what an idiot

[Cf]

You could offer me £60,000 a year to teach in the secondary school I went to and I'd probably turn it down. The amount of abuse teachers have to put up with is just ridiculous.

[Acidmouse]

You could offer me £60,000 a year to teach in the secondary school I went to and I'd probably turn it down. The amount of abuse teachers have to put up with is just ridiculous.

lol true, i used to teach at Thomas Danby college, where most of the students were from chapletown lol, if you showed weakeness you was gonna get pwned so bad. My tactic was to take them aside alone and threaten them my classes went well after that!

I remember  at uni once if you spoke in a lecture you got shoe thrown at you, aka boyle 1998

[bolt pp]

exactly the same thing happends when someone gets pissed of with a baby cia, "the red mist comes down" and they "flip out" and shake the baby to death or throw it across the room, no one says "ah well the red mist came down, they just lost it, it happends", everyone calls them disgusting child killers, why is this different?

Babies don't know the difference between right & wrong, they don't cry to provoke a reaction, they don't cry to be malicious, they just cry instinctively with no thought and no concept of consequence. On the other hand a teenager knows tormenting another person will make that person feel bad, the insults are designed to provoke a response, there is malice in it. So it's very different. Somebody reacting negatively to the innocence of a baby's cry isn't near somebody reacting negatively to conscious & orchestrated malice from a young adult.

If you go to baby sit a baby you know it's going to cry, if you're going to be a teacher you know the kids are going to be kids, malicious, arseholes, whatever you want to call them, you're in a position of responsibility for a child, you're supposed to be impervious to provocation, sort of comes with the gig when you're looking after minors in any capacity.

I'm saying the point is it doesnt matter, you're saying then that if the provecation is intentional it matters? from which you can infer that a crying baby doesnt deserve it because it doesnt mean to be irritating but a schoolboy who clearly means to be irritating deserves to get his head bashed in, i dont see how whatever this kid done short of putting the teacher in immediate fear for his life has any applicability to the outcome.

the way i see it everyone who is banging on about how this kid deserved it, how it's not the teachers fault, how he had it coming, how he provoked him etc are just scared, scared of the hoodies down the road from them, scared of chavs in the highstreet, scared by watching the news and seeing teenage knife crime, scared of reading about gangs, probably scared of their own shadow so when something like this happends they make their judgments about it based on their own fear, a manifestation of their own insecurities and take solace in the idea that one of "these" or "them" has finally got a taste of their own medicine, pathetic really, pathetic that people can be that terrified in their own life that theyre happy to let a 49 year old man batter a child to near death to lament their own vicarious retrebution,sad.

[Acidmouse]

Erm no one is saying the teacher was right to clobber unruly, naughty, misbehaving teenagers, but you have to recognise that there are factors around the incident that means its understandable it happened.

Rightly or wrongly you can see both sides of the argument. Making frankly absurd comparisons between baby sitting and teenagers systematically winding up teachers that SHOULD know better is illogical.

The system gives way to much protection to the students these days, teachers feel vunerable and exposed. Often threats, abuse, physical attacks take place across the country and the action taken against the young adults is zilch, yeah your expelled, woop de woo. Hopefully if anything postive can come out of this is that teachers can snap when mentally abused every working day of their lifes, they are human.





 

[cia260895]

Like acid said i don't think any1 is condoning what happened but rather that it is understandable due to the circumstances why it happened

definitely not acceptable though

[MANTIS01]

The strength of the reaction was inappropriate, agreed. However, the kid is in actual fact the bully here....so he is the scared/insecure one in reality. You tend to find with bullies that when they're in groups they give it large...but lose their balls when they don't have their friends around. In the classroom the kid can emotionally abuse his teacher in apparent safety...surrounded by his friends and protected by his status as the minor...but he's still a bully, and he's using this protection to vilify another person. The age smudges that vilification so you think teenagers aren't responsible for their actions and don't know what they're saying. I respect kids more than to say that. So I think the kid prob deserves a slap, but that's it, and not from teach.

[Steve Swift]

Yesterday, a student refused to get out of a free  standing staionery cupboard, when the lecturer knocked it to get his attention, the told the lecturer that he had hurt his ears with the sound and that he better not do do again "you fucking idiot".  When the lecturer continued to take control of the sitation, the student stormed out kicked a metal locker and threw a chair across the room.  He went home, mum rang in to say he was a little tense and wouldn't be in the next day.  Reports filed i will update when i have the results.

