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Title: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on July 28, 2007, 12:41:38 PM it's on, get in.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Rooky9 on July 28, 2007, 12:52:23 PM can't wait!! But cant see anything on net about it?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on July 28, 2007, 12:58:05 PM http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6920484.stm
At least they're talking about it. Fight of the century? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on July 28, 2007, 03:42:49 PM fantastic. can't wait.
a lot of people say Hatton has no chance but I think he's make it a blood & guts war and will stiffle Mayweather. I'll be putting a pound or two on Hatton and expect to get decent odds. Go on Ricky Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on July 28, 2007, 03:59:27 PM fantastic. can't wait. a lot of people say Hatton has no chance but I think he's make it a blood & guts war and will stiffle Mayweather. I'll be putting a pound or two on Hatton and expect to get decent odds. Go on Ricky Amen. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on July 28, 2007, 11:22:01 PM Fair play to Hatton for taking this fight. I think he will be given a boxing lesson by Mayweather but have to give him credit for going after the best out there. Will be interesting to see how this one gets priced up.
Oh and the verbal sparring in the build up should be good :) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on July 28, 2007, 11:40:23 PM Fair play to Hatton for taking this fight. I think he will be given a boxing lesson by Mayweather but have to give him credit for going after the best out there. Will be interesting to see how this one gets priced up. Oh and the verbal sparring in the build up should be good :) don't forget he wasn't given a chance by most against tyszu. the man is a warrior, mayweather won't knock him out and hatton will do enough work to win on points. he will be in supreme condition to, god i am excited, what a fight!!! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on July 29, 2007, 12:00:58 AM Fair play to Hatton for taking this fight. I think he will be given a boxing lesson by Mayweather but have to give him credit for going after the best out there. Oh and the verbal sparring in the build up should be good :) I agree in bold, but I doubt there be any verbal sparring as Ricky usually just ignores the wind up mearchants. Cannae wait ;D Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on July 29, 2007, 09:49:53 AM yeah, ricky hatton has more class in his left buttock than mayweather and won't get involve in a battle of words. he'll smile, crack a gag or two and let mayweather work himself up into a froth then maul him in the ring.
win or lose, ricky hatton is the better man here Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on July 29, 2007, 01:16:00 PM Has everyone forgotten who Maywether is? This guy HAS beaten a LOT better than Hatton.
Like Adam says if Hatton puts in a blood and guts performance it could be a serious ruck but theres a danger that if it goes tactical it will turn into a show fight like the de la hoya fight. Why does Hatton hold so much at world class level? he never used to fight like that. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on July 29, 2007, 01:35:07 PM it's not so much holding as leaning on and crowding. it's done to interupt the other guys rhythm and set up short hooks. Matweather will find it hard to land straight punches on Hatton, who'll be pressing for 12 rounds. Biggest danger for me is the judges.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamG on July 29, 2007, 01:38:20 PM cmon u hatton..... best fight hes had of yet and i hope that it is an amazing 8 rounder (hatton killing him in 8th round ;) )
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on July 29, 2007, 02:58:03 PM Has everyone forgotten who Maywether is? This guy HAS beaten a LOT better than Hatton. Like Adam says if Hatton puts in a blood and guts performance it could be a serious ruck but theres a danger that if it goes tactical it will turn into a show fight like the de la hoya fight. Why does Hatton hold so much at world class level? he never used to fight like that. You talking about the holding in the last fight? Have a look at the fight again and see what Hatton's doing when they are up close and 'holding'. Very clever work going on there, far more than just grabbing on and waiting for the ref to split them up. Mayweather has fought some decent fighters, but who's he beaten who is A LOT better than Hatton? Baldomir? Corrales? Mitchell? Juuko? A past it Gatti or De La Hoya? :dontask: Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on July 29, 2007, 07:36:43 PM Has everyone forgotten who Maywether is? This guy HAS beaten a LOT better than Hatton. Like Adam says if Hatton puts in a blood and guts performance it could be a serious ruck but theres a danger that if it goes tactical it will turn into a show fight like the de la hoya fight. Why does Hatton hold so much at world class level? he never used to fight like that. You talking about the holding in the last fight? Have a look at the fight again and see what Hatton's doing when they are up close and 'holding'. Very clever work going on there, far more than just grabbing on and waiting for the ref to split them up. Mayweather has fought some decent fighters, but who's he beaten who is A LOT better than Hatton? Baldomir? Corrales? Mitchell? Juuko? A past it Gatti or De La Hoya? :dontask: You can say the same for Hatton. Who has he actually fought in their prime? Hatton is very good, and he has beaten who has been put in front of him. PBF a huge favourite IMO Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on July 29, 2007, 07:48:57 PM Has everyone forgotten who Maywether is? This guy HAS beaten a LOT better than Hatton. Like Adam says if Hatton puts in a blood and guts performance it could be a serious ruck but theres a danger that if it goes tactical it will turn into a show fight like the de la hoya fight. Why does Hatton hold so much at world class level? he never used to fight like that. You talking about the holding in the last fight? Have a look at the fight again and see what Hatton's doing when they are up close and 'holding'. Very clever work going on there, far more than just grabbing on and waiting for the ref to split them up. Mayweather has fought some decent fighters, but who's he beaten who is A LOT better than Hatton? Baldomir? Corrales? Mitchell? Juuko? A past it Gatti or De La Hoya? :dontask: You can say the same for Hatton. Who has he actually fought in their prime? Hatton is very good, and he has beaten who has been put in front of him. PBF a huge favourite IMO I didn't say Hatton had beaten anyone A LOT better than Mayweather. I just wondered who you were referring to? It will be Hatton's biggest fight. I also think it will be Mayweather's. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on July 31, 2007, 09:51:01 AM Mayweather has fought some decent fighters, but who's he beaten who is A LOT better than Hatton? Baldomir? Corrales? Mitchell? Juuko? A past it Gatti or De La Hoya? :dontask: You can say the same for Hatton. Who has he actually fought in their prime? Hatton is very good, and he has beaten who has been put in front of him. PBF a huge favourite IMO I didn't say Hatton had beaten anyone A LOT better than Mayweather. I just wondered who you were referring to? Huh? It will be Hatton's biggest fight. I also think it will be Mayweather's. I think PBF's last fight was his biggest. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on July 31, 2007, 02:56:36 PM Mayweather has fought some decent fighters, but who's he beaten who is A LOT better than Hatton? Baldomir? Corrales? Mitchell? Juuko? A past it Gatti or De La Hoya? :dontask: You can say the same for Hatton. Who has he actually fought in their prime? Hatton is very good, and he has beaten who has been put in front of him. PBF a huge favourite IMO I didn't say Hatton had beaten anyone A LOT better than Mayweather. I just wondered who you were referring to? Huh? Not you - bolt. My bad. It will be Hatton's biggest fight. I also think it will be Mayweather's. I think PBF's last fight was his biggest. I think it was as well. If he fights Hatton though, that will be his biggest in boxing terms if not monetary (and I think his hardest). Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on July 31, 2007, 04:06:50 PM I disagree and you should put your money on Mayweather.
Hatton is a light welterweight. He went upstairs against Luis Collazo, didn't like it and got found out wanting in the power department. He also has a skin problem as well and the longer PBF dances around the ring giving pot shots, the harder it will be for Hatton. What a fight! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on July 31, 2007, 04:54:40 PM I think we both agree it'll be an excellent fight though, possibly a classic?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on July 31, 2007, 07:29:33 PM I think we both agree it'll be an excellent fight though, possibly a classic? I think that PBF will win quite convincingly. Hopefully he doesn't though, he has an off day and Ricky wins. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on July 31, 2007, 08:21:58 PM it wont take PBF having an off day for Hatton to win. If Hatton gives it everything he's got I don't think Mayweather will be able to work and will get ground down.
you cant bet on Mayweather anyway. he'll be odds on surely Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on July 31, 2007, 09:01:26 PM it wont take PBF having an off day for Hatton to win. If Hatton gives it everything he's got I don't think Mayweather will be able to work and will get ground down. Yes it would because PBF is the best p4p fighter around. Meaning theoretically that if he fought RH at his peak he would win.PBF is 4/9 Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on August 01, 2007, 01:48:30 PM the 'pound for pound' thing is subjective. I know it's the commonly held opinion but for me that's hype. I'm not saying he's not a great boxer but the p4p thing is a red herring for me.
Boxers, like other sportsmen aren't machines. to believe that fighter A is better than fighter B so should beat him the majority, or even all the time doesn't work. They're human beings making split second decisions under high pressure. one wrong move and it's lights out, or if not, a series of shots that can start a collapse. Ricky Hatton will be in the best shape of his life and If Mayweather makes a mistake, he'll lose. If he could turn the clock back 5 years, that'd still be the case. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on August 01, 2007, 05:06:38 PM The best aspect of this fight for me is that we will find out once and for all how good Hatton is. I personally think he is overrated and will be given a boxing masterclass by PBF others clearly think he is capable of beating the best boxer on the planet. In a few months time we will know for sure who is right :)
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Karabiner on August 01, 2007, 06:58:09 PM If this fight had been made at light-welter I would seriously fancy Hatton.
At welterweight he has yet to convince me. I think Ricky has a very tough job, great fight in prospect though. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on August 01, 2007, 07:25:56 PM it's only half a stone
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Kaiser Soze on August 01, 2007, 08:24:57 PM I agree with Adam re: the p4p and that they're not machines. It's the best man on the night.
Mayweather is the more naturally talented fighter but Hatton has such a strong character and is a smart cookie. He can also box more than he is credited for by the yanks IMO. He and Billy Graham will be working out a plan to nullify Mayweather's natural advantage. I don't think it will be a pretty fight, I expect Hatton to be all over him like flies round the proverbial. But that's also what Mayweather will be expecting.... I wouldn't like to call it, but I can't wait! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on August 01, 2007, 08:38:01 PM one correction
Mayweather is the naturally better BOXER Hatton is a much stronger FIGHTER Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on August 01, 2007, 09:27:16 PM it's only half a stone If thats the case why did Hatton go back to light-welter after the Collazo fight when all the "big" fights were at welter? I think mentally it may be telling if not physically, there may be a nagging doubt in Hattons mind that he is not as effectrive at welter. Although they have admitted they will approach this fight differently, suggesting they got it wrong v Collazo. Aside from this fight I was just looking at some of the upcoming matches in the next few months and there are some "proper fights" coming up which I'm really looking forward to seeing Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: DaveShoelace on August 01, 2007, 10:26:16 PM Both men are the ideal candiate to beat the other, Hatton is the only fighter who could beat Mayweather right now and vice versa.
Oscar De La Hoya was beating Mayweather for the first 3 or 4 rounds, Hatton will be able to keep that pace up all night, I go Hitman on points. Back Hatton on an American Sportsbook towards the end of November, you'll get a crazy price. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on August 02, 2007, 01:49:15 PM it's only half a stone If thats the case why did Hatton go back to light-welter after the Collazo fight when all the "big" fights were at welter? I think mentally it may be telling if not physically, there may be a nagging doubt in Hattons mind that he is not as effectrive at welter. Although they have admitted they will approach this fight differently, suggesting they got it wrong v Collazo. Aside from this fight I was just looking at some of the upcoming matches in the next few months and there are some "proper fights" coming up which I'm really looking forward to seeing I've talked about this before. boxers / commentators / fans talk about half a stone in weight as if it's a contributary factor in power. It's just not. I've been doing martial arts 14 years now and when I started I was 5'8" and 9.5 st Im now 11.5 st (and still 5'8") and I've always trained with much taller and heavier people. obviously bigger guys TEND to be stronger but a stone either way doesn't make any difference to how hard you hit. The only difference putting on extra weight might make to boxers is that they're having to move a greater weight around so might tire quicker. if a light welterweight were to bulk up to light middle, you'd expect them to tire out quicker. they wouldn't punch any harder though. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on August 02, 2007, 01:51:31 PM it's only half a stone If thats the case why did Hatton go back to light-welter after the Collazo fight when all the "big" fights were at welter? I think mentally it may be telling if not physically, there may be a nagging doubt in Hattons mind that he is not as effectrive at welter. Although they have admitted they will approach this fight differently, suggesting they got it wrong v Collazo. Aside from this fight I was just looking at some of the upcoming matches in the next few months and there are some "proper fights" coming up which I'm really looking forward to seeing I've talked about this before. boxers / commentators / fans talk about half a stone in weight as if it's a contributary factor in power. It's just not. I've been doing martial arts 14 years now and when I started I was 5'8" and 9.5 st Im now 11.5 st (and still 5'8") and I've always trained with much taller and heavier people. obviously bigger guys TEND to be stronger but a stone either way doesn't make any difference to how hard you hit. The only difference putting on extra weight might make to boxers is that they're having to move a greater weight around so might tire quicker. if a light welterweight were to bulk up to light middle, you'd expect them to tire out quicker. they wouldn't punch any harder though. At the pinnacle of a sport, small margins mean a lot more... Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on August 02, 2007, 06:45:48 PM very true, but half a stone difference in weight and a difference in power are not related.
