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6/4 odds on a Scotland win seems too good to turn down. What do u all think ?

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if you say so!!

I think its too skinny, but hope they win

Scotland have a good away record recently after convincing wins at Norway and Slovenia

yes, things are improving

C'mon Scotland

Atmosphere on Saturday was great.
Halftime especially. All together now  'you take the high road...'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRbtQL7liyk


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I'd rather be a layer than a backer at 6/4

2/1 should be minimum price, esp after the italy result at weekend

Yep Lithuanians are no mugs, if Scotland win over there it will be a very good result.

Indeed they finnished 2nd in the SPL last year.

Sorry I mean Hearts - well big Vlad has enough of his compatriots over here anyway.   :D

Lithuana just drew with Italy - can't believe you are writing them off against Scotland.

Even the World Cup holders can't beat them at the moment ;)

So if Scotland are lucky enough to beat Lithuania does that make them world champions by default? ???

i usually go on the side of history..after every decent result there has to be some air let out the national side....so i`m fairly sure that we dont have the beating of lithuania...

i would be looking for a bigger price than 6/4...if scotland keep any sort of form then a draw would be a best result..

Yep - for the second time!! (England v Scotland - Wembley 1967 being the other).  :D

Believe me lads this is an absolute banker. I guarantee a Scotland win. The Lithuania result in Italy was a freak result. It was Italy's 1st game in front of there fans since the world cup, there was a real party atmosphere and the Italians took there eye off the ball. Scotland are in great form and are now becoming a force in international football yet again under the guidance of the great Walter Smith.

One of the comments on You Tube: "Pride of Scotland absolutely brilliant its looking good for the future I haven't felt this good since Archie Gemmell Scored against Holland in 1978"

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i`ll have a pint of what your on....a force in internatrional football...i hope your tongue is in yer cheek there ... ;D

You ever heard of Ally McLeod?? :D :D :D :D

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2 of what you're drinking please!! Not that good, a 6-0 against the Faroes should be within the capabilities of the top Junior sides in Scotland. A draw wouldn't be a bad result.

Didnt we have someone else who used to give us guaranteed bankers?

Wonder what he's upto nowadays!!  :D

Until i see some decent performances against better opposition i'll keep my money for more obvious 6/4 shots......

LOL this is the funniest post ive ever heard

The great who....walter smith? are you serious

open your eyes mate, Scotland are pish!

Can't be that bad m8. We drew with the world champions Italy at Hampden and we also had excellent away wins at Norway and Slovenia so there has been a definate turn around and for u to say we're pish shows u obviously don't watch Scotland games or u just know nothing about football.

I like optimism. More power to William, King of half full glasses.  :)up

We're going tae pump those lanky Lithuanians. In the meantime Ukraine and the WC finalists can take a number.

If you don't count the actual first game vs Croatia.....

   

       

        Are you Chick Young by any chance?

aw come on...selective memory...what was the home result against norway...and slovenia....did we not draw with them at home, we also got beaten against austria at hampden...

and here is our last few results

Scotland 5 - 1 Bulgaria
Thursday May 11 2006 11:15
Scotland 1 - 3 Switzerland
Wednesday Mar 01 2006 08:00
Scotland 1 - 1 United States
Saturday Nov 12 2005 04:00
Scotland 0 - 1 Belarus
Saturday Oct 08 2005 03:00
Scotland 1 - 1 Italy


since when did we celebrate draws at home..

if you reckon we are progressing how many points will we take against ukraine, france and italy..and then see what the bookies say
 

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you may as well quit just now Mr. Orange, your making yourself look worse with every post.

Have you seen a Scotland game lately? Wake up.

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    Looks a good bet now. Nice one william.

it has turned out a decent bet for willie- it was not a good vallue bet and away from home there are a lot better bets.

that aside congrats scotland on beating lithuania

i stand by the point it makes us nothing more than a minnow in an aquariam of sharks.

lithuania ranked 65th
faroes rank rotten
italy ranked 2
france ranked 4
ukraine ranked 15th

scotland are ranked 40th...we wont be at the finals and i would hesitate to say we can take more than 4 points from the class teams...if we get anything away from them then i may start to take scotland seriously....

until then we are still dross...unless the definition of " a force in world football" has changed

please feel free to cast this up should i be in error ;D

   



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I'm surprised you guys arn#t more upbeat about Scotland in this campaign.

Didn't Walter Smith used to manage Celtic?  ;goodvevil;

tank...pit that spoon down....wattie has never bothered me , besides tam burns is really running the show ;)...i just dont get the scotland wahey guff...in a poker sense we are fish ...and even fish have to get lucky

Ok, spoon is down. Apologies fir that comment.

