and go win a sattelitte.

you are up to shark level these days.

No, I'm referring to casino game punters sitting in the hold em cash games and punting. Or just the rich loosey gooseys

I was thinking I was the  rich loosey goosey?

[Raindogs]

Just watched Dimitri Nobles donk off his stack at the WSOP main event.  Its a pity the TV programmes don't show more of this rather than cocentrating on the suck out's.  I just love when the odds catch up with the gamblers.

[quantify]

i have reallly started something here .........
firstly dingdellyou took me out at the fitzwilliam after the ept final table, i offer no excuse for playin 35 92 93 and reraising those oirish guys ....  it was all planned to pass my chips to you......  your a decent player unlik the lady who shall remain nameless ...  even though flushy named her lol


right ..........  last night colchester kev was watching over my shoulder .......... he watched one guy calll bets on every street with ace high on both occasions he was against 88 .. on both occasions there was a k on board  he hit the ace on the river twice.................

but the worst one was ben from brum who had 3 limpers into his aa he potted it and got one caller who ha q7 he potted it ben repotted and the board was qt2k7.

me and woodley gave him the bird..........   he then tok me in a hand were we both hit trip 444 he then said........... there you go , i just play poker whilst you 2 can only talk about it........................  so funny the response was ,,,,, the good thing about giving chips to you is they wont be with you long.......... at which point i thought he was going to explode ..............  woodley has some great lines......

[tikay]

i have reallly started something here .........
firstly dingdellyou took me out at the fitzwilliam after the ept final table, i offer no excuse for playin 35 92 93 and reraising those oirish guys ....  it was all planned to pass my chips to you......  your a decent player unlik the lady who shall remain nameless ...  even though flushy named her lol


right ..........  last night colchester kev was watching over my shoulder .......... he watched one guy calll bets on every street with ace high on both occasions he was against 88 .. on both occasions there was a k on board  he hit the ace on the river twice.................

but the worst one was ben from brum who had 3 limpers into his aa he potted it and got one caller who ha q7 he potted it ben repotted and the board was qt2k7.

me and woodley gave him the bird..........   he then tok me in a hand were we both hit trip 444 he then said........... there you go , i just play poker whilst you 2 can only talk about it........................  so funny the response was ,,,,, the good thing about giving chips to you is they wont be with you long.......... at which point i thought he was going to explode ..............  woodley has some great lines......

Am I missing the point here Nick?

If we have AA & Mr Numpty has Q-7, surely we are delighted at his appalling call 7 or 8 times out of 10, yes?

So I don't thnik we ought to complain when he hits twice or thrice in 10!

We can't have our cake AND eat it. We WANT bad calls. But sometimes they hit. But over time, we want them to call with their trash.

[Royal Flush]

i have reallly started something here .........
firstly dingdellyou took me out at the fitzwilliam after the ept final table, i offer no excuse for playin 35 92 93 and reraising those oirish guys ....  it was all planned to pass my chips to you......  your a decent player unlik the lady who shall remain nameless ...  even though flushy named her lol


right ..........  last night colchester kev was watching over my shoulder .......... he watched one guy calll bets on every street with ace high on both occasions he was against 88 .. on both occasions there was a k on board  he hit the ace on the river twice.................

but the worst one was ben from brum who had 3 limpers into his aa he potted it and got one caller who ha q7 he potted it ben repotted and the board was qt2k7.

me and woodley gave him the bird..........   he then tok me in a hand were we both hit trip 444 he then said........... there you go , i just play poker whilst you 2 can only talk about it........................  so funny the response was ,,,,, the good thing about giving chips to you is they wont be with you long.......... at which point i thought he was going to explode ..............  woodley has some great lines......

Am I missing the point here Nick?

If we have AA & Mr Numpty has Q-7, surely we are delighted at his appalling call 7 or 8 times out of 10, yes?

So I don't thnik we ought to complain when he hits twice or thrice in 10!

We can't have our cake AND eat it. We WANT bad calls. But sometimes they hit. But over time, we want them to call with their trash.

I think the point Nick is making is that he does NOT want these calls.

Bizzare but true!

[I KNOW IT]

All I can possibly think of for you feeling like this Nick,is you must be having a bad run of form.
When things turn round you will be welcoming these players with open arms.
Please stop telling them how bad they are, you might scare them away for ever.

[Colchester Kev]

Also do you want these calls in a festival event where when they hit , thats it ...goodnight vienna.

Online you want them every time because when they do hit, you can join another game or re load and stack them ... at a festival event its more frustrating because you have paid all your expenses etc... only to have to face the long drive home mulling over a donk knocking you out of a comp.


One more thing that occurred to me last night while watching Nicks table was that Nick was playing and raising an awful lot of pots and I cant help thinking that his style of play loosens up a table greatly, So maybe ...just maybe .. its all your own fault Nick

[tikay]

i have reallly started something here .........
firstly dingdellyou took me out at the fitzwilliam after the ept final table, i offer no excuse for playin 35 92 93 and reraising those oirish guys ....  it was all planned to pass my chips to you......  your a decent player unlik the lady who shall remain nameless ...  even though flushy named her lol


right ..........  last night colchester kev was watching over my shoulder .......... he watched one guy calll bets on every street with ace high on both occasions he was against 88 .. on both occasions there was a k on board  he hit the ace on the river twice.................

but the worst one was ben from brum who had 3 limpers into his aa he potted it and got one caller who ha q7 he potted it ben repotted and the board was qt2k7.

me and woodley gave him the bird..........   he then tok me in a hand were we both hit trip 444 he then said........... there you go , i just play poker whilst you 2 can only talk about it........................  so funny the response was ,,,,, the good thing about giving chips to you is they wont be with you long.......... at which point i thought he was going to explode ..............  woodley has some great lines......

Am I missing the point here Nick?

If we have AA & Mr Numpty has Q-7, surely we are delighted at his appalling call 7 or 8 times out of 10, yes?

So I don't thnik we ought to complain when he hits twice or thrice in 10!

We can't have our cake AND eat it. We WANT bad calls. But sometimes they hit. But over time, we want them to call with their trash.

I think the point Nick is making is that he does NOT want these calls.

Bizzare but true!

I think I've been whooshed. If we have the Aces, & we don't want a call from Q-7, what hands DO we want to call us?