difference in power between light welterweight and Middle weight will be marginal but a noticable factor. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on August 02, 2007, 06:51:58 PM Also worth noting that Hatton is big for a light-welter weight. That fight he had at the higher weight wasn't a good one but this wasn't necessarily due to the step up in weight, but could be down to his preparation (which hasn't always been perfect in the fights he doesn't see as 'massive') and to the sort of fighter Collazo is.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on August 02, 2007, 08:01:24 PM Cracking interview with Billy Graham on the fight here
http://www.manchesterboxers.com/index.php?topic=297.0 Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on August 02, 2007, 08:10:11 PM Cracking interview with Billy Graham on the fight here http://www.manchesterboxers.com/index.php?topic=297.0 Good find :)up Love this bit: Quote BG: “Good! Floyd spends his career disrespecting people. I think he's a great fighter and I won't disrespect him but he disrespects people all the time. If it took him seeing his arse a bit to lose his temper and get him in the ring then I'm happy Ricky did that. “Like him or loathe him Floyd is a man and he will fight to prove that to everyone. Floyd may act like a tosser but he is a man and he is a fighter and he'll have to prove it against Ricky.” Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on August 02, 2007, 08:43:31 PM thanks bazza, great read
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on August 02, 2007, 08:44:52 PM http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6928430.stm
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Pelham Boy on August 02, 2007, 09:37:35 PM Anyone thinking of making the trip over?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Kaiser Soze on August 02, 2007, 09:48:11 PM it's only half a stone If thats the case why did Hatton go back to light-welter after the Collazo fight when all the "big" fights were at welter? I think mentally it may be telling if not physically, there may be a nagging doubt in Hattons mind that he is not as effectrive at welter. Although they have admitted they will approach this fight differently, suggesting they got it wrong v Collazo. Aside from this fight I was just looking at some of the upcoming matches in the next few months and there are some "proper fights" coming up which I'm really looking forward to seeing I've talked about this before. boxers / commentators / fans talk about half a stone in weight as if it's a contributary factor in power. It's just not. I've been doing martial arts 14 years now and when I started I was 5'8" and 9.5 st Im now 11.5 st (and still 5'8") and I've always trained with much taller and heavier people. obviously bigger guys TEND to be stronger but a stone either way doesn't make any difference to how hard you hit. The only difference putting on extra weight might make to boxers is that they're having to move a greater weight around so might tire quicker. if a light welterweight were to bulk up to light middle, you'd expect them to tire out quicker. they wouldn't punch any harder though. I've read a good few of your posts Adam, and I know you know what you're talking about in this respect. But isn't the weight factor more to do with how you absorb the punch from your opponent rather than the power of your dig at the heavier weight? Proportional transfer of momentum etc? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on August 02, 2007, 09:59:06 PM Anyone thinking of making the trip over? Would love to. Might have to get playing some serious poker to fund the trip. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Kaiser Soze on August 02, 2007, 10:13:50 PM Anyone thinking of making the trip over? Would love to. Might have to get playing some serious poker to fund the trip. I envy you guys. I'm trying to organise some time to get to Moortown one night in the next month! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on August 02, 2007, 10:23:34 PM I've read a good few of your posts Adam, and I know you know what you're talking about in this respect. But isn't the weight factor more to do with how you absorb the punch from your opponent rather than the power of your dig at the heavier weight? Proportional transfer of momentum etc? possibly. that's the first time I've heard the idea. it's certainly not what boxing pundits are talking about when they talk about weight advantages but I suppose it might be a factor. upper body movement foot work and conditioning would be bigger factor in punch resilience i would think. in regards to this fight, it's been said that Mayweather is a natural light weight and Hatton a natural light welter weight so if it were a factor (which I don't think it is), it'd be in Hattons favour. the rest is off topic and would probably be better talked about in the general fighting thread I started that's slipped down a bit. http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=20685.0 Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Woodsey on August 02, 2007, 11:33:48 PM Anyone thinking of making the trip over? The main event of the Five Diamond classic starts on the 13th, so the week before when ricky is fighting (8th) they will have all the lead up events $1-5k. Something to aim for if I get a decent score maybe? :)up Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on August 02, 2007, 11:56:07 PM I've read a good few of your posts Adam, and I know you know what you're talking about in this respect. But isn't the weight factor more to do with how you absorb the punch from your opponent rather than the power of your dig at the heavier weight? Proportional transfer of momentum etc? possibly. that's the first time I've heard the idea. it's certainly not what boxing pundits are talking about when they talk about weight advantages but I suppose it might be a factor. upper body movement foot work and conditioning would be bigger factor in punch resilience i would think. in regards to this fight, it's been said that Mayweather is a natural light weight and Hatton a natural light welter weight so if it were a factor (which I don't think it is), it'd be in Hattons favour. the rest is off topic and would probably be better talked about in the general fighting thread I started that's slipped down a bit. http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=20685.0 The converse is definitely true - a fighter who struggles to lose weight to meet a weight limit can often have poor punch resilience, and this if often due to dehydration or poor nutrition before the fight. So, I guess moving up a weight could add some punch resilience as well. So for Hatton, moving up to welterweight would be an advantage in this aspect. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on August 03, 2007, 08:23:48 AM cutting large amounts of weight definitely has a negative effect on stamina. cutting for the weight-in in the mistaken belief that when they then put a stone of more on for the fight they'll be punching like a middle weight is crazy.
there should be fight day weight ins, that would stop people moving up and down weights so much. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on August 03, 2007, 10:05:14 AM Anyone thinking of making the trip over? The main event of the Five Diamond classic starts on the 13th, so the week before when ricky is fighting (8th) they will have all the lead up events $1-5k. Something to aim for if I get a decent score maybe? :)up does anyone know the best way to get hold of tickets etc? Where can i sattelite into the five diamond classic? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on August 03, 2007, 01:20:16 PM Reading between the lines it appears as though Ricky's gameplan will be centred around being able to physically dominate Mayweather. Graham says he sees Mayweather as a natural lightweight so I'm guessing he perceives Hatton to have an edge in natural strength. Hatton is at his best when he is able to dominate and manhandle his opponents, he did this against Castillo (another natural lightweight) and to a lesser extent Tszyu who couldn't cope with his intensity. He has however struggled against Collazo a naturally bigger man and Urango who was a beast, he was unable to exert any physical domination in those fights and struggled (I know he beat Urango easily but was far from impressive). I also expect Hatton to come in well within the 147 limit, infact I wouldn't be surprised if he was closer to 140 than 147.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AndrewT on September 17, 2007, 09:58:54 PM Tickets for this went on sale today.
Sold out in five minutes. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 17, 2007, 10:01:27 PM It's ON!!!!!!!
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: wader leg on September 18, 2007, 09:26:29 PM Lol at the Verbals starting already
Hatton takes the piss out of Mayweather for starring in a ballroom dancing show, Mayweather responds by calling him Vicky Fatton. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 18, 2007, 09:29:28 PM lol. Mayweather won't rattle Hatton though.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 18, 2007, 09:48:05 PM "your mum" insults are the way forward.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 20, 2007, 09:54:07 PM just watched all the press conference and interviews and the closer this gets, the bigger chance I give Ricky Hatton.
Mayweather really trys to rattle Hatton and he just laughs at him. Mayweather thinks this is a gimme and he's going to get a shock. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 20, 2007, 10:03:21 PM As much as i'd like to believe Hatton can do the bussiness mayweather WILL slaughter him i just cant see any other result. Aslo I think that the verbal IS getting to Hatton, if you go to youtube and watch the sky sports news segment on it Ricky seems a bit affected when giving them an interview immediatly after the confrence, he seems especialy tongue tied when asked about the verbal he's just recieved
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Jedwick on September 21, 2007, 12:20:49 AM Id love to see Hatton win but cant see it, the 1.51 on BF seems huge and even bigger is the 6.4 that he wins by KO TKO or DQ, i've lumped on!!
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AndrewT on September 21, 2007, 01:13:12 AM Whilst we're talking about boxing, does anyone want to see Oscar de la Hoya in high heels and a fishnet body stocking?
http://x17online.com/celebrities/x17_xclusive_presenting_miss_oscar_de_la_hoya.php (http://x17online.com/celebrities/x17_xclusive_presenting_miss_oscar_de_la_hoya.php) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 21, 2007, 01:26:49 AM Whilst we're talking about boxing, does anyone want to see Oscar de la Hoya in high heels and a fishnet body stocking? http://x17online.com/celebrities/x17_xclusive_presenting_miss_oscar_de_la_hoya.php (http://x17online.com/celebrities/x17_xclusive_presenting_miss_oscar_de_la_hoya.php) lol, I was betting 1/33 the rickroll before clicking, you couldnt make it up! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 21, 2007, 08:26:39 AM Id love to see Hatton win but cant see it, the 1.51 on BF seems huge and even bigger is the 6.4 that he wins by KO TKO or DQ, i've lumped on!! sorry, I hope you lose the lot. there's no way he's getting slaughtered. if he loses, it'll be a hard long war. more likely I think hatton will smother him and grind it out go on Ricky Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 21, 2007, 09:10:10 AM If Mayweather wins, I very much doubt it'd be via a stoppage.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 21, 2007, 01:24:19 PM I agree. by far the most likely result is a judges decision in either direction. either getting KO'd is unlikely.
I'm not saying Mayweather isn't a favourite in the fight, I'm saying it's narrow and Hatton winning would be no fluke. Mayweather is used to people standing in front of him and letting him pick them off. Hatton says he knows Mayweather is capable of fighting inside and expects him to do so early on. He'll think better of it after a few rounds. my biggest concern is a bad cut rather than a KO Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 21, 2007, 10:47:41 PM Hatton press-conference.
Not for those sensitive to strong language (but bloody funny!). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUh7Y_rWrcQ rotflmfao Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 21, 2007, 10:55:58 PM see, even the news presenter kept saying Hatton is under pressure ::)
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Jim-D on September 21, 2007, 10:57:30 PM Brilliant stuff.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 21, 2007, 11:00:01 PM see, even the news presenter kept saying Hatton is under pressure ::) I think the presenter was the one under pressure, trying to make sure he kept his job! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 24, 2007, 12:27:28 PM http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7009133.stm
De La Hoya wants some as well now... Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on September 24, 2007, 12:50:47 PM I am now positive that Hatton will win this if he doesn't get KO'd.
If mayweather takes on the fight like his de la hoya fight i think it will be perfect for ricky. De La Hoya continualy went to the head when mayweather wasn't fighting back early on and mayweather is an expert at ducking those hits so wasn't tired out for the last rounds but even then he didn't make it count that much. If ricky goes in with his mauling style and sapping body punches i really can't see what mayweather will do to counter it. If they go toe to toe that also favours ricky given mayweathers wildness when it becomes a war, he just starts swinging where as ricky is so hard he's still got his eyes on the prize and connects heavily. In the fight during open exchanges you will definately see ricky ducking any of mayweathers right hooks and crosses and looking to plant killer body shots to his right ribs and below, this really sticks out as weakness for mayweather in this fight as he really does open it up, not so much on his left side and the leverage won't be there either so i expect more uppercuts from rickys right hand when countering mayweathers left. The biggest worry for hatton is mayweathers brilliant straight right, it's so quick and powerful he could easily get knocked down by one so he should rarely be coming in head up. My god i am so excited, this is easily the greatest fight for british boxer in my lifetime and having followed ricky for years i feel a genuine sort of personal involement. Anyone fancy meeeting up to watch the fight somewhere? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 24, 2007, 12:55:14 PM Nice summary, and I agree with pretty much all of it.
I'm getting excited too. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: action man on September 24, 2007, 01:04:14 PM Im so pissed off. Im supposed to be going to this fight but i missed the £320 flights anfd now they are closer to the £1200 mark. Which i am not prepeared to pay as the tickets will be £300-£500. If i can find a flight for £500 ill go a week before and tackle the multis in vegas to hopefully subsidise my trip. If anyone sees any cheapo flights let me know please.
If not its gonna be 10 lads round at mine, pizza, beer, and boxing. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: littlemissC on September 24, 2007, 01:20:05 PM just watched the press conference,couldnt stop laughing..
i dont think Hatton looked under pressure at all,i think he thought Mayweather was an idiot..cant wait for this fight.. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: thediceman on September 24, 2007, 02:25:49 PM Waited 30 minutes to watch the press conference and all because Ricky said a few swear words the cut it. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Scottish Dave on September 24, 2007, 03:10:54 PM enough of all this drivel....Ricky the over rated hitman just doesn't stand a chance....give him credit tho for his brass balls in stepping up to the plate, but there is no way on earth he will win this fight....