Interestingly enough, this student had recently come back from 2 trips, given to him as confidence boosters. 5 days ai Eurodisney, and last week just back from 6 days ai Dubai visit, during which he was given £30 a day sending money.  MBN


Today:
A student late to my lesson today, i of course challanged him he called my a sarky  bastard and why do i always go on and that i should Fuck off. I give him a verbal bashing as only i can and he then worked nicely for the next 2 hrs.

Just another day in the office.

Steve

[bolt pp]

what are the points of these stories?

[trafficjam]

Yesterday, a student refused to get out of a free  standing staionery cupboard, when the lecturer knocked it to get his attention, the told the lecturer that he had hurt his ears with the sound and that he better not do do again "you fucking idiot".  When the lecturer continued to take control of the sitation, the student stormed out kicked a metal locker and threw a chair across the room.  He went home, mum rang in to say he was a little tense and wouldn't be in the next day.  Reports filed i will update when i have the results.

Interestingly enough, this student had recently come back from 2 trips, given to him as confidence boosters. 5 days ai Eurodisney, and last week just back from 6 days ai Dubai visit, during which he was given £30 a day sending money.  MBN


Today:
A student late to my lesson today, i of course challanged him he called my a sarky  bastard and why do i always go on and that i should Fuck off. I give him a verbal bashing as only i can and he then worked nicely for the next 2 hrs.

Just another day in the office.

Steve

I cannot believe this - what is wrong with this country!  Our taxes are paying to make this country soft!

There is no respect in this world.  To be honest I feel a bit of compassion for that teacher as he had been very ill and most probably went back to work too soon.  He most probably flipped, I don't condone what he did but can fully understand it.

I do not agree with cameras everywhere, but in the classrooms and all through schools, this way it does not only safeguard the children's rights but also the staff.  I think this would also bring about more discipline in the schools and save money on soft-soaping kids on free trips and goodies!

[Steve Swift]

what are the points of these stories?

I responded to Blondie, i think it was, who indicated an interest..   Not stories, real life.


Steve

[Steve Swift]

Diary of a teacher...(in a non-porn sort of way)....interesting...go on then Steve!

Boldie, sorry sir.

[bolt pp]

what are the points of these stories?

I responded to Blondie, i think it was, who indicated an interest..   Not stories, real life.


Steve

you can assume i understood that they happend.

Are you a teacher? I really hope not, what chance have the kids got with a reactionary like you in charge.

[Swordpoker]

I do not agree with cameras everywhere, but in the classrooms and all through schools, this way it does not only safeguard the children's rights but also the staff.  I think this would also bring about more discipline in the schools and save money on soft-soaping kids on free trips and goodies!

Nooooooo! No more cameras, please! We need society to change attitudes. Lose the law suit culture. Bring back respect, and a strong sense of community.

[AndrewT]

I do not agree with cameras everywhere, but in the classrooms and all through schools, this way it does not only safeguard the children's rights but also the staff.  I think this would also bring about more discipline in the schools and save money on soft-soaping kids on free trips and goodies!

Nooooooo! No more cameras, please! We need society to change attitudes. Lose the law suit culture. Bring back respect, and a strong sense of community.

Cameras are a very good idea.

Not only will they help protect kids from teachers and teachers from kids but selling the funny clips to You've Been Framed would provide an additional revenue stream.

[bolt pp]

I do not agree with cameras everywhere, but in the classrooms and all through schools, this way it does not only safeguard the children's rights but also the staff.  I think this would also bring about more discipline in the schools and save money on soft-soaping kids on free trips and goodies!

Nooooooo! No more cameras, please! We need society to change attitudes. Lose the law suit culture. Bring back respect, and a strong sense of community.

never happen

as a society we're to far gone, at least the jocks have still got a sense of national pride, MBN, whats England got?  millionare rapist footballers, facebook, Jordan and peter and bigbrother, that sums up the country, why have we immersed ourself in disposable celebrity culture? because we're not allowed to celebrate English culture or heritage because it's racist obv.

I kinda agree with all the old folk when they say we need a war to sort this country out but were so far gone can you imagine the internet generation shipping off to take down north korea if ding dong started to kick off, we'd get ruined.