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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/?id=louis_theroux

Sunday 9pm BBc2

I have enjoyed his earlier programmes, I like his deliberate and tongue in cheek innocence to encourage his subjects into opening up


This one should be good, heaven knows what characters he will find sitting on the slots for day after day...

Thanks TightEnd, sounds interesting.

He calls them the Slot Zombies i think

Looks good, love the clip with the slot addicted granny who says:

"I,ve lost $4 million dollars in the last seven years ... but I've enjoyed every moment of it"

 rotflmfao

There will be plenty of grannies saying that in 7 years time after the supercasino goes up here!

but I'm sure he asks her if she'll run out of money - she pauses for a short while (presumably assessing her life expectancy) and says "No"

Yeh I lilke Louis theroux. I always thought his approach was to come across a bit of a likeable idiot so people feel comfortable and not manipulated, whilst he's actually sharper than he llets on.

Incidentally my mate is the absolute spit of louis, so much so he gets stopped in the street and asked for his autograph.

Looks good, both of the clips were amusing.

Aye looking forward to this last Sunday was clips from his last series, very entertaining.

What are the odds he'll 'bump into' Jean Scott, the 'coupon queen' (and author of 'The Frugal Gambler') who seems to be the old granny that always features in these types of programme?

I watched this and all i can say is Louis looked rightfully scared when the Orange County skinheads/nazis/white supremists (delete as appropriate) asked for the camera to be turned off. All the time he was there he refused to say wether or not he was Jewish and this seemed to wind up his host's.
My impression of Louis like others here is a slightly comical but very intelligent man who has a very good way of getting under peoples skin if he wants to. Also very brave, he had Christina Hamilton almost slobbering over him, that was probably more intimidating than the encouter with the skinheads.

lol that made me laugh, you cannot get a more jewish looking chap than Louis!

Cheers Tighty,

Missed this completely, I thought his first series was a classic.
The porn industry one was funny, I seem to recall one agent said he could work for him if he wanted lol.
Though the straight guy doing gay porn was weird, but hilarious when Louis was trying to help him rehearse his lines on the way there.
Second series was both great and awful, I actually thought Paul Daniels came out of it very well. After watching it my opinion of them changed completely to that of...actually, they're just a sweet couple.
Though Saville was confirmed as somewhat "eccentric".

Lol, yes I think 'eccentric' is possibly an understatement. I know a few things about Ol' Jimmy that would suprise you..and possible turn your stomach lol..Wouldn't be right to air them on here though. :-X

I really should start using the 'Spell Check' facility....

Ah yes - always happy to help out hospitals is Sir Jangle Jangle, always happy. Of course, hospitals aren't able to help everyone, some people sadly don't make it. Such a shame. Such a shame that people die. Dead people are no use to anyone are they?

Maybe to necrophyliacs they have some use!  ;whistle;

Lol..Sicko!

What! im not the one who goes round doing it.................................anymore!!

You spend a few minutes wording a post so that it is just right - hinting at things, leaving clues for the reader to put together, but not enough to arouse the interests of lawyers.

Then KingPoker comes along with his subtlety hammer...

AndrewT....does this have to be modded then? just off to check the directors indemnity policy for libel....

lol

Its like being in the A Team again, being accused of a crime i didnt commit!

i wish, unlike B A Baracus, that you would go on that plane....

He runs round roundhay park and ring road daily, does your story involve the woods around there? :P

would be just as easy to drug me tho....my one weakness is i do like milk!

STOP!


He's a blondeite.....as is Dave Lee Travis, and Simon Bates


I could tell you some Simon Bates stories....

He's not norman bates's bro is he??

Now then, Now then Acid....
 No..but you're on the right lines (sort of)...I'll tell you next time I see you at Moortown.

Just say what it is about but put 'apaarently' at the start which indicates it came from another source!

Hehe got me thinking now, I guess it can wait :)

My favourite type of post...promising of shocking revelations etc...but shouldn't write it here...AAARRGH.
Why not waft beer under my nose and then give me water?

I love on the clip A winning streak where that guy has lost 24k in 24 hours and Louis says "maybe you should cut your losses"

The guy looks at him disgusted that he could make such a comment and says "Im not a quitter, im not a quitter"

Bump just a reminder this starts in 10 minutes.

Thanks for reminder! Should be interesting.

$25,000 down i'm not a quitter.
He didn't look much happier for chasing it either.

Its actually quite sad.

anyone see theroux chirping after he made $200 BUX, get it quietly louie

Good program. We kinda saw all the best  bits in the trailers though.

Fascinating documentary.

The key is to avoid the trailers.  ;)

interesting, but not one his better documentaries. He never really got under the skin of any of the people he interviewed or spent time with. He's at his best when he really pisses people off, when they don't really know what to make of him.

I think being allowed to film on the casino premises was limiting him to what he could show.

Reading between the lines though:

If you are rich and play roulette/craps/baccarat - casino will assign you a person who will 'look after you' - meaning- will make you feel special so you can blow xxxxx K on fruit machines and other crap games, not only that, but this guy will encourage you and stay with you for a whole night so u can lose more.  I bet that if you are winning a lot, the same guy will encourage you to stop and leave as the winner.