....Mayweather win via stoppage easily! More importantly tho, is it going to be on Pay per View...or shown free on Setanta like the last fight? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AndrewT on September 24, 2007, 03:26:15 PM http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7009133.stm De La Hoya wants some as well now... The link to that story from the BBC front page was 'De la Hoya eyes Hatton'. Given the link I posted earlier on, I thought that was pretty funny. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Rooky9 on September 24, 2007, 03:27:19 PM Im so pissed off. Im supposed to be going to this fight but i missed the £320 flights anfd now they are closer to the £1200 mark. Which i am not prepeared to pay as the tickets will be £300-£500. If i can find a flight for £500 ill go a week before and tackle the multis in vegas to hopefully subsidise my trip. If anyone sees any cheapo flights let me know please. If not its gonna be 10 lads round at mine, pizza, beer, and boxing. should work.... http://www.travelsupermarket.com/flights/results.aspx?aggregationid=1508700000000166938&available=40&searchsource=homepageflightsgadget The MyTravel one non stop is porb the best but it depends where your based and if you want any airmiles from it.... Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 24, 2007, 03:35:44 PM enough of all this drivel....Ricky the over rated hitman just doesn't stand a chance....give him credit tho for his brass balls in stepping up to the plate, but there is no way on earth he will win this fight.... ....Mayweather win via stoppage easily! More importantly tho, is it going to be on Pay per View...or shown free on Setanta like the last fight? Sky PPV. Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Scottish Dave on September 24, 2007, 04:44:35 PM enough of all this drivel....Ricky the over rated hitman just doesn't stand a chance....give him credit tho for his brass balls in stepping up to the plate, but there is no way on earth he will win this fight.... ....Mayweather win via stoppage easily! More importantly tho, is it going to be on Pay per View...or shown free on Setanta like the last fight? Sky PPV. Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? Based on Mayweather being one of the best fighters in the world (if not the best in that weight)......and that Hatton just isn't good enough!.....i know this might upset a few patriotic English folk, but i honest think he is going to get smashed (sometimes the patriotism blinds people from the truth) PS Sky PPV....thats poo poo! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 24, 2007, 05:13:01 PM enough of all this drivel....Ricky the over rated hitman just doesn't stand a chance....give him credit tho for his brass balls in stepping up to the plate, but there is no way on earth he will win this fight.... ....Mayweather win via stoppage easily! More importantly tho, is it going to be on Pay per View...or shown free on Setanta like the last fight? Sky PPV. Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? what do you mean based on what? based on him being Mayweather! you lot keep talking like it's going to be competitive ::) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on September 24, 2007, 05:26:28 PM enough of all this drivel....Ricky the over rated hitman just doesn't stand a chance....give him credit tho for his brass balls in stepping up to the plate, but there is no way on earth he will win this fight.... ....Mayweather win via stoppage easily! More importantly tho, is it going to be on Pay per View...or shown free on Setanta like the last fight? Sky PPV. Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? what do you mean based on what? based on him being Mayweather! you lot keep talking like it's going to be competitive ::) i guarantee competitive. there is a reason hatton wins fights you know. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 24, 2007, 05:27:30 PM enough of all this drivel....Ricky the over rated hitman just doesn't stand a chance....give him credit tho for his brass balls in stepping up to the plate, but there is no way on earth he will win this fight.... ....Mayweather win via stoppage easily! More importantly tho, is it going to be on Pay per View...or shown free on Setanta like the last fight? Sky PPV. Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? what do you mean based on what? based on him being Mayweather! you lot keep talking like it's going to be competitive ::) i guarantee competitive. there is a reason hatton wins fights you know. lol, not against Mayweather Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on September 24, 2007, 07:08:17 PM Everyone's a boxing expert
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 24, 2007, 07:15:27 PM Everyone's a boxing expert It's a boxing thread what did you expect it to contain "i hate boxing" "what a crap thread" "just a quick post to say i know nothing about boxing" ::) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Robert HM on September 24, 2007, 07:27:12 PM just a quick post to say i know almost nothing about boxing
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 24, 2007, 07:46:27 PM Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? based on the hype Hatton is definitely good enough to give Mayweather a tough fight. Beating him on the night depends on dozens of factors, not least that they're human beings rather than machines and on any given night, a tough bugger like Hatton can beat anyone, even Mayweather Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 24, 2007, 07:48:14 PM Ive just been to the partical physics forum, everyones an expert
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Robert HM on September 24, 2007, 08:00:23 PM Ive just been to the partical physics forum, everyones an expert just a quick post to say i know almost nothing about partical physicsTitle: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: marcro on September 24, 2007, 08:14:57 PM is an expert someone who used to be a pert?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AndrewT on September 24, 2007, 08:16:52 PM Ive just been to the partical physics forum, everyones an expert Well, one person said they were an expert, then the rest of us lepton the bandwagon. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 24, 2007, 08:19:38 PM they did?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nakor on September 24, 2007, 08:22:29 PM Ive just been to the partical physics forum, everyones an expert ;applause; I am at All Tomorrow's Parties in Minehead, Portisheads first gig in 10 years and loads of others. Thankfully they have a pub that will be open and showing the fight, I am assured. Do you think Sopcast or the like will have this Streamed ? Just in case. God I hope Ricky wins. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 24, 2007, 09:46:29 PM Ive just been to the partical physics forum, everyones an expert Well, one person said they were an expert, then the rest of us lepton the bandwagon. :)up Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on September 24, 2007, 11:48:43 PM Ive just been to the partical physics forum, everyones an expert Just been to the assholes forum, bolt pp is an expert. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Robert HM on September 24, 2007, 11:50:27 PM just a quick post to say i know nothing at all about assholes
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 25, 2007, 01:12:48 AM Ive just been to the partical physics forum, everyones an expert Just been to the assholes forum, bolt pp is an expert. i just post there, your a mod I imagine you had something else in mind when you googled "assholes" anyway, but i'm not here to judge Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Robert HM on September 25, 2007, 01:17:25 AM Ive just been to the partical physics forum, everyones an expert Just been to the assholes forum, bolt pp is an expert. i just post there, your a mod I imagine you had something else in mind when you googled "assholes" anyway, but i'm not here to judge Count to 10 folks, night night. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Woodsey on September 25, 2007, 01:36:37 AM anyone got a link to the press conference uncut without the sky apologies over the top?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 25, 2007, 01:10:48 PM all on youtube
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: booder on September 25, 2007, 01:50:32 PM ;popcorn; ;popcorn;
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 25, 2007, 02:19:44 PM Ive just been to the partical physics forum, everyones an expert Just been to the assholes forum, bolt pp is an expert. i just post there, your a mod I imagine you had something else in mind when you googled "assholes" anyway, but i'm not here to judge You're hairy and smell of shit so you must be an asshole. Not 100% true. I went to a school with a kid called Barry who matched that description. Wonder what he's doing now...? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on September 25, 2007, 02:35:22 PM Probably best mates with bolt.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Robert HM on September 25, 2007, 02:38:20 PM Sigh
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 25, 2007, 06:22:00 PM your right i smell of shit now because i just read your posts and shit myself
you're a doughnut, bow down to me!!!! ;tightend; Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on September 26, 2007, 02:21:18 AM your right i smell of shit now because i just read your posts and shit myself you're a doughnut, bow down to me!!!! ;tightend; Wow, impressive comeback. You take all day to think of that? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on September 26, 2007, 06:54:27 AM your right i smell of shit now because i just read your posts and shit myself you're a doughnut, bow down to me!!!! ;tightend; Wow, impressive comeback. You take all day to think of that? No, i thought of it right away but i was too busy banging your missus to post it Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on September 26, 2007, 11:19:02 AM Whilst your boyfriend was watching?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: TightEnd on September 26, 2007, 11:20:50 AM /:-| ;yellowcard; ;yellowcard;
come on guys, pack it in Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 26, 2007, 11:54:46 AM http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=194916&Sn=SPOR&IssueID=30189
Good article Quote Floyd Mayweather is widely considered as the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world today. Undefeated. An enduring world champion. An accomplished ring warrior. That being said, he has the right to call his own shots. At this point in his career, he has the ultimate say on who, where and when to fight - and when to retire. Like the proverbial 800-pound gorilla that sleeps wherever and whenever it chooses, Mayweather can fight or not according to his own timetable. Because of his glowing reputation as an undefeated world champion in at least six weight divisions, Mayweather is free to do what he wants. In fact, after conquering Oscar De La Hoya to capture the World Boxing Council (WBC) 147-pound welterweight title last May, he already announced his retirement though few in boxing circles believe him. Since then, there have been nagging questions going on as to whether Mayweather still wants to box. Then he made it clear: He is not ready to retire just yet. An attractive world title fight with Ricky Hatton - the pride of Britain - proved enough of a lure that brought the American jaw-cracker back in the ring. Their December 8 bout at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas should go down as one of the biggest today, and one of the richest in boxing history. It is, however, far more than money and fame. So what would a fight be like between Mayweather and Hatton? Well, it sounds so entertaining yet so dangerous. Mayweather is in his prime and Hatton should be at his peak. For Mayweather, it's about legacy. This could possibly be his one last fight before hanging up his history-coated gloves for good. And he wants to leave the sport as an undisputed world champion. Mayweather is a polished prizefighter with a slick style. Supremely confident. Fighting a smart fight. He's so ferocious. His talent is so impressive that when you watch him fight, it is hard to fathom that anyone can possibly beat him. And so if Hatton beats Mayweather, it would make him the world's best - no questions asked. Certainly, the fame from this fight would be half the push the British fighter needs to build his own monarchy. Hatton, who dominates the 140-pound division, knows that for him to become the best fighter on the planet today, and join the elite list of all-time greats in the future, the first big step is to take risks. Well, obviously, anytime you're fighting a guy as dangerous as Mayweather, there's a real risk. And another risk: Hatton is jumping up from 140 pounds to 147 pounds to meet Mayweather in the roped ring. While it is seven pounds more than Hatton's optimum weight as a junior welterweight, 147 is Mayweather's weight class - and his virtual slaughterhouse. Like Mayweather, Hatton is undefeated. Unlike Mayweather, he fights in a wild, all-out style. Mayweather is a pure boxer while Hatton is a brawler. Hatton is a pit bull in boxing trunks who loves to break down his opponents with a relentless head and body attack. With his sheer energy, Hatton can bully his opponents around the ring. He can punch from any direction, and has quickness in his hands that could give Mayweather fits. However, Mayweather is on the top of a mountain named Mt Talent. His footwork is graceful. He has speed. He has punching power. He punches so fast. Clearly, he is faster than Hatton. Mayweather is durable, strong and possesses one of the hardest barrage of punches in his division. He defends his head and body well. And his uses his head to outbox his opponents. He also has high stamina. It seems the man never tires out. Still, the equally deadly Hatton has a good chance to beat him, especially if Mayweather suddenly loses the appetite to win. Ultimately, Hatton will have his hands full to match up with Mayweather. So the boxing world is buzzing with anticipation that the 12-round title bout between two fighters with spotless records will be a super fight. This will put either Mayweather or Hatton over the top of the boxing world and into everybody's memories as a boxer you tell your kids about. This fight will be history. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 26, 2007, 01:23:54 PM good article.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on September 28, 2007, 01:22:50 AM Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? based on the hype What hype Adam? Maywether is a world champion at five different weights, unbeaten, rarely gets hit - he's nearly the perfect boxer! He will be classed as an 'all time great' maybe the best ever. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 28, 2007, 08:28:46 AM of course he's an accomplished boxer and will certainly go down as an all time great. "Best pound for pound boxer" is rhetoric. It's a meaningless statement that can never be proven, because he can't fight heavyweights, or bantam weights.
Also, I've said before, boxers / fighters aren't machines that can be ranked in a definite way. fighters capabilities change second by second, not year by year. If Hatton is in the right place mentally on dec 8th he definitely has the tools to beat mayweather. people who think he'll get destroyed are looking at boxers like top trump cards Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 28, 2007, 08:40:52 AM Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? based on the hype What hype Adam? Maywether is a world champion at five different weights, unbeaten, rarely gets hit - he's nearly the perfect boxer! He will be classed as an 'all time great' maybe the best ever. Which other top class fighters has Mayweather stopped easily? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 28, 2007, 01:38:07 PM Gatti
totally different fighter to Hatton Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 28, 2007, 02:01:14 PM Gatti totally different fighter to Hatton Gatti wasn't world class when Mayweather got to him. Very good still, but the Ward trilogy had taken a lot out of him. Baldomir and Gomez would have had harder tasks against him when he was at his best. As would Mayweather (who'd have still won, and probably convincingly). Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on September 28, 2007, 07:59:41 PM Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? based on the hype What hype Adam? Maywether is a world champion at five different weights, unbeaten, rarely gets hit - he's nearly the perfect boxer! He will be classed as an 'all time great' maybe the best ever. Which other top class fighters has Mayweather stopped easily? Mayweather is the ultimate boxer not fighter. He will box Ricky and win quite comfortably. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on September 28, 2007, 08:08:32 PM Mayweather is definitely a boxer. Hatton is a boxer AND a fighter and he will give Mayweather a very tough time. I said before I accept Mayweather goes into the fight as favourite, but far narrower than most insist.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on September 28, 2007, 09:00:44 PM Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? based on the hype What hype Adam? Maywether is a world champion at five different weights, unbeaten, rarely gets hit - he's nearly the perfect boxer! He will be classed as an 'all time great' maybe the best ever. Which other top class fighters has Mayweather stopped easily? Mayweather is the ultimate boxer not fighter. He will box Ricky and win quite comfortably. That's very different to saying he will stop him easily though, as has been asserted previously (by bolty). Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on October 03, 2007, 02:47:27 PM Mayweather to stop him easily? Based on what? based on the hype What hype Adam? Maywether is a world champion at five different weights, unbeaten, rarely gets hit - he's nearly the perfect boxer! He will be classed as an 'all time great' maybe the best ever. Which other top class fighters has Mayweather stopped easily? Mayweather is the ultimate boxer not fighter. He will box Ricky and win quite comfortably. Exactly Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on October 03, 2007, 02:56:59 PM Exactly wrong. There is no way Mayweather wins this comfortably.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 03, 2007, 03:39:36 PM There is also no way he stops Hatton easily.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: thediceman on October 03, 2007, 10:51:13 PM Mayweather is the ultimate boxer not fighter. He will box Ricky and win quite comfortably. Don Currie was regarded as the best pound for pound boxer on the plant and everybody thought he would comfortably win against Lloyd Honeyghan. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 03, 2007, 11:01:38 PM Mayweather is the ultimate boxer not fighter. He will box Ricky and win quite comfortably. Don Currie was regarded as the best pound for pound boxer on the plant and everybody thought he would comfortably win against Lloyd Honeyghan. What a night that was!!! One of the best fights I've ever seen. Pure brilliant. As an aside, they're lining up Dida to face either Julius Francis or Audrey Harrison... Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Colchester Kev on October 03, 2007, 11:08:31 PM Mayweather is the ultimate boxer not fighter. He will box Ricky and win quite comfortably. Don Currie was regarded as the best pound for pound boxer on the plant and everybody thought he would comfortably win against Lloyd Honeyghan. What a night that was!!! One of the best fights I've ever seen. Pure brilliant. As an aside, they're lining up Dida to face either Julius Francis or Audrey Harrison... Neither of those 2 would put Dida on his arse ;) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: thediceman on October 03, 2007, 11:24:26 PM Mayweather is the ultimate boxer not fighter. He will box Ricky and win quite comfortably. Don Currie was regarded as the best pound for pound boxer on the plant and everybody thought he would comfortably win against Lloyd Honeyghan. What a night that was!!! One of the best fights I've ever seen. Pure brilliant. As an aside, they're lining up Dida to face either Julius Francis or Audrey Harrison... Neither of those 2 would put Dida on his arse ;) Neither did Muhammad Ali ;) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on October 05, 2007, 10:37:36 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. you have to recognise that hatton is a top quality fighter and will not be beaten easily. i accept that mayweather is a top top fighter but shold he lose here his legacy will be destroyred and there is a definite chence he will be.