I just love to love my national side. I don't see realism as having any place on the terraces.

A journey of a thousand miles begins with, well 6 points.

Yes, we're probably gonna get humped by the big boys, but I'm hoping we put in a good showing, cover the spread.

Plus in my heart, I still believe. ::)

i hate youre name mate, but i bow ;tightend; to youre football knowledge  :cheers:

A bit selective there yourself patman  ;), and the results at home v Norway and Slovenia were under the old regime.

I don't think you can deny the fact we are progressing, we have no chance of qualifying from the group but then we do have the world cup finalists in there.  We are at least competitive and capable of beating the dross which was beyond us in the past few years.

In my experience, Scotland have always performed best when everyone writes their chances off as non-existant.

There's no easy way to get in the history books, but the pages have got be filled by someone.  ;cheerleader;

Great result guys ;applause; ;applause; ;applause;

i dont mind nostalgia or even positivity(and i kinda admire tanks enthusiasm, but heck hes a dandy don :D).
....bazza i just did a random selection thats why i included the bulgaria on holiday kirin cup team...just to show the results over a period
but we have beaten nobody of any significance at all in a competetive game since when?? any takers

norway dont count for me...so i am lost as to resurgance of scotland....where is it...berti vogts was dire  admitted.

but under wattie(a journeyman manager) we are now just organised dross....no more no less.

i would love a great national side but i am not prepared to spout tosh about us being any good or resurgant..i cant celebrate mediocrity...not when you are reared on success domestically

i` am positive in the sense that i am realisitc :D

2 years ago play off for euro championship we beat holland 1 -0 nil at hampden

only real quaitly team we have played since if you dont count norway is italy and we nearly did them at hampden

we can only beat whats put in front of us

more power to walter and his motely crew

Any team would struggle to beat Norway away so that was a fantastic result as was the win at Slovenia and the excellent draw against Italy a game which we deserved to win. Great to see the way the team is playing now it's been a fantastic turnaround since Berti's departure and it's all down to 1 man WALTER SMITH who in my opinion will go on to become the the greatest Scotland manager ever.

The 11 on the park probably deserve the first round of lollypops to be fair.

As much as I'd love to, I'm finding it a little harder to agree with you.

It's these same players who were so awfull under Berti m8 so clearly it's all down to the tactical genius Walter Smith.

Post hoc ergo procter hoc.

I suspect a Trainspotting fan with a sense of humour.

Nice to see Kenny Miller found his shooting boots again. :)

tactical genius is maybe taking it a bit too far.

would you say that Wattie has more tactical nous that Bertie Vogts, world cup winner?

I would doubt it. what wattie has done is to return the players to their comfort zone. BV attempted to get the team to play outwith their technical capabilities, and systems that they didnt understand.

When wattie came in, he reverted to more tried and tested methods. He has done well to give the players back their self belief, and seems to have a decent harmony about the squad, for which he should be applauded.

But where is the tactical "genius" in playing 4-4-2, or 4-5-1. Hardly ground breaking stuff is it

I suspect you are "at it" ;)


ps - I for one am delighted in the scottish performances.

1st of all Berti has never won the world cup as manager and secondly Walter is a tactical genius he proved it with Rangers and he is now proving it with scotland. The proof's in the pudding m8 just look at his record.

Our fast flowing football tonight was a joy to watch. If we can get Barry back to full fitness then i guarantee we'll beat the frogs at Hampden and when King William makes a guarantee it always comes through. I will have a dead cert accumulator this weekend so stay tuned folks.

youre just being silly now, spoiled the earlier good work, shame

Just getting my points across m8 no need to be nasty

Just a bit of teasing Mr. King.

To be expected when you get your points across in an enthusiastic manner such as you do. ;)

No nastiness intended I'm sure.

it's King William thanks Tank

It's 'thetank' ;)

actually SUNSHINE the tank prefers to be called Tank

actually mr william , no flops prefers to be called floppsy

Booder u will adress me as King William or not at all. Thank You

Actually Colonel Booder, it's "Duke Floppsy". ;)

Much as I'm glad that Wattie has greatly improved Scotland's fortunes, he does seem to have an unusual touch.

He's making a fairly average bunch of Scotland players look pretty decent. Yet with all  Murray's millions he couldn't do anything  in Europe with Rangers, and he managed to make two World Cup winners look like very average  players - Gattuso at Rangers and Matterazzi at Everton.

Long may his success with Scotland continue.