No secret they are called Casino Hosts. They just have to keep you at the table.

I don't play craps so I would not know it...I want their job if they are on commision.

Why would they want you to leave if you are winning?

If you have their money, I doubt they'd want you to leave. Winning streaks are just luck.

I think there was a hint of sarcasm in Tantrum's post

His Porn docu was repeated last night also 11:45pm BBC2 was alot better.

I watched it last night and was rather surprised at it.

I know what the tricks of the casino's are so that doesn't surprise me but that slot lady who blew 4mill in 7 years and lives in that shitty house (filled with boxes) just goes to show how hooked some people are. I also thought her son was in a sorry state, he'd obviously completely given up any hope of ever seeing any money as it was all going to be pissed away into the slot machines. I don't think he cared about her spending all "hish" inheritance but more about the sheer waste of it.

I did like the cranky fella and his mate...His mate lost but was happy enough about it and coped with it well but he himself is the typical tilt guy we all know and love at the poker table.

Overall not a bad program and definetly not one of those "all gambling is evil" things...

Cranky fella looked like he wanted to smack Louis in the mouth a couple of times but in the circumstances I thought he showed remarkable restrant.

"How much you lost?"
"$24K"
"But did you have a wonderful time?"

I loved the bits we he would be in the lift and asking anyone who came in "are you up or down?" I think only one said he was up and even the most amateurish poker player could have sensed weakness in his answer lol! That IT consultant at the end was a proper gambler he knew what he was doing. That mattress king from canada didnt even have a system when he was betting 5000 dollars a spin on rollette and his sleazy so called "friend" leting him go down 250,000! Only the ppl over the pond would have a friend who tries to bleed you dry and still love him!!

I found it interesting that the guy who lost $250K seemed to be clued up that there was more chance of losing than winning. And not having a system for the roulette also reflected that.

And the woman who has lost $4m on the fruit machines knew there was no skill to it and even seemed open to the strong possibility that she might lose everything. I found it particularly funny when, shortly after the 'losing $4m" discussion, she got really excited and said "Look! I've won a hundred dollars"

The saddest thing was she had a memorial service for her husband at the casino....

would anyone actually have liked to stay in that suite they gave the mattress king? I fucking hate places that look like that. Just give me a nice open plan modern room like the it consultant had.... but what a f****** view of the strip. Man i have just got to get out there soon!!!!!!!!!!

I saw it and thought 'holy crap', how much does that cost a night, english butler, the works. Then you see how much the guy blows. At least $300K? And they were fighting over a $3-4K free shopping card?
And just how much do you make by being 'Canada's mattress king?'
As usual I found Theroux very entertaining, but the program made me almost feel ill. The casino staff were scary. Theroux's very good-natured but he smelt blood and went right in for the kill. 'I'm just a marketing guy'. 'Are you his friend?' 'Yes, I'm his friend'. 'Would you tell him to stop?'
The big loser of the young duo was hilarious: 'When you start winning you gotta bet higher and higher.' He really believed he was on a streak. Looks like he lost a life-changing sum. Strange, since "Blackjack is not weighted in the house's favour.'
I loved the lift scenes too 'You winning or losing?' 'Losing'. 'Winning or losing?' 'Winning' You winning or losing?' 'I itAllyaan!' lol

the suite is 15k$ a night apparently..and VERY ugly...I hate places like that

Well, they're not all that bad. Stanley Casino in Glasgow have recently upgraded their suite for 'high rollers' like us:

lol

Would this have helped him?

lol no but at least have a system or some kind of bankroll management. It just annoys me that people still belive they can go in there and come out a winner. And its even worse when you can see them trying to get it back. Its obvious that people like him dont have millions of dollars to waste, he just likes coming down and being made to feel important. He thinks its all comped but 15K rrom x 3 nights and 3k credit card have all come out of his 300k!!!!! Why cant ppl f****** realise that its far from a free holiday! Idiots

They do realise, just these 'idiots' who are fantastically successful like to have a bit of fun. Him betting $5k might be like you betting £50

I know but there were little clues. Like his wife hated gambling. My missus doesnt think its the best thing in the world but as long as i see a profit she cant complain. It must only be the fact that he loses money he cant afford, that she detests it. He said himself he hides his gambling from her and come on, that is THE BIGGEST sign of a losing gambling addict! She wouldnt complain if he came home +300k! (or at least the initial 50k that he won but wouldnt quit!).

I don't agree - my man can afford to loose a lot (and I mean a lot) but on Sunday he lost £150 (nothing to him) on one hand in a cash game on line. Now even I, not the most clued up, could see he was behind but he bet into this guy and was called with the nuts and lost the money. To him £150 is nothing, and I know that but I hate waste for wastes sake (don't mention my slot addicition - that's different  ;whistle;) and I had a shout at him.

I'm sure that next time he'll hide it from me - even though he can easily afford it. 