i am a bookmaker and look at the odds available, much stronger favourites have been beaten by far less talented fighters than hatton. Hatton is incrediblebly strong and his stamina is incredible for the fighting style he employs. He may lose but there is no way you will see him 'taught a lesson', 'embaressed' or 'destroyred' etc. pay for your pay per view and get ready to shout yourself mad on the night because there is a better chance then you realise that our boy could acheive the greatest feat by a british boxer ever. come on ricky. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 05, 2007, 10:40:58 PM Nice post.
What are your thoughts on the odds on Barrera? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on October 05, 2007, 10:52:44 PM I just think mayweathers different mustard and hattons never fought anyone with such a Superior technical boxing prowess, hatton can ruck and hes fought brawlers and champions but he hasn't fought someone with such an delectably insightfull application of boxing exuberance tempered with unparalleled flair and control, hes a unique figher that you just cant prepare for, he has all the attributes to adapt to whatever style of opponent he faces, he's one of the few fighters in history who isn't constrained by a style of his own but retains a laudable versatility that allows him to dominate fights in a polarised contrast of aggression and prudence
he will out box Ricky comfortably Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 05, 2007, 11:43:30 PM I just think mayweathers different mustard and hattons never fought anyone with such a Superior technical boxing prowess, hatton can ruck and hes fought brawlers and champions but he hasn't fought someone with such an delectably insightfull application of boxing exuberance tempered with unparalleled flair and control, hes a unique figher that you just cant prepare for, he has all the attributes to adapt to whatever style of opponent he faces, he's one of the few fighters in history who isn't constrained by a style of his own but retains a laudable versatility that allows him to dominate fights in a polarised contrast of aggression and prudence he will out box Ricky comfortably You said he's stop him easily. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on October 05, 2007, 11:51:51 PM I just think mayweathers different mustard and hattons never fought anyone with such a Superior technical boxing prowess, hatton can ruck and hes fought brawlers and champions but he hasn't fought someone with such an delectably insightfull application of boxing exuberance tempered with unparalleled flair and control, hes a unique figher that you just cant prepare for, he has all the attributes to adapt to whatever style of opponent he faces, he's one of the few fighters in history who isn't constrained by a style of his own but retains a laudable versatility that allows him to dominate fights in a polarised contrast of aggression and prudence he will out box Ricky comfortably You said he's stop him easily. you actually read the shit i post? it's friday night, go out. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on October 06, 2007, 10:53:02 AM win or lose, this will be mayweathers most uncomfortable night in the ring of his career.
Hatton is very respectful of mayweathers skills and takes the fight very seriously but he doesn't believe the hype. he knows he has the tools to beats him. he is physically stronger than mayweather. he has unparralleled cardio (he is capable of putting it 15 1st rounds) he has the capability to alter his style tactically and will have plans A,B & C at least. he hasn't got a huge ego riding on the result of the fight. if mayweather loses this fight his unbeaten 'legacy' is gone. every disrespectful word he's said about hatton smacks him in his face and he faces the choice of either retiring on a loss or fighting on past his prime trying to over shadow that one loss and risk destroying his 'legacy' completely by picking up a string of losses, the further on he fights. Hatton, however doesn't expect to retire unbeaten because he wants to test himself against the best there is. he is realistic, knowing that there is a good chance he'll pick up a loss or two along the way. If he goes down in history as the 2nd, 3rd or 4th best fighhter of his generation, that's fine but he'll show himself to be number 1 in class and dignity. mayweather wouldn't figure on that sort of list. go on Ricky Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: thediceman on October 06, 2007, 11:26:49 AM The concern I have for this fight is not the match up in differing styles and if Mayweather will outbox Hatton, it's the fact that Hatton is moving up a weight class.
Hatton wasn't particularly impressive the last time he did this and this could be the factor the gives Mayweather the winning edge. I'd love Hatton to go and have a tear up with Mayweather but can see Mayweather dancing around for the opening rounds and picking off a tried Hatton in the later rounds. Hatton has great cardio but it's surprising how those few extra pounds affected him last time. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on October 06, 2007, 12:14:37 PM he has unparralleled cardio (he is capable of putting it 15 1st rounds) Did you see the Collazo and Urango fights? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on October 06, 2007, 03:06:58 PM have you seen him train. Billy Graham puts on a padded suit and Ricky beats him for 15 x 3 minutes. Obviously that's not going to happen in a real fight because there's punches coming back, but his fitness is a strength.
True ricky is moving up from 140lb to 147lb but mayweather has only fought at 147 a couple of times and has spent most of him career lighter than 140. strength is also not an issue for Ricky in this fight. It's all about how well Ricky closes distance and how much damage he tajes going in Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 06, 2007, 05:04:31 PM The concern I have for this fight is not the match up in differing styles and if Mayweather will outbox Hatton, it's the fact that Hatton is moving up a weight class. Hatton wasn't particularly impressive the last time he did this and this could be the factor the gives Mayweather the winning edge. I'd love Hatton to go and have a tear up with Mayweather but can see Mayweather dancing around for the opening rounds and picking off a tried Hatton in the later rounds. Hatton has great cardio but it's surprising how those few extra pounds affected him last time. For whatever reason, Hatton wasn't great when he moved up to Welterweight last time. BUT, he did put Collazo down in the 1st round, and then won with a unanimous decision against a very awkward fighter, who no one has looked good against. Maybe it was solely the weight, or maybe it was a bad day at the office. We all have them, just that they're not quite as public. I still think Hatton has the strength to impose himself on Mayweather at Welterweight. There's also no fear of him not being up for this one - something that seems to affect most of the top boxers when they're fighting someone who isn't that well regarded. He certainly won't be taking Mayweather lightly, and it would be a mistake for Mayweather to do the same. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 06, 2007, 05:28:32 PM I'd missed this about Mosley:
Mosley Admits to taking steroids (http://sports.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Other-sports/2007/10/1/Boxing-Mosley-admits-taking-steroids/?facets/sport-space/great-britain-locale/boxing/) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on October 06, 2007, 07:37:45 PM have you seen him train. Billy Graham puts on a padded suit and Ricky beats him for 15 x 3 minutes. Obviously that's not going to happen in a real fight because there's punches coming back, but his fitness is a strength. True ricky is moving up from 140lb to 147lb but mayweather has only fought at 147 a couple of times and has spent most of him career lighter than 140. strength is also not an issue for Ricky in this fight. It's all about how well Ricky closes distance and how much damage he tajes going in So what was wrong in the Urango and Collazo fights? He most certainly didn't look like a man with "unparalleled cardio". He faded badly in both fights and hasn't been asked to go the distance since. Fitness has been a strength of Hattons in the past, indeed it was one of the reasons he managed to beat Tszyu, who couldn't cope with his intensity. However against Collazo and Urango that fitness and intensity was lacking, if thats the case against Mayweather then he doesnt have a hope in hell. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on October 06, 2007, 08:15:41 PM I'd missed this about Mosley: Mosley Admits to taking steroids (http://sports.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Other-sports/2007/10/1/Boxing-Mosley-admits-taking-steroids/?facets/sport-space/great-britain-locale/boxing/) I dont know why they dont just make steroids legal in sports, particularly athletics and instead of penalising the athletes that are willing to show that extra commitment and put there physical health at risk for the sake of there sporting aspirations penalize to doughnuts that haven't got the bottle to take it. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 06, 2007, 09:06:55 PM LOL - could it be because being the best at your sport shouldn't be a serious health-risk?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on October 06, 2007, 09:20:41 PM alcohol was illegal at one point, i mean what isn't bad for you these days? within the space of a week Ive seen two independent studies released suggesting that too much sleep and not enough has the potential to shorten your life expectancy.
let me put this hypothetical question to you, the IAAF(i think thats them, the athletics governing body) have had enough of all the controversy and stop doing any testing for contraband substances giving all athletes a licence to take as much steroids as they like but your currently a drug free sprinter who is pulling his weight at top level but not winning gold medals all over the place, in anticipation of your competitions impending dramatic improvement do you walk away from the sport you love and earn an income from or take or start to take steroids as well? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 06, 2007, 09:21:29 PM 12.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on October 06, 2007, 09:25:45 PM whats that number some kind of numerical number or somethingl?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 06, 2007, 09:27:18 PM You told me not to read your posts - so I didn't and just guessed what the question might have been.
Was I close? Don't answer that, I'm off for some more beer... Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on October 06, 2007, 09:30:49 PM I didnt tell you not to, i asked if you did
are you a spice girls fan? i'm so excited theyre getting back together Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on October 15, 2007, 08:47:41 PM Top bloke.
Pick your heroes carefuly http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qiwP4fPGDyE http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyp5lOu0z8g Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on October 15, 2007, 09:10:36 PM Mayweater is an utter cock, but there is no denying his class.
I hope Ricky wins more than anything; well I wouldnt mind Spurs beating Arse this Millenium, a WPT or WSOP title would be nice, lottery win... Ggogogo Ricky Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 15, 2007, 09:15:24 PM Mayweater is an utter cock, but there is no denying his boxing class. Absolutely a brilliant boxer. Not sure if he has too much class as a boxer though. The fight's still over a month and a half away, but I get more excited about it every time it's mentioned! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on October 15, 2007, 09:31:22 PM my thoughts exactly.
Mayweather is a very talented boxer but the thing he lacks most is class. Thoroughly unpleasant man. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: byronkincaid on October 15, 2007, 09:41:09 PM I'd missed this about Mosley: Mosley Admits to taking steroids (http://sports.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Other-sports/2007/10/1/Boxing-Mosley-admits-taking-steroids/?facets/sport-space/great-britain-locale/boxing/) I dont know why they dont just make steroids legal in sports, particularly athletics and instead of penalising the athletes that are willing to show that extra commitment and put there physical health at risk for the sake of there sporting aspirations penalize to doughnuts that haven't got the bottle to take it. There was a post on here once I forget from who, but he had access to a survey of athletes, one of the questions was something like - if you could take a drug that will definitely kill you by the time you're 30 but you will definitely win a gold medal and definitely will not get caught, would you take it? I remember being shocked by the percentage of people who would take it, can't remember exactly 30-40%? said yes. You would end up with people taking drugs so strong they would die a few days after the race. And you can imagine the leaders of some countries forcing people to take them. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: thediceman on October 18, 2007, 11:16:25 AM Sure it wasn't a survey of WWE wrestlers ;whistle;
I've got friends who are in Vegas whilst the fight is on and I asked them if they would try and get tickets and the said no because if they are $200+ it is to expensive. I tried to agrue that the value of the fight and that I would pay much more to see it. How much would you pay to go to this fight??? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 18, 2007, 11:18:22 AM If I was in Vegas - £250?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on October 18, 2007, 11:48:27 AM If I was in Vegas - £250? That sounds about right. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on October 18, 2007, 01:35:12 PM although having it on sky+ so I can re-watch Mayweathers face as his bottom two right hand side ribs crack is priceless.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on October 18, 2007, 02:42:41 PM lol, mayweathers supposed to be a cock, it boosts the ppv revenue, look at all the interest the promoting tour has generated, translate that into $$ in mayweathers pocket, one of the biggest fights ever, the promoters would be doing there nuts if mayweather just sat there there going"i'm better than ricky, i'll win, blah blah blah".............who wants to hear that? i applaud mayweather in the class hes showed in his ostentatious sales pitch.
they pull mayweather to one side and say "hattons got the personality of a walking diazipam and we need to sell the shit out of this fight turn it on son" bosh, theres your class, consumate business man sells the shit out of it. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on October 18, 2007, 07:50:01 PM you seem to be implying that it's in some way an act or an exaggeration.