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Colonel Booder

I think you'll find Walter Smith's Rangers side had the furthest European run of a Scottish side in the last 20 years coming within 1 match of the champions league final also knocking out the English champions along the way and by the way Gattuso was excellent for Rangers he was signed as an 19 year old with potential and Walter turned him into a top quality 1st team player.He was signed on a free transfer and was soled 18 months later for £3.5 million not a bad piece of business i think you'll agree.

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When there were two groups of four as I recall. I also seem to recall Scott Nisbet scoring one of the most fortuitous goals ever seen, in a game Rangers were losing 2-0 at Ibrox?


If you call playing like an Italian Terry Hurlock as 'top quality' we can agree to differ on that one.  I also recall the good business was something to do with the way Rangers poached him using a loophole in the amateur regulations, thus causing a protest from the Italian authorities about Dodgy Dave's dealings? (Ironic I know!)

The year Rangers almost won the champions league it was down to the last 8 and Rangers finished 2nd in there group unbeaten for the whole tournament. That IS the furthest a Scots team has gone in Europe in the last 20 years. FACT

And what the hell has Scott Nisbetts goal got to do with anything ? just for the record it was 0 - 0 when he scored the winner

as u say ' PLAYING LIKE TERRY HURLOCK ' has taken Gattuso to a champions league winners medal and a world cup winners medal  not bad eh

Saw the goals tonight and the first looked like handball, anyone see it from another angle?

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tank......i would like to meet you , you seem like a great guy  ...please introduce yourself to me at bb3


floppsy.............31 cents

OY FLOPPYJALOPPY !

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so Celtic never got to a European final in 2003?

FACT!!!!!!!!!!  A FINAL IS CLOSER TO WINNING SOMETHING THAN NO FINAL AT ALL.

Can we make it 24 years?  8)

Oooh, oooh, oooh the dandy Dons.  ;cheerleader;

Do you think a str8 beats a flush!?

Thank you for accepting my point. Playing for Wattie, Gattuso played like an Italian Terry Hurlock.

Playing for better managers made him a World Cup and CL winner. Which is precisely what I said in my first post.

You log of early and what happens....wibble wibble

tankie - i admired the dandy dons when they played under fergie...hard as nails and good players

ironsides - a reasonable point that we beat holland which was a great home result 2 years ago....what was the result in the 2nd leg...we got murdellated...so kinda took the shine of it. nearly aginst italy disnae count..but fair play on the holland game . as for only beating what is put in front of us for the most part we havent
- laz point on wattie stabilising the team is also fair but all that does is mean we are organised dross.

Jester willie - aw come off it , at least be balanced  - a few crazy points. when talking about rangers be accurate or at the least take the blinkers off...you and i both know who has gotten the furthest in europe in the last 20 years and the clue is it isnae rangers.
For the record aberdeen were ther last team to win a european tournament - big up them
rangers nearly getting to a european final....i nearly won the lotto ..got a tenner..
As for wattie personally no point in going into his record  - he is what he is ..which in my humble opinion a journeyman manager who excelled in scotland against a bankrupt celtic team being run into the ground...he did ok with the vast resources he had - he should have done better.


As for scotland - I personally would love to see a successfull scotland team...it would be fantastic. I enjoy when they win, more so if i have a few bob on it

but i will not listen to mad rambling about forces in international football and genius managers...that way lies madness :D

No World Cup - just Euro 96... not a bad achievement. as for Smith being a genius - I don't think so - he's a good solid old school manager & did well for a spell at Rangers, badly with Everton & has done well with Scotland - he's got us playing as a team again - but nothing he's done screams genius at me.

Walter Smith deserves credit for putting the ship back on course and the disaster of Bertie Vogts.
He seems to have got the team playing with a bit of confidence. Saying that, Scotland are in a very tough group with France, Italy and Ukraine.  They have got off to a good start, but have beaten two of the weaker teams in the group.
I think Scotland will end up battling for 3rd place with Ukraine.

Legend!

I can't understand why anyone would take anything KB says seriously, hes just at the wind up.

If you stop responding to his baiting he'll soon get bored.

when i`m at work i enjoy a good cut and thrust on line ...you even get a wee gem of classic guff flung out now and then...keeps me sane ...i have chuckled a few times on this thread.. :D

The transition from pailing mediocrity to serious contenders is never going to be instantaneous.

It's going to be an arduous journey, we may go past kinda allright, take a step back to underachieving, then move on to that side it's slightly scary to play against before we're finally taken seriously on the international stage.

Anyway my point is, what's wrong with having a journeyman manager for this journey?