But your husband doesnt have a addiction problem if he loses 150 quid and doesnt tell you because as you stated he has a huge bankroll. I think you would have a much bigger problem and give him a reason to hide it if he had lost 300,000 dollars. Plus the fact your hubby lost it on a poker table is already a huge difference between the game of roullette which is always stacked against you.

If you are a bad poker player (not saying Bern is, far from it infact) roulette is probably better than playing poker.

Right time to start playing roulette for me then.

Depends to an extent on how you play Roulette. Playing optimally, the odds are...pretty bad. Playing like he did, the odds are...really bad.
The gambling addict has to get a kick out of it, and this really only happens if he's putting money on the line that is significant to him. Do you really enjoy playing poker at $0.01-0.02 limit? It's no fun at all. By the look on his face at the end, he lost a sum that was significant to him. Whatever, I would still be concerned at having been taken for a mug by these guys. 'Sometimes you lose, other time's you'll win', he said as he was leaving. Overall, you will lose, and unless corrected a guy like that will end up losing his shirt. 'For me it's like a sport, other people play golf, I gamble.' Yeah right...

You can't play roulette skillfully.

The more you put on the board, the more edge the casino has. It doesn't matter where you put your bets.*

Unless you're playing at a table with an en prison rule

How will he lose his shirt? he is clearly very wealthy and its not like he lives in Vegas. He knows he will lose over time. If instead of gambling he spent his time buying yachts would that make it better? It's the same thing to him, a hobby is a hobby, i don't see the problem.

Its just i dont feel that the man we are debating here has an infinite source of funds to gamble with. They dont give the 15k a night suite to someone who breaks even in the end. He is a loser, addict, and in my opinion cannot afford to lose the amount that he did.

How do you know how much he is worth?

If he is worth $1bn then losing $250k is nothing.

This will never be resolved due to the fact we will not know just how much he is worth. I just have a hunch he was not crazily wealthy and that he was no the sort who could afford to lose 300k!

Can't they?

These fools no. Because these people cant walk away when they win. He said himself when he won 50g, he said i cant leave now ive only been here 20 minutes!

Well this guy was the biggest Matrass manufacturer in Canada..so I'm guessing he's got a few $ to spend.
300k is a lot of money to everybody (other then Bill gates and Chelski's Roman) but if he wants to spend it then why not?

The old lady at the slots who'd lost 4mill$ in 7 years and lived in that shitty gated community with her son...now she really couldn't afford it by the looks of things.

You're absolutely right, no skill. By 'optimally' I mean not betting lots of numbers. If you bet optimally, you're still going to lose over the long term. People can do what they like, me personally, I really hate it. The casinos depicted were happy to treat the guy like a king, and ply him with booze, even though they know that either:
-he is addicted to gambling and requires treatment and should be kept away from the casino
-he is operating on the assumption that over time somehow he can actually finish up

Far be it for me to take the high ground over gambling, I'm just saying it as I see it in this case: this man looked sick. Did you see the way he was ploughing big bills into the bandits?

I don't know how much he has, but I'm guessing it's not in the hundreds of millions. If it was, his wife wouldn't be so pissed about his gambling; he wouldn't appear so dazed at the end; he probably would be playing a decent game, not sitting in the corner pumping notes into a puggy; he wouldn't give a damn if their free shopping credit card was $3000 not the usual $4000. I would say this guy has about $5-10M at his disposal.
He believes he can do what he did repeatedly and finish roughly level or up. Thousands have gone before him and ended up losing the lot. He becomes addicted to the thrill, hits a low when the losses grow, then tries to chase it back with more extravagant wagers, and loses the lot. Might even *oops* lose his casino friend and suite in the process, there's a surprise.

on again tonight for all that missed it. 11.20 bbc2

can this be streamed online as well, might have to watch it that way through iPlayer

Reading this reminded me of a bizarre thing I saw in Vegas last month, a slots tournament at the Venetian.
An area was cordoned off and the competitors got half an hour to win as much as they could on their allocated slot machine.
White shorts, white t-shirt and white floppy hat seemed to be the costume of choice, along with a man bag in some cases (mainly the women).
Then it was...ready, steady, press that button over and over again as fast as you can. They got a ten-minute warning. I guess to hit the button even quicker.
Still more skill involved than for the home contingent in the deep stack tournaments though.

highly likely

[   ] the slot manager tommy isnt juiced in

[   ] his brother isnt county commisioner

[   ] he doesnt get winning players clipped

[ ] trigg hasnt watched too many movies

[  ] your wrong

"You cant leave now, you're winning, bet bigger!!"

haha, love it

No doubt everyone saw this?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/1926636/Newcastle-boss-Mike-Ashley-wins-andpound1.3m-on-roulette-spin.html

The headline figure looks big, but then if you bet £480,000 on one spin of the wheel....

He's made worse investments...

whats wrong with that

I'd love to see him do a poker documentry

and had a much bigger win when he found someone to buy his sports chav clothing shops warehouses jumble sales

''lost $24k''

''but did you have a wonderful time?''................................

''ok, now i'm gonna teach you....''

''teach me to loseeee?''

so fearlessss loll

I always wondered why he wore Alan Smith's shirt at matches (number 17)...surely he couldn't be his fave player lol