Mayweather is a world class arse hole. win or lose, he'll remain that after the fight. Hatton has a great personaliy. Just not an arrogant, rude, disrespectful one. His dignity and humility are admirable traits and win or lose, he will also be the same after the fight. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 18, 2007, 07:57:26 PM you seem to be implying that it's in some way an act or an exaggeration. Mayweather is a world class arse hole. win or lose, he'll remain that after the fight. Hatton has a great personaliy. Just not an arrogant, rude, disrespectful one. His dignity and humility are admirable traits and win or lose, he will also be the same after the fight. Mayweather bad-mouthed Hatton before the fight was even on, when Hatton was fighting someone else and Mayweather had 'retired'. Listen to his interviews away from boxing, and he just reconfirms that he lacks class and humility and I find him fairly odorous. Great boxer, not so great as a person. Hatton is different gravy. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on October 18, 2007, 08:36:20 PM In a declining sport soon to be superseeded in many aspects by the UFC(an occurrence precipitated predominantly by the indifference the heavy weight division has provoked over the past 5 or so years) "rudeness" and "arrogance" are a coarse but necessary requisite that replace "humility" and "class" with economical necessity.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on October 18, 2007, 08:39:35 PM then how come the vast mast majority of UFC fighters carry themselves with class and dignity?
how ever you try and excuse it, he's a dick and it's not necessary UFC PPV far out sells boxing PPV without the unpleasantness Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on October 18, 2007, 08:44:19 PM De La Hoya is the highest earner in boxing outside the heavyweight division. He always carries himself with dignity and class. You don't have to act like Mayweather does to sell tickets. Hatton certainly doesn't.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on October 18, 2007, 08:56:47 PM I never said he wasn't a cock, in fact the first line of my post at the top of the page i concede he's a cock.
as for him "being a dick not being necessary" i'm not so sure about that, there are a lot of different types of dicks in this world and i'm arguing that he's a clever dick. regarding your question about the conduct of UFC fighters i think i already answered that, it's a sport in the ascendency and boxing unable to compete with ppv sales have to look at other forms of enticing the audience where as before it sold itself, what does a boxing match sell now? even at top level 12 round dance about where the fighers barley touch eachother or the judges do whatever they want at the end, the sport just doesn't sell itself anymore and they need mayweather to do it for them, UFC standard, barley need to advertise at all, worst UFC fight these days comparable to one of the top boxing matches. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on October 18, 2007, 09:02:55 PM i think we're basically on the same page here.
I just think you're giving mayweather / boxing too much credit for doing it intentionally. I just think it's a dick, being a dick for dicks sake Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: hotdog on November 13, 2007, 10:46:02 PM surley everyones getting revved up for this only a few weeks away now. It promises to be one of best boxing match ups for a long time
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on November 14, 2007, 01:04:13 PM high level of antici
pation come on Ricky believe people, believe Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: twosneverlose on November 17, 2007, 11:48:34 AM Not my find..
This was posted on another forum, Anyone having a bet on HATTON at around 15/8 . At the moment he is 4/1 for the BBC Sport person of the year behind the fav Lewis Hamiton (would have being a cert if he had won drivers title ) However if Hatton beats Mayweather and brings the titles back . He is sure to be a cert for the BBC award and his price will drop very quick. Just thought I would share this thinking....... Sorry if this was posted before Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on November 17, 2007, 01:18:21 PM I got on him at 9 & 9.2 on betfair, plus covered to win without Hamilton at 4.00 since the Hatton fight was announced and the Drivers championship still looked likely. If it was judged by a panel I'd be very confident but as it's public vote, F1 and Rugby fans probably out number Boxing fans so it's wide open.
Got a bit worried before the Rugby World Cup Final, but I think Wilkinson has fallen behind. looking at the history some was traded on him at 120.00 wow Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on November 17, 2007, 01:29:08 PM Perhaps a little off topic but I was looking at the sports personality market, and although neither have any chance why the hell is Tim Henman a shorter price than Andy Murray? Cos he jacked it in?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on November 23, 2007, 03:10:38 PM The greatest.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7109353.stm Quote Floyd Mayweather has stepped up his war of words with Ricky Hatton by claiming to be the greatest boxer ever. The unbeaten American welterweight insists he is even better than legends Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali. The 30-year-old, who fights Hatton in Las Vegas on 8 December, said: "I can quit today and be known as the best fighter that ever lived. "I respect what Robinson and Ali did for the sport. But I am the greatest, and this is my time." Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on November 23, 2007, 03:24:38 PM Mayweather is a prize bell end.
anyone seen the pictures of ricky in training, he looks awesome, better than when he fought tsyzu. he certainly won't be the first to run out of steam. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on November 23, 2007, 04:24:23 PM He said he hasn't even seen the Tszyu fight, but then why would he bother?
He's the greatest. It doesn't matter what Hatton does, he's going to destroy him. pah ;nana; Come on Ricky Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Rooky9 on November 23, 2007, 04:36:17 PM The problem I have with this fight is that Hatton will have to win by a country mile in order to get any points decision. Anything close and it'll go with the home favourite.
Can Hatton either knock him out, or win by an undisputable margin. Probably not. I hope he does. But I just can't see it. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on November 23, 2007, 04:39:05 PM I agree.
Close is no good. saying that any biased judge who was a fan of Robinson or Ali might go the other way. Mayweather is hardly a loved figure over there and the crowd will be fairly well divided. would be nice to think the judging would be a fair representation of the action, but I won't hold my breath. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on November 23, 2007, 05:38:26 PM If they rob Hatton of a points victory, there'll be riots!
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on November 23, 2007, 08:19:42 PM If they rob Hatton of a points victory, there'll be riots! you're not joking. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on November 23, 2007, 09:24:29 PM Mayweather to win in 9 rounds.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Longy on November 23, 2007, 09:54:20 PM My first post on this thread I think, i want Hatton to win this fight more than any other fight i can remember. I don't think he will though Mayweather while being a complete tosser is an extrodrianly gifted boxer and i think he will just jab and dance for a good majority of the fight and will win on points.
I cannot see the fight being stopped either way. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on November 23, 2007, 10:12:08 PM One of the earliest fights I remember watching on telly with my Dad was the Lloyd Honeyghan fight against Don Curry.
Before the fight Honeyghan was given no chance against one of the 'pound-for-pound' stars of the day. Curry had made the same sort of disparaging remarks as Mayweather has been about Hatton. No one gave Honeyghan a sniff. But he won. Hatton is far less of an underdog that Honeyghan was, and if anyone can upset Mayweather - Hatton's got to be a good shot. As an aside, does anyone remember Honeyghan's first defence of his title? Start of round two he runs across the ring and hits the other fella (can't remember his name) as the bell goes - even though the other fighter wasn't completely off his stool! Think he was warned for this (and points taken off him possibly). But even though the other fighter was given time to 'recover', he didn't and the fight ended that round. I had a picture I'd cut out of a newspaper of Honeyghan on my wall (I was about ten or eleven at the time). I don't think Michelle would be happy if I had one of Hatton on the wall now, so I'll make do with the avatar! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on November 23, 2007, 10:20:57 PM Don Curry is hardly one of the greatest boxers of all time.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on November 23, 2007, 10:33:05 PM At the time that's what the talk was. Acclaimed as easily the best in the world. He held all the belts, and was destined to be a great.
Oh, and although Honeyghan was good, Hatton's much better. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on November 23, 2007, 10:42:44 PM At the time that's what the talk was. Acclaimed as easily the best in the world. He held all the belts, and was destined to be a great. Oh, and although Honeyghan was good, Hatton's much better. The only comparisons with this fight is one is British and the other is American. Don Curry held all the belts, but he was no-where near the class of Mayweather who already is an all time great. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on November 23, 2007, 10:45:44 PM At the time that's what the talk was. Acclaimed as easily the best in the world. He held all the belts, and was destined to be a great. Oh, and although Honeyghan was good, Hatton's much better. The only comparisons with this fight is one is British and the other is American. Don Curry held all the belts, but he was no-where near the class of Mayweather who already is an all time great. I'd also say that Honeyghan is nowhere near the class of Hatton. I wasn't saying they are identical, but the comparisons are obvious. Hope the result is the same. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on November 23, 2007, 10:51:01 PM Guzman versus Soto -for the WBO Super Feather title has just been on. Guzman completely outclassed the plucky Soto. Good fight though.
Hatton ariving in Vegas is on next - SS1. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on November 24, 2007, 12:37:52 PM One of the earliest fights I remember watching on telly with my Dad was the Lloyd Honeyghan fight against Don Curry. Before the fight Honeyghan was given no chance against one of the 'pound-for-pound' stars of the day. Curry had made the same sort of disparaging remarks as Mayweather has been about Hatton. No one gave Honeyghan a sniff. But he won. Hatton is far less of an underdog that Honeyghan was, and if anyone can upset Mayweather - Hatton's got to be a good shot. As an aside, does anyone remember Honeyghan's first defence of his title? Start of round two he runs across the ring and hits the other fella (can't remember his name) as the bell goes - even though the other fighter wasn't completely off his stool! Think he was warned for this (and points taken off him possibly). But even though the other fighter was given time to 'recover', he didn't and the fight ended that round. I had a picture I'd cut out of a newspaper of Honeyghan on my wall (I was about ten or eleven at the time). I don't think Michelle would be happy if I had one of Hatton on the wall now, so I'll make do with the avatar! i remember that, the bell had gone and he was still sitting down so he lamped him. fair enough. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on December 03, 2007, 12:24:55 AM Watched the first episode of Hatton/Mayweather 24/7 online tonight - pretty enjoyable. Can't find the 2nd one anywhere though.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: UpTheMariners on December 03, 2007, 03:52:50 AM Watched the first episode of Hatton/Mayweather 24/7 online tonight - pretty enjoyable. Can't find the 2nd one anywhere though. is this it? http://iiytr.blogspot.com/ Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on December 03, 2007, 02:33:03 PM Page not found mariners.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on December 03, 2007, 03:05:17 PM Anyone else have a link? Thought it would be available on HBO.com but can't find it there.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Rod Paradise on December 03, 2007, 04:52:23 PM Uncensored film of the Hatton press conference in Manchester - he's got a way with words (although his language meant Sky cut it for broadcast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH3ikFLibu4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH3ikFLibu4) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: UpTheMariners on December 03, 2007, 07:00:56 PM Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on December 03, 2007, 07:02:21 PM Just my luck Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Kaiser Soze on December 06, 2007, 07:31:25 PM Mayweather and Hatton nose to nose in the final press conference... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feWmEdKfFIU)
It looks like maybe Mayweather's bum is twitching. His explanation of events was lame IMHO. Hatton, on the other hand, looks like he knows he's got a job on and he isn't hiding. I hope he stiffs the loudmouth. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 06, 2007, 10:12:26 PM I still think Mayweather wins this but I do think Hatton has rattled him a bit.
Not long now Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: The Baron on December 07, 2007, 01:27:42 AM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.
For weeks I've been saying Mayweather will win this but in recent days my opinion has started to change to the point where I'm completely undecided. Something about Hatton's attitude has really caught my attention and I think Mayweather has been rattled. I see a lot of nervous evergy there. I dont ever remember Mayweather looking edgy before a fight and he does now. Very tough to call. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on December 07, 2007, 08:28:23 AM Come on Bazzaboy & Baron, BELIEVE.
Ricky Hatton has the tools and the mental attitude to win this fight. He is full of respect, but devoid of fear. A healthy combination. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: fergus8 on December 07, 2007, 08:43:05 AM heard someone say he thinks fm will win due to hatton being pulled due to face cuts.
is this a real concern? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: boldie on December 07, 2007, 08:58:12 AM I thought Mayweather would win this but lately I'm starting to think Hatton will rip Mayweather apart..don't know why and sure as hell won't have a bet on it but should be entertaining nonetheless :)
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on December 07, 2007, 09:15:56 AM heard someone say he thinks fm will win due to hatton being pulled due to face cuts. is this a real concern? Used to a big problem for Hatton earlier in his career. If Mayweather lands some cutting shots round his eyes, it's possible that he could cut. But the more recent cuts that Hatton has suffered have come from clashes of heads - and if he's that close to Mayweather - the fight will be going his way! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Graham C on December 07, 2007, 09:24:00 AM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on December 07, 2007, 09:25:06 AM Now De La Hoya is talking about fighting Hatton next Spring if/when he wins.
Heard De La Hoya talking about the fight, and he thinks Hatton will win. He said that he'd have beaten Mayweather if he'd been younger and at his peak, and he said that's exactly where Hatton is now and he has the tools to beat Mayweather. Don't know if that's him hedging his bets and securing more money from promoting/fighting with Hatton (if he wins), or if there is growing belief that Hatton could edge this one. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 07, 2007, 09:51:24 AM Honestly, i'm praying for hatton win, he can win but fm must be favourite and if i didn't care about the result i'd have to punt fm at the price.