(Or have I misunderstood the term journeyman  :dontask: )

Ah tank you misunderstand me, to clarify
to me a journeyman manager is someone who is ok messing about organising a team and getting the basics right

i.e 4-4-2 left back at left back right back at right back etc..and can organise a team.

the difference between that and a class manager is someone who can intuatively pick holes in the opposition and mould his team to beat them.
that and the ability to develop players and coach them into playing and performing above their level.

i may be being misunderstood but what i believe is that we have neither a good team nor a "class manager" so i dont think we will "develop" or  become contenders...our society and the way we now breed our kids precludes that.

I have no particular gripe with the manager wattie as he`s doing ok with what we are and have...i do have a gripe with praise being liberally dispensed on the back of beating palpably weak teams and this being dressed up as progress..
talk of him developing into "scotlands greatest manager" is also  nuttier than a squirrel supermarket.

progress for me is taking something of quality teams on a regular basis...which wont happen not even overnight or in the medium term.
it is no suprise that we havent qualified for a major tournament for some years  - a position i do not see changing.

success or progress for me is not defined as being no longer beaten by the diddy teams..it is being considered a real threat.

a secret poll of managers if asked "scotland will be in your group how do you feel" would get the answer "great" that`ll be 4 - 6 points...when that changes ...or when i see it becoming even a remote possibility then i will shout fae the rooftops

a phrase used is "we want to be travelling in world football and bring back more than pen pals"

as BA Robertson said " i have a dream"....but this lot wont fulfil it

Thought I was missing summit.

Can I just say.... this thread rawwkkksssss. 8)

ScottishBandit if u read my post properly u will see i was purely stating the facts. Rangers European champions league run in 1993 is the furthest any Scots team has been in Europe in the last 20 years. THIS IS NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION IT IS A FACT and for u to bring up this 'final' in 2003 is a joke. Rangers achievement last season in becoming the 1st Scots team to reach the last 16 is going further in Europe than ur uefa final another FACT.

troll alarm is deafening.

Patman get ur facts right before u come on here and spout ur crap. Calling Walter Smith a journeyman is a load of rubbish. He has managed 2 clubs so how on earth can u call him that ? Also how can u say Walter done ok at Rangers the guy is a legend at the club after winning numerous trophies and leading us to 9 in a row. Taking Rangers to within 1 game of the Champions League final was an incredible achievement and not one the Rangers fans will forget. Also he had to put up with the 3 foreigners rule so u can imagine how difficult it would have been having to mainly shop in the Scottish market.

Fairly pointless arguement, since the section of time, for some reason, stops just shy of the year Aberdeen won... And speaking as a fan of a club who haven't won bugger all in europe in 35 years, I'm well placed to comment. :D

Rod Paradise u say Walter only done well in spells for Rangers ? He done incredibly well during the whole spell and as for Everton he joined them at a time when the club were in financial dissaray and were battling relegation year after year. Walter was promised money before he sighned the contract but it never evaporated. He definetly steadied the ship during his time signing some real gems like Gravesen and Dacourt and bringing through Jeffers. He had to also put up with the board selling his best players behind his back like Ferguson and Dacourt. One of the real reasons Everton r in a good financial footing today is down to Walter.

Our incredible Champions League runs last year and 1993 is going further in Europe than Aberdeens in the 80's FACT

Everyone, I am handling this.

Please don't get involved.


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Dear Fellow Blondies ,
                              It has been pointed out to me that i may have used some bad language in one of my previous posts and for this i must offer an apology. It was totally unnaceptable and i am ashamed. This was totally out of character and will not happen again.



         Yours sincerely

          King William
           

I or a fellow moderator seems to say this time and time again


We do not care who any of you support or what any of your personal views are if expressed sensibly but if you (everyone) cannot debate without resorting to any of flaming/sectarian comments/winding up people for the sake of it then we are going to delete/warn/ban etc as appropriate

Its taking up too much of our time and is a real turn off for other posters.

Go to other forums if you needs to relieve your tensions please!

 

Tight End tell me a bit about yourself young chap. I want to get to know the real you.

Well said Tighty. Remind me to buy you a creme de menthe at the weekend. Thats the pope's favourite drink you know.... :cheers:

hee haw hanky Tanky ? we made £16million m8

Very True...Pity Mr Murray pocketed the lot!!

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pmsl good one m8 Mr Murray only cleared £50 million of our debt

Which was only right as he created it in the first place  :D

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Won't hear me complaining after the success the great man's brought to this club.

Oh come on big chap there's no hatred or nastiness in this discussion. We have heavily toned things down.

I think the good Kaiser Wilheim means we have heavily toned things down - FACT  :D

Every time you say "fact", I read "in my humble opinion"

It makes you appear much more palatable  ;)