Am going to a dodgy old boozer in manchester to watch it which should be quality. Ricky is less likely to cut nowadays, when he had surgery for previous cuts sustained in fights the surgeon did things (not sure exactly what) to make him less likely to cut in future and he hasn't cut since. He's also got older and his skin has toughened up naturally. Tsyzu was trying to cut him with butts and scrapes and he couldn't do it. i've punted ricky to win in the last 4 rounds for a bit of fun. I am so excited it's weird, i like the feeling of altogetherness and thats it's our boy over there and we all hope he does well. Ricky looks in supreme shape but but fm looks incredible to, should be an absolute classic regardless of result. come on ricky. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on December 07, 2007, 10:16:59 AM http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3013279.ece:
After nearly a week here in Las Vegas, anyone’s grasp on reality can slide a little. By fight night, we will be completely inured to the singular world-view of Uncle Roger Mayweather, so it is important we report it now. Uncle Roger is Floyd Mayweather’s trainer and his opinions are doubly notable. It is his view that Floyd is the best boxer in history. And he is firm in the conviction that he himself is the best trainer. He delivered these gems in the gym on Monday, he repeated them after the “Grand Arrival” on Tuesday and trotted them out at the press conference on Wednesday, too. On each occasion, his two-year-old son, Lehkie, was on his lap or directly in front of him, invariably shadow-boxing, executing combinations and body rolls like an expert. Uncle Roger says that Lehkie’s generation must find a different life path, through education and not the ring, but he would have a more reasonable claim if he told us that Lehkie was the best two-year-old in boxing history, too. Suffice it to say that he does not rate Ricky Hatton very highly. At the press conference, he opened by insisting that he did not have much to say. An exceedingly long while later, he had informed us that tomorrow night’s bout, for Floyd, will be like “picking up litter” and that Hatton has one chance of beating him and that is if he uses a stick. A “fishing pole” was the appropriate form of stick, he said. “After Saturday night,” he said, “you’ll all be saying: what guy can beat Floyd Mayweather Jr? Well maybe God can bring someone down from heaven.” It was only after he had begun to repeat himself that Hatton finally got the chance to use the microphone and he opened, hilariously, by saying: “First, I’d like to thank Roger for making the winter shorter.” For the record, there is not much in boxing history that Uncle Roger admires unless it comes with the name Mayweather attached. No surprise then that behind him in second place on the all-time best trainers’ list, he places his own brother, Floyd Sr. It is at one’s own risk that you venture the name of Angelo Dundee. “You ever seen him train Muhammad Ali?” he replies. “You ever seen him put on the hand-mits? He ain’t ever trained nobody. You ever saw him train Sugar Ray Leonard? He ain’t turned out s***. They were already good.” Also for the record, the one boxer-trainer team that he does hold up as a challenger to the Mayweather pedestal is Sugar Ray Robinson and his trainer, George Gainford. But Hatton? The following monologue is a little more on what he thinks of Hatton. “There are a million fighters better than Ricky Hatton. If Hatton was born over here, he would never have been s***. If he was born in my era, he would never have beaten anyone. He’s nothing but a club fighter. “How is the guy going to beat my nephew if he don’t even jab? You need a jab to get in, don’t you? Without a jab, how’s he even going to get close to my nephew? Tell him from me he needs to go buy one quick. Because Fight Night is going to be a f****** bloodbath, it’s going to be a Harlem massacre. He’s gonna need that plastic surgery again.” Hatton and plastic surgery is another of Mayweather’s favourite subjects (a reference to the work on cuts Hatton needed in two earlier bouts). He also likes to inform you that the best boxers in history have all come from the American North West (he is from Grand Rapids, Michigan) and that the reason his family is such a dynasty of boxing success is that you could “just sit around the house and grab boxing knowledge right there”. That is one interpretation. However, the repeated dysfunctional nature of the clan makes any success a headline. Floyd’s father did time for dealing drugs and his mother was an addict. His father was also shot in the leg by his uncle and Uncle Roger has served six months for striking his child’s grandmother. Note here that Roger believes he was the victim of injustice: “I went there for bulls***. I didn’t hit the woman, the woman hit me. Folks can go to jail for anything,” he said. But how this all applies itself to tomorrow night’s bout is fascinating. As the crowing trainer yacks on and on about the best in the world and the pending bloodbath, you wonder if Hatton is maybe right when he suggests that the Mayweather clan is guilty of underestimating him. For Uncle Roger is not engaged in any form of mind games or trickery here. His bragging has not been whistled up to dent the confidence of the Hattons. He seems to have bought into the entire message himself. Which makes you wonder at Floyd’s temperament and how he prevents the climate of narcissism from affecting his performance. Humility is a virtue in boxing as much as any sport, but if Floyd’s supply was already short, then his uncle is likely to coax the rest out of him. Which, of course, makes you wonder about Floyd, the secret of his glitteringly sustained success and why self-glorifying has not tripped him up before. The preposterous uncle, naturally, has the answer. “You can’t find a guy who does what I do with them mits,” he said. “You can’t find a guy who does what I do, period. I don’t even have to say I’m the best trainer in the world; I already know I am.” Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on December 07, 2007, 12:31:04 PM I am under the impression De La Hoya v Hatton is on, regardless of this weekends result.
That might be a better fight too. A right toe to toe brawl. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: boldie on December 07, 2007, 01:16:08 PM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly eciting fight. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: cia260895 on December 07, 2007, 01:17:46 PM I am under the impression De La Hoya v Hatton is on, regardless of this weekends result. de la hoya said he has 3 options for next fight Hatton/mayweather and someone else but Hatton De la hoya at wembley would fill it up.That might be a better fight too. A right toe to toe brawl. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on December 07, 2007, 01:28:05 PM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight. the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: boldie on December 07, 2007, 01:33:05 PM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight. the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up. yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on December 07, 2007, 01:36:07 PM I am under the impression De La Hoya v Hatton is on, regardless of this weekends result. de la hoya said he has 3 options for next fight Hatton/mayweather and someone else but Hatton De la hoya at wembley would fill it up.That might be a better fight too. A right toe to toe brawl. Yes, he said a rematch with Mayweather, Hatton, or Cotto were his options. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on December 07, 2007, 01:48:16 PM Cant see him fighting Mayweather again
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on December 07, 2007, 02:53:35 PM If you play for Liverpool, you can't see Hatton fight Mayweather!
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07122007/4/benitez-issues-hatton-ban.html Quote Steven Gerrard has told Ricky Hatton he has the backing of Liverpool for his world title fight - but the Reds star will not be able to watch the showdown with Floyd Mayweather himself. The Liverpool skipper, a big fight fan and a friend of Manchester City supporter Hatton, will be expected to be in bed on Sunday morning when the fight will be televised from Las Vegas. Liverpool will have played Reading in a 5.15pm kick-off at the Madejski Stadium on Saturday evening, and their return flight from Heathrow will not get them back on Merseyside until around 11pm. With another flight to Marseille early on Monday morning for their next Champions League game, boss Rafael Benitez wants his players well rested. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 07, 2007, 02:57:51 PM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight. the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up. yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match. no way this will be a tear up. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: boldie on December 07, 2007, 03:19:01 PM If you play for Liverpool, you can't see Hatton fight Mayweather! http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07122007/4/benitez-issues-hatton-ban.html Quote Steven Gerrard has told Ricky Hatton he has the backing of Liverpool for his world title fight - but the Reds star will not be able to watch the showdown with Floyd Mayweather himself. The Liverpool skipper, a big fight fan and a friend of Manchester City supporter Hatton, will be expected to be in bed on Sunday morning when the fight will be televised from Las Vegas. Liverpool will have played Reading in a 5.15pm kick-off at the Madejski Stadium on Saturday evening, and their return flight from Heathrow will not get them back on Merseyside until around 11pm. With another flight to Marseille early on Monday morning for their next Champions League game, boss Rafael Benitez wants his players well rested. Hatton doesn't give a crap..he support a real club ;) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on December 07, 2007, 03:38:48 PM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight. the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up. yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match. no way this will be a tear up. All Hatton fights are tear ups Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 07, 2007, 03:50:58 PM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight. the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up. yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match. no way this will be a tear up. All Hatton fights are tear ups myth Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: DaveShoelace on December 07, 2007, 03:53:36 PM heard someone say he thinks fm will win due to hatton being pulled due to face cuts. is this a real concern? Used to a big problem for Hatton earlier in his career. If Mayweather lands some cutting shots round his eyes, it's possible that he could cut. But the more recent cuts that Hatton has suffered have come from clashes of heads - and if he's that close to Mayweather - the fight will be going his way! The cutting is less of a problem these days because there was a chunk of vaseline underneath hattons skin above his eye, from a previous cut, which made his skin more tender - they've sortedthat now. Not that mayweather will ever get close enough for cuts to be a problem. I've followed Hatton since he was 19 and now I think he is potentially the best pressure fighter of all time. This could be the fight of the decade. Hatton to win on points by a lanslide for me. If he loses, I reckon he could always get work as a compere on the working mans club circuit. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on December 07, 2007, 03:54:12 PM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight. the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up. yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match. no way this will be a tear up. All Hatton fights are tear ups myth Myth?, this is my personal opinion based on the ricky hatton fights ive watched(probably about 3/4 of all his fights). Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: kinboshi on December 07, 2007, 03:55:32 PM Mayweather was critical of Hatton, saying he doesn't have a jab - and that means he has no chance. Hatton can box, he can fight behind the jab - he did so against Eamonn Magee when he was put on his backside. In fact, he fought very well in that fight and showed he cna move to plan B when plan A doesn't work. He's certainly not a one-dimensional brawler.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 07, 2007, 04:00:33 PM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight. the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up. yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match. no way this will be a tear up. All Hatton fights are tear ups myth Myth?, this is my personal opinion based on the ricky hatton fights ive watched(probably about 3/4 of all his fights). You missed his cuddlefest with Urango I take it? Had you said most I'd have agreed with you ;) I don't think this will be a tear up either. Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: boldie on December 07, 2007, 04:06:46 PM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight. the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up. yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match. no way this will be a tear up. All Hatton fights are tear ups myth Myth?, this is my personal opinion based on the ricky hatton fights ive watched(probably about 3/4 of all his fights). Ah you give up 3/4 of the way through his fights as well, eh? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 07, 2007, 04:24:04 PM I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it. Know how you feel. At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years. I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these. Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question....... I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight. the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up. yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match. no way this will be a tear up. All Hatton fights are tear ups myth Myth?, this is my personal opinion based on the ricky hatton fights ive watched(probably about 3/4 of all his fights). You missed his cuddlefest with Urango I take it? Had you said most I'd have agreed with you ;) I don't think this will be a tear up either. Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. I reckonthere will be a mild tear up in the first and probably again somewhere round the 5th when FM gets weary of getting mauled on the ropes and having his angles cut off to get away from the ropes. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on December 07, 2007, 04:33:23 PM Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 07, 2007, 04:41:16 PM The more I think about this fight the more I struggle to think of a way Hatton can win this.
I can't see him stopping him as Hatton relies on accumulation of punches rather than KO punch. Mayweather is very elusive and a defensive master so I can't see Hatton being able to exert the necessary pressure to put Mayweather in trouble. Added to that Mayweather has been fighting the best around for years and has rarely been in trouble never mind stopped. I also can't see him gaining a points win over Mayweather either. His lack of head movement means he will have to eat Mayweather's jab all night long..the accumulation of these jabs could take their toll. Mayweather is also adept at fighting on the inside, although I do think he will try and keep Hatton at range for the majority of the fight. Mayweather is not a huge puncher at welter either but he is definetly not a "light puncher" which I often hear him described as, so I don't think Hatton will be able to keep walking through his punches all night long. A late stoppage win (possibly on cuts) or comfortable points win for Mayweather. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 07, 2007, 04:42:35 PM Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs) We shall see. Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 07, 2007, 04:49:20 PM Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs) We shall see. Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you. it does, a lot, seeing a ferocious rampaging beast snarling and barking with every punch for 12 rounds is intimidating. there is no way hatton will sit at the end of mayweathers jab for the fight, he's certain lose if he does and he's never ever done it any fight before. hattons chin is granite so he will just keep coming through it. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on December 07, 2007, 04:58:00 PM Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs) We shall see. Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you. the snarling and barking interupts you at a primal level. That noise he makes when he delivers his shot makes a BIG difference. Hattons doesn't have a lack of head movement at all He has doesn't rely on an accumulation of shots. Early in his career he was destroying lesser fighters with those body shots. He finished Castillo with a body shot. It wasn't the only one he threw, but it was a knockdown shot in isolation. Mayweather is good on the inside, but not as good as Hatton, and if he tries to stay there, he's in trouble It seems like you are trying really hard NOT to see a way Hatton can win. Bazza. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 07, 2007, 05:02:01 PM Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs) We shall see. Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you. it does, a lot, seeing a ferocious rampaging beast snarling and barking with every punch for 12 rounds is intimidating. there is no way hatton will sit at the end of mayweathers jab for the fight, he's certain lose if he does and he's never ever done it any fight before. hattons chin is granite so he will just keep coming through it. Hardly granite if Collazo can have him rocking and rolling. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 07, 2007, 05:10:36 PM Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs) We shall see. Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you. the snarling and barking interupts you at a primal level. That noise he makes when he delivers his shot makes a BIG difference. Hattons doesn't have a lack of head movement at all He has doesn't rely on an accumulation of shots. Early in his career he was destroying lesser fighters with those body shots. He finished Castillo with a body shot. It wasn't the only one he threw, but it was a knockdown shot in isolation. Mayweather is good on the inside, but not as good as Hatton, and if he tries to stay there, he's in trouble It seems like you are trying really hard NOT to see a way Hatton can win. Bazza. Merely trying to look at the fight objectively. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 07, 2007, 05:36:44 PM Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs) We shall see. Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you. it does, a lot, seeing a ferocious rampaging beast snarling and barking with every punch for 12 rounds is intimidating. there is no way hatton will sit at the end of mayweathers jab for the fight, he's certain lose if he does and he's never ever done it any fight before. hattons chin is granite so he will just keep coming through it. Hardly granite if Collazo can have him rocking and rolling. that fight was not rickys best, in preperation or execution. He took several shots square on the chin from the hardest puncher in these divisions and only one gave him any trouble and that was for a split second. Mayweather will keep him at range with his jab. No he won't. I'm sure that's the plan, but he won't Ricky is going to snarl and bark, lean on, drive the body shots in and break Mayweathers heart (and ribs) We shall see. Not sure what good the snarling and barking will do mind you. the snarling and barking interupts you at a primal level. That noise he makes when he delivers his shot makes a BIG difference. Hattons doesn't have a lack of head movement at all He has doesn't rely on an accumulation of shots. Early in his career he was destroying lesser fighters with those body shots. He finished Castillo with a body shot. It wasn't the only one he threw, but it was a knockdown shot in isolation. Mayweather is good on the inside, but not as good as Hatton, and if he tries to stay there, he's in trouble It seems like you are trying really hard NOT to see a way Hatton can win. Bazza. Merely trying to look at the fight objectively. i know that FM is a great fighter but saturday night won't be half as much fun if i haven't got any hope for our man winning, hence trying to see where his advantage lies. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 07, 2007, 05:53:41 PM I should add that I will be more than happy to admit I got it wrong if Hatton pulls off one of the greatest achievements ever by a British sportsman.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 07, 2007, 10:19:09 PM Phenomenal atmosphere....and thats just for the weigh in ;gobsmacked;
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 07, 2007, 10:48:28 PM Hatton 145
PBF 147 Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: fergus8 on December 08, 2007, 01:42:04 AM what about a draw?
26-1 odds surely the judges will draw the game if they can, thier already thinking of the rematch money Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on December 08, 2007, 09:37:01 AM i know that FM is a great fyp Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 08, 2007, 10:23:50 AM i know that FM is a great fyp true, noted. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Rooky9 on December 08, 2007, 11:17:14 AM I woke up last night after a dream in which Hatton won on points, thought he was fighting Shane Mosely in that. Nevertheless, I've taken it as a omen and turned from my previous of thinking that he can't win tonight!!!
Can't wait! Come on Ricky!! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 08, 2007, 11:55:27 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCVvVYLY1E
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ifm on December 08, 2007, 01:00:21 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCVvVYLY1E Wicked, just put that on my phone. thanks Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 08, 2007, 01:27:14 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCVvVYLY1E Wicked, just put that on my phone. thanks excellent idea Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Woodsey on December 08, 2007, 03:07:44 PM I LOL'ed at this typical american BS talk..........
Floyd's trainer and uncle Roger Mayweather: "Floyd's going to season his ass. He's going to put salt on it, then pepper, then he's going to stick him in the grill. Burn, baby, burn. I'll be seeing you soon." Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: portfolio on December 08, 2007, 03:10:40 PM anyone point me to decent odds on hatton please??
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Colchester Kev on December 08, 2007, 03:11:24 PM I dont have sky, i dont have cable .... anywhere i can watch this on tinternet ??
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: booder on December 08, 2007, 03:14:35 PM I dont have sky, i dont have cable .... anywhere i can watch this on tinternet ?? Nem said that he would post a streaming link Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: GlasgowBandit on December 08, 2007, 03:16:59 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCVvVYLY1E Wicked, just put that on my phone. thanks What you using to convert files from youtube to mobile? Ohh aye and come on Ricky lad! I can't see him winning but I so hope I am wrong. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 08, 2007, 03:28:24 PM anyone point me to decent odds on hatton please?? betfair best price Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: fergus8 on December 08, 2007, 08:26:27 PM in such a close fight, why are the draw odds so high????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: scotty2hatty on December 08, 2007, 08:32:16 PM One Time Hatton
He's a pretty big price to win on points just now - me and the boys have a decent bet on! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Graham C on December 08, 2007, 08:35:34 PM Getting excited now, not long to go. I bet it's a bit nervous waiting around for Ricky and FM,
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 08, 2007, 08:37:15 PM Getting excited now, not long to go. I bet it's a bit nervous waiting around for Ricky and FM, because draws are very rare in boxing Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: boldie on December 08, 2007, 08:38:32 PM Getting excited now, not long to go. I bet it's a bit nervous waiting around for Ricky and FM, because draws are very rare in boxing especially when one of the guys is fighting at home :) Can't wait for the fight :) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: fergus8 on December 08, 2007, 08:42:32 PM well ive got my 10er on it
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: boldie on December 08, 2007, 08:44:47 PM my money is on Ricky to win in rounds 7-9.
After the PLO game I'm gonna watch Rocky in a build up to the fight :) :) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on December 08, 2007, 08:49:43 PM Getting excited now, not long to go. I bet it's a bit nervous waiting around for Ricky and FM, because draws are very rare in boxing especially when one of the guys is fighting at home :) Can't wait for the fight :) you could be mistaken for thinking Hatton was at home, a lot of the American public ive seen interviewed seem to warm to Hattons down to earth demeanour as opposed to Mayweathers sometimes coarse ostentation plus he's got the biggest travelling support Ive ever seen and when those manchester boys start singing it'll be like the fights in england. If it goes to points and it's close i think it will be a draw, can you imagine a billion dollar undefeated rematch, i think the Judges will be well aware of the financial implications it could have and have been schooled on the possibility, i know frank warren used to take good care of the judges in the fights he promotes, top hotels for when they arrive etc and imagine its the same in America, i think the de la hoya fight was different because he probably didn't have a rematch in him and was already beaten but with both fighters undefeated if it's close and on points i think the Judges would have been influenced by every pre eminent boxing figure that would benefit from a rematch(biggest fight in history probably) thus i think the 24/1 on betfair is huge and worth an interest at least. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: fergus8 on December 08, 2007, 08:53:03 PM i agree
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: boldie on December 08, 2007, 08:53:48 PM This is gonna be great. 30k brits coming over hahahaha and Mayweather won't know what hit him with all those guys out there.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Graham C on December 08, 2007, 09:03:56 PM my money is on Ricky to win in rounds 7-9. Like this too, have had some myself. Come on Lad, get it won! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 08, 2007, 09:09:55 PM Big bet onMayweather to win at 1.64
Smaller bet on Mayweather to win by KO TKO or DQ at 5.6 Both way overpriced Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Kaiser Soze on December 08, 2007, 09:28:43 PM I can't disagree with your logic. However, listen to Uncle Roger and 'Money' himself and I can't back them, they chat too much shit. Hatton DOES have him if he plays the right game. I hope he does him, and I can't bring myself to bet against him.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 08, 2007, 10:00:45 PM Khan worth a small lay as well. Would be a big lay if Earl wasn't also a Warren fighter.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: boldie on December 08, 2007, 10:02:46 PM I can't disagree with your logic. However, listen to Uncle Roger and 'Money' himself and I can't back them, they chat too much shit. Hatton DOES have him if he plays the right game. I hope he does him, and I can't bring myself to bet against him. Hatton has been hilarious in the pre-match build-up...one more reason why I want him to win. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: thetank on December 08, 2007, 10:13:37 PM stick a fork in him
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 08, 2007, 10:19:55 PM Khan worth a small lay as well. Would be a big lay if Earl wasn't also a Warren fighter. oops. long way from the finished article but he's got some proper power for that division. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Graham C on December 08, 2007, 10:25:25 PM that Khan fight was a bit special!
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 08, 2007, 10:25:53 PM Khan worth a small lay as well. Would be a big lay if Earl wasn't also a Warren fighter. oops. long way from the finished article but he's got some proper power for that division. Earl shouldn't have been allowed in the ring. His punch resistance has gone. Nice finish from Khan though. I will still be happy to lay him at long odds on every time he steps in the ring with someone who can bang. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Graham C on December 08, 2007, 10:28:28 PM lol Earl not stopping would have been crazy.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ifm on December 08, 2007, 10:31:05 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCVvVYLY1E Wicked, just put that on my phone. thanks What you using to convert files from youtube to mobile? Ohh aye and come on Ricky lad! I can't see him winning but I so hope I am wrong. http://vixy.net/ Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 09, 2007, 02:20:13 AM Best prediction on the BBC website.
"Ricky to get beaten on a controversial points decision. Ricky's missus gets her job in pet store back. Ricky wins rematch despite initial reticence and potential blindness issues. Ricky buys robot for his brother-in-law and loses to bloke from Snickers ad. Mayweather becomes Ricky's trainer. They run on the beach. Ricky ends cold war. I missed the fifth one. Ricky beats a computer." Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: celtic on December 09, 2007, 02:23:35 AM i fancy a draw... everyones a winner, big re-match loads of hype etc.....
Don't know much about boxing. But am struggling to see Hatton win this. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 02:31:28 AM The above link is HBO coverage and is perfect. Open sopcast and paste sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/35999 into the sopcast address bar
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: brad.strider on December 09, 2007, 03:07:41 AM The above link is HBO coverage and is perfect. Open sopcast and paste sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/35999 into the sopcast address bar this is the one im watching, good quality!Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AlexMartin on December 09, 2007, 03:55:47 AM The above link is HBO coverage and is perfect. Open sopcast and paste sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/35999 into the sopcast address bar Sry Nem im being thick but i cant get the coverage. Do i need to sign up to sopcat 1st? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 04:01:01 AM The above link is HBO coverage and is perfect. Open sopcast and paste sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/35999 into the sopcast address bar Sry Nem im being thick but i cant get the coverage. Do i need to sign up to sopcat 1st? download sopcast.org latest version then install, the copy and paste the link Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Graham C on December 09, 2007, 04:24:18 AM LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: celtic on December 09, 2007, 04:27:39 AM yeah good shout graham.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OlauD8Pcvc8 Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AlexMartin on December 09, 2007, 04:28:27 AM Thanks Nem. Lets get ready for a yank spank.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Graham C on December 09, 2007, 04:29:00 AM ha ha quality :D
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: totalise on December 09, 2007, 04:29:31 AM cmon Ricky, I cant wait for this.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: totalise on December 09, 2007, 04:40:40 AM i wish the english fans would stop booing when other nations national anthem was sung, its so pathetic, happens all the time.
cmon hatton! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: brad.strider on December 09, 2007, 04:41:01 AM tom jones owned that useless twat!!!
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Graham C on December 09, 2007, 04:41:13 AM they didn't look impressed with all the boo's
Can't say I am either, never liked that Come on Ricky! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 09, 2007, 04:42:10 AM Some of the boneheads couldnt spell respect never mind show it.
At least the waiting is almost over Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: totalise on December 09, 2007, 04:44:03 AM boo the american national anthem and cheer when they see beckham, unreal! IQ over 10 and it should be the other way round.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Graham C on December 09, 2007, 04:46:57 AM Are the two lads with FM his kids?
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 04:47:45 AM boo the american national anthem and cheer when they see beckham, unreal! IQ over 10 and it should be the other way round. National anthems_LOL Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: brad.strider on December 09, 2007, 04:48:19 AM C,MON RICKY!!!
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Graham C on December 09, 2007, 04:49:38 AM LOL Can't believe the hostile reception for FM, in his own town LOL
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: celtic on December 09, 2007, 04:50:53 AM am watching it on five live..... sounds good lol!!!
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: totalise on December 09, 2007, 04:54:23 AM first round hatton, so far so good!
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 05:16:44 AM T
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/24267 sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/33767 Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Colchester Kev on December 09, 2007, 05:24:22 AM not looking good ...
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: totalise on December 09, 2007, 05:26:58 AM cheers Nem
and Kev, I agree, that last round was a killer :( Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 05:28:40 AM He is not strong enough.
He has two rounds to knock him out. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 05:29:30 AM Completely owned.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: brad.strider on December 09, 2007, 05:31:25 AM Completely owned. yepTitle: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: totalise on December 09, 2007, 05:32:11 AM he kept him in for a long time, just got outclassed. boooooo
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 09, 2007, 05:32:23 AM Never in doubt.
The man is on a different planet. Great effort from Hatton but Mayweather is something special Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 05:35:18 AM Hatton looks weak at the Welterweight level and he should stick to Light Welter and fight Cotto next.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: totalise on December 09, 2007, 05:35:43 AM this guy thanks the UK fans and they start booing, dispicable.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: brad.strider on December 09, 2007, 05:43:09 AM had a score on mayweather to win between 7-9@12/1 double gutted
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: totalise on December 09, 2007, 05:46:27 AM sick, ul brad
Mayweathers interview was pure class, really surprised and impressed me... very contrite and warm. Hattons was a bit disappointing... still, good fight, very enjoyable. Best boxer won. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AlexMartin on December 09, 2007, 05:49:56 AM sick, ul brad Mayweathers interview was pure class, really surprised and impressed me... very contrite and warm. Hattons was a bit disappointing... still, good fight, very enjoyable. Best boxer won. Very suprised at this. Hatton was suprisingly bitter whilst MW showed his class. Cracking ko. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 09, 2007, 05:51:55 AM Hatton looks weak at the Welterweight level and he should stick to Light Welter and fight Cotto next. Cotto is at welter now (and looks twice the fighter he was) and would eat him. Hatton should definetly drop back down though, he is a natural light-welter and is a class apart in that division, which admittedly is weak at the minute. All the "money" fights are at welter (Cotto, Williams, Mosley) but I don't think he would beat any of them, largely due to the size difference, and the lack of head movement. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Longy on December 09, 2007, 05:55:29 AM Fair play to Mayweather a deserved winner and surely now has to be considered one of the all time greats.
As for Hatton he tried his best but was simply outclassed, I actually hope he retires. What more does he need to prove, surely he has made enough out of the game and no doubt has the potential to go into media work given his personality. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 05:57:15 AM Well PBF will retire now undefeated 5 weight multi belt champion of the world.
He has to be up there in the top[ 10 of all time. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 05:59:29 AM Fair play to Mayweather a deserved winner and surely now has to be considered one of the all time greats. As for Hatton he tried his best but was simply outclassed, I actually hope he retires. What more does he need to prove, surely he has made enough out of the game and no doubt has the potential to go into media work given his personality. The Witter fight is too big to turn down. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 06:10:12 AM Hatton looks weak at the Welterweight level and he should stick to Light Welter and fight Cotto next. Cotto is at welter now (and looks twice the fighter he was) and would eat him. Hatton should definetly drop back down though, he is a natural light-welter and is a class apart in that division, which admittedly is weak at the minute. All the "money" fights are at welter (Cotto, Williams, Mosley) but I don't think he would beat any of them, largely due to the size difference, and the lack of head movement. Maybe Cotto would drop down to face Hatton? Wishful thinking;) Yeah Williams or Cotto next for PBF. Maybe have both of them fight him at the same time... ;) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 09, 2007, 06:14:56 AM Hatton looks weak at the Welterweight level and he should stick to Light Welter and fight Cotto next. Cotto is at welter now (and looks twice the fighter he was) and would eat him. Hatton should definetly drop back down though, he is a natural light-welter and is a class apart in that division, which admittedly is weak at the minute. All the "money" fights are at welter (Cotto, Williams, Mosley) but I don't think he would beat any of them, largely due to the size difference, and the lack of head movement. Maybe Cotto would drop down to face Hatton? Wishful thinking;) Yeah Williams or Cotto next for PBF. Maybe have both of them fight him at the same time... ;) I don't think we will see Mayweather again although I hope I'm wrong. Cotto would give him a very very hard night...dunno if he will fancy taking the risk. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Bazzaboy on December 09, 2007, 06:19:05 AM Fair play to Mayweather a deserved winner and surely now has to be considered one of the all time greats. As for Hatton he tried his best but was simply outclassed, I actually hope he retires. What more does he need to prove, surely he has made enough out of the game and no doubt has the potential to go into media work given his personality. The Witter fight is too big to turn down. Agreed. Seems the obvious route for him to go Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: taximan007 on December 09, 2007, 08:42:04 AM Mayweather-different class
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: matt674 on December 09, 2007, 09:20:10 AM Mayweather-different class agreed - didnt help that hatton was fighting against two opponents for most of the early rounds but at the end of the day i dont think it would have made much difference to the overall outcome, Mayweather was by far the better of the two - Hatton never really seemed to have his usual power to trouble him Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Karabiner on December 09, 2007, 10:58:40 AM I have always maintained that Hatton is a far tougher proposition at light-welter, rather than welter.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on December 09, 2007, 03:03:26 PM Mayweather, absolute class, inside and outside the ring.
Anyone who knows anything about the mechanics of boxing knows that Mayweather was just selling the fight and i wouldn't be surprised if hatton and mayweather were in close contact at times during the build up to look at how the advertising campaign was going. Anyone in doubt of this only need to watch the press conference after where mayweather introduced hatton as a true champion and had genuine tears in his eyes. 8/13 on betfair was laughable about mayweather and i think although i, like many, wanted Hatton to do the business mayweathers so far in front of hatton i just couldn't envisage a way Hatton could negate the imperious boxing skills and speed of mayweather and found that the average sports fan in the build up to this, not having seen many mayweather fights, got caught up in the hatton hype and started tipping hatton up but nearly every proper boxing enthusiast i know looked at this like they would Arsenal at home to watford, very simple to read and ludicrous value at 8/13. Mayweather definitely one of the top 10 boxers of all time. As for Hatton i cant see a fight with de la hoya, the boxing public will look at the fight and say "whats the point"? well the point for Hatton and de la hoya is the money, but where would either go after and would that fight between boxer and his promoter be a credible platform from which the winner could get another shot at mayweather or one of the other welterweight big boys, Hatton cant perform at that weight and de la hoyas not looking for titles or glory anymore at his age, just a pay day, it would be two guys fighting eachother who couldnt live with mayweather and nothing at stake. IMO Hatton has to fight witter, It would be a cracking fight to watch and would genuinely galvanise hattons ambition as opposed to a possible 12 round public sparring session against his promoter. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: lazaroonie on December 09, 2007, 03:15:39 PM this guy thanks the UK fans and they start booing, dispicable. I used to go to quite a few boxing shows, until a few years ago, when I noticed more and more the crowd seemed to be made up of what seemed like football hooligans. Last night was a disgrace. Booing the anthem, booing mayweather, these people were complete morons. Were any of them there to watch the actual boxing, or just an opportunity to inflict their boorish drunken behaviour on everyone else. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ifm on December 09, 2007, 03:21:15 PM this guy thanks the UK fans and they start booing, dispicable. Were any of them there to watch the actual boxing Considering the difficulty to get the tickets most of them had to be connected with boxing in some way or other. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on December 09, 2007, 03:25:12 PM Exactly wrong. There is no way Mayweather wins this comfortably. :)up Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on December 09, 2007, 03:25:41 PM There is also no way he stops Hatton easily. ::) Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on December 09, 2007, 03:27:10 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 09, 2007, 03:32:11 PM one of the most consumate displays of boxing i've ever seen. Everything was perfect from mayweather.
Dropping lower so hatton couldn't avoid the jab on the way in (he took a shot almost every time he did), when hatton finally took risks to run round that jab mayweather stood up and delivered perfect punches, how ricky stayed up from that straight right is beyond me and that left hook was genius. The angle of his body to deny the body shots and every time ricky looked to step back to off load he got smashed and then FM got out of there which took away his greatest asset, i think i said earlier in this thread that when de la hoya had him on the ropes he never threw body shots and ricky would but he did the same but only because mayweather wouldn't let him. ricky had no plan b and was to reckless but i don't think he could have won whatever he did. Mayweather is definately an all time great, fantastic boxer. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 09, 2007, 03:33:03 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; sad little man.... Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 03:33:42 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; wow what a golden quote that is! Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: bolt pp on December 09, 2007, 03:35:06 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; sad little man.... calm down, it's an adults forum, i'm winding you up, if you cant take a bit of stick go and play world of warcaraft or something. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 09, 2007, 03:35:40 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; wow what a golden quote that is! i take it on the chin fellas, mayweather was incredible and picked hatton to pieces then destroyed him. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 03:38:15 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; wow what a golden quote that is! i take it on the chin fellas, mayweather was incredible and picked hatton to pieces then destroyed him. Fair play. Now where is AdamM and Kinboshi! :D Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 09, 2007, 03:38:21 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; sad little man.... wow Tommy why the flame? Take it on the chin. You post was wrong and you have to deal with it. hmm, i accept i was wrong but what type of wanker trawls back through a massive thread to bump a post in an attempt to make someone look stupid. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 03:39:17 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; sad little man.... wow Tommy why the flame? Take it on the chin. You post was wrong and you have to deal with it. hmm, i accept i was wrong but what type of wanker trawls back through a massive thread to bump a post in an attempt to make someone look stupid. Plenty of people do. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 09, 2007, 03:43:26 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; sad little man.... wow Tommy why the flame? Take it on the chin. You post was wrong and you have to deal with it. hmm, i accept i was wrong but what type of wanker trawls back through a massive thread to bump a post in an attempt to make someone look stupid. Plenty of people do. i was going to apologise for that post, but now i stand by it. what a wanker. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 04:06:26 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; sad little man.... wow Tommy why the flame? Take it on the chin. You post was wrong and you have to deal with it. hmm, i accept i was wrong but what type of wanker trawls back through a massive thread to bump a post in an attempt to make someone look stupid. Plenty of people do. i was going to apologise for that post, but now i stand by it. what a wanker. I think that if you get on with the individual in question, then it is ok and its banter (http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=25355.15) Everyones different though. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Gryff on December 09, 2007, 04:14:19 PM Only one question.
Why was Billy Conolly commentating? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: AdamM on December 09, 2007, 05:41:37 PM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; wow what a golden quote that is! i take it on the chin fellas, mayweather was incredible and picked hatton to pieces then destroyed him. Fair play. Now where is AdamM and Kinboshi! :D Here I am. Hatton did himself proud. Certainly did enough to prove he deserved to be in the same ring. Mayweather had 4 massive rounds and won the fight fair. Cortez was a disgrace, but if Hatton has too much class to blame the refereeing, I'm not going to dwell on it. Picking out quotes about Mayweather beating Hatton easily is silly, as he didn't. Mayweather showed more humility post fight than I expected, but I maintain, what's said stays said and I still hate trash talkers. I disagree about Hatton post fight. I thought he was obviously disapointed. He knows it was the biggest night of his career and he thought he could have done better. I'm not given to hero worship, but of the two, Hatton is still the man I'd most aspire to be like. Bitterly disapointedfor the guy. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: brad.strider on December 09, 2007, 05:42:25 PM Only one question. apparantly billy went for a hatton victory as well, he knows fuck all about boxing either!Why was Billy Conolly commentating? Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Nem on December 09, 2007, 05:48:54 PM Picking out quotes about Mayweather beating Hatton easily is silly, as he didn't. I'm sorry Adam, but some people had Hatton at least 6 points behind and Hatton was 'saved by the bell' in the 9th. Hatton was knocked out. He was beaten and quite convincingly imo. Dan Rafael: 89-81 Harold Lederman: 86-84 Boxingscene.com: 87-83 Fighthype.com: 88-82 Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: boldie on December 09, 2007, 06:25:41 PM Picking out quotes about Mayweather beating Hatton easily is silly, as he didn't. I'm sorry Adam, but some people had Hatton at least 6 points behind and Hatton was 'saved by the bell' in the 9th. Hatton was knocked out. He was beaten and quite convincingly imo. Dan Rafael: 89-81 Harold Lederman: 86-84 Boxingscene.com: 87-83 Fighthype.com: 88-82 I'd agree with that..Hatton couldn't do anything to hurt..or even hit..Mayweather. He was completely outclassed and at no stage did he look likely to win the fight. The ref was crap..but not the reason why Hatton lost the fight. Bolt called it before the fight..Mayweather was 5x better than Hatton. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: The Baron on December 09, 2007, 10:07:39 PM I'm gutted for Hatton and whilst there's a lot of talk (rightly) for Hatton to move back to light-welter he'd still have lost to Mayweather at any weight. The guy is just class.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: Rooky9 on December 09, 2007, 10:13:55 PM I'd like to see him move to the Enzo Calzage camp and go from there. Although to be honest I don't really see where the motivation is to go back to light welter or fight at a higher weight where he isn't comfortable.
Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: redimp on December 09, 2007, 10:51:35 PM I just think mayweathers different mustard and hattons never fought anyone with such a Superior technical boxing prowess, hatton can ruck and hes fought brawlers and champions but he hasn't fought someone with such an delectably insightfull application of boxing exuberance tempered with unparalleled flair and control, hes a unique figher that you just cant prepare for, he has all the attributes to adapt to whatever style of opponent he faces, he's one of the few fighters in history who isn't constrained by a style of his own but retains a laudable versatility that allows him to dominate fights in a polarised contrast of aggression and prudence he will out box Ricky comfortably ;tightend; ;tightend; ;tightend; From about page 5 I think Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: thetank on December 10, 2007, 02:20:34 AM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; sad little man.... wow Tommy why the flame? Take it on the chin. You post was wrong and you have to deal with it. hmm, i accept i was wrong but what type of wanker trawls back through a massive thread to bump a post in an attempt to make someone look stupid. Plenty of people do. I do all the time. Would do so more often, but I'm rarely correct. Title: Re: hatton v mayweather Post by: ACE2M on December 10, 2007, 09:22:08 AM sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. ;carlocitrone; sad little man.... wow Tommy why the flame? Take it on the chin. You post was wrong and you have to deal with it. hmm, i accept i was wrong but what type of wanker trawls back through a massive thread to bump a post in an attempt to make someone look stupid. Plenty of people do. I do all the time. Would do so more often, but I'm rarely correct. thats been sorted. i was a bit techy yesterday. |