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Colchester Kev
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Re: hatton v mayweather
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Reply #120 on:
October 03, 2007, 11:08:31 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on October 03, 2007, 11:01:38 PM
Quote from: thediceman on October 03, 2007, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: Nemesis on September 28, 2007, 07:59:41 PM
Mayweather is the ultimate
boxer
not fighter. He will box Ricky and win quite comfortably.
Don Currie was regarded as the best pound for pound boxer on the plant and everybody thought he would comfortably win against Lloyd Honeyghan.
What a night that was!!! One of the best fights I've ever seen. Pure brilliant.
As an aside, they're lining up Dida to face either Julius Francis or Audrey Harrison...
Neither of those 2 would put Dida on his arse
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Re: hatton v mayweather
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October 03, 2007, 11:24:26 PM »
Quote from: Colchester Kev on October 03, 2007, 11:08:31 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on October 03, 2007, 11:01:38 PM
Quote from: thediceman on October 03, 2007, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: Nemesis on September 28, 2007, 07:59:41 PM
Mayweather is the ultimate
boxer
not fighter. He will box Ricky and win quite comfortably.
Don Currie was regarded as the best pound for pound boxer on the plant and everybody thought he would comfortably win against Lloyd Honeyghan.
What a night that was!!! One of the best fights I've ever seen. Pure brilliant.
As an aside, they're lining up Dida to face either Julius Francis or Audrey Harrison...
Neither of those 2 would put Dida on his arse
Neither did Muhammad Ali
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Re: hatton v mayweather
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October 05, 2007, 10:37:36 PM »
sorry fellas. but all you who just say mayweather is the best fighter and going to destroy hatton know nothing about boxing. you have to recognise that hatton is a top quality fighter and will not be beaten easily. i accept that mayweather is a top top fighter but shold he lose here his legacy will be destroyred and there is a definite chence he will be.
i am a bookmaker and look at the odds available, much stronger favourites have been beaten by far less talented fighters than hatton. Hatton is incrediblebly strong and his stamina is incredible for the fighting style he employs. He may lose but there is no way you will see him 'taught a lesson', 'embaressed' or 'destroyred' etc. pay for your pay per view and get ready to shout yourself mad on the night because there is a better chance then you realise that our boy could acheive the greatest feat by a british boxer ever.
come on ricky.
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Re: hatton v mayweather
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October 05, 2007, 10:40:58 PM »
Nice post.
What are your thoughts on the odds on Barrera?
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October 05, 2007, 10:52:44 PM »
I just think mayweathers different mustard and hattons never fought anyone with such a Superior technical boxing prowess, hatton can ruck and hes fought brawlers and champions but he hasn't fought someone with such an delectably insightfull application of boxing exuberance tempered with unparalleled flair and control, hes a unique figher that you just cant prepare for, he has all the attributes to adapt to whatever style of opponent he faces, he's one of the few fighters in history who isn't constrained by a style of his own but retains a laudable versatility that allows him to dominate fights in a polarised contrast of aggression and prudence
he will out box Ricky comfortably
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Re: hatton v mayweather
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October 05, 2007, 11:43:30 PM »
Quote from: bolt pp on October 05, 2007, 10:52:44 PM
I just think mayweathers different mustard and hattons never fought anyone with such a Superior technical boxing prowess, hatton can ruck and hes fought brawlers and champions but he hasn't fought someone with such an delectably insightfull application of boxing exuberance tempered with unparalleled flair and control, hes a unique figher that you just cant prepare for, he has all the attributes to adapt to whatever style of opponent he faces, he's one of the few fighters in history who isn't constrained by a style of his own but retains a laudable versatility that allows him to dominate fights in a polarised contrast of aggression and prudence
he will out box Ricky comfortably
You said he's stop him easily.
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October 05, 2007, 11:51:51 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on October 05, 2007, 11:43:30 PM
Quote from: bolt pp on October 05, 2007, 10:52:44 PM
I just think mayweathers different mustard and hattons never fought anyone with such a Superior technical boxing prowess, hatton can ruck and hes fought brawlers and champions but he hasn't fought someone with such an delectably insightfull application of boxing exuberance tempered with unparalleled flair and control, hes a unique figher that you just cant prepare for, he has all the attributes to adapt to whatever style of opponent he faces, he's one of the few fighters in history who isn't constrained by a style of his own but retains a laudable versatility that allows him to dominate fights in a polarised contrast of aggression and prudence
he will out box Ricky comfortably
You said he's stop him easily.
you actually read the shit i post? it's friday night, go out.
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October 06, 2007, 10:53:02 AM »
win or lose, this will be mayweathers most uncomfortable night in the ring of his career.
Hatton is very respectful of mayweathers skills and takes the fight very seriously but he doesn't believe the hype. he knows he has the tools to beats him.
he is physically stronger than mayweather.
he has unparralleled cardio (he is capable of putting it
15
1st rounds)
he has the capability to alter his style tactically and will have plans A,B & C at least.
he hasn't got a huge ego riding on the result of the fight.
if mayweather loses this fight his unbeaten 'legacy' is gone. every disrespectful word he's said about hatton smacks him in his face and he faces the choice of either retiring on a loss or fighting on past his prime trying to over shadow that one loss and risk destroying his 'legacy' completely by picking up a string of losses, the further on he fights.
Hatton, however doesn't expect to retire unbeaten because he wants to test himself against the best there is. he is realistic, knowing that there is a good chance he'll pick up a loss or two along the way. If he goes down in history as the 2nd, 3rd or 4th best fighhter of his generation, that's fine but he'll show himself to be number 1 in class and dignity. mayweather wouldn't figure on that sort of list.
go on Ricky
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October 06, 2007, 11:26:49 AM »
The concern I have for this fight is not the match up in differing styles and if Mayweather will outbox Hatton, it's the fact that Hatton is moving up a weight class.
Hatton wasn't particularly impressive the last time he did this and this could be the factor the gives Mayweather the winning edge. I'd love Hatton to go and have a tear up with Mayweather but can see Mayweather dancing around for the opening rounds and picking off a tried Hatton in the later rounds. Hatton has great cardio but it's surprising how those few extra pounds affected him last time.
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October 06, 2007, 12:14:37 PM »
Quote from: AdamM on October 06, 2007, 10:53:02 AM
he has unparralleled cardio (he is capable of putting it
15
1st rounds)
Did you see the Collazo and Urango fights?
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October 06, 2007, 03:06:58 PM »
have you seen him train. Billy Graham puts on a padded suit and Ricky beats him for 15 x 3 minutes. Obviously that's not going to happen in a real fight because there's punches coming back, but his fitness is a strength.
True ricky is moving up from 140lb to 147lb but mayweather has only fought at 147 a couple of times and has spent most of him career lighter than 140. strength is also not an issue for Ricky in this fight.
It's all about how well Ricky closes distance and how much damage he tajes going in
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October 06, 2007, 05:04:31 PM »
Quote from: thediceman on October 06, 2007, 11:26:49 AM
The concern I have for this fight is not the match up in differing styles and if Mayweather will outbox Hatton, it's the fact that Hatton is moving up a weight class.
Hatton wasn't particularly impressive the last time he did this and this could be the factor the gives Mayweather the winning edge. I'd love Hatton to go and have a tear up with Mayweather but can see Mayweather dancing around for the opening rounds and picking off a tried Hatton in the later rounds. Hatton has great cardio but it's surprising how those few extra pounds affected him last time.
For whatever reason, Hatton wasn't great when he moved up to Welterweight last time. BUT, he did put Collazo down in the 1st round, and then won with a unanimous decision against a very awkward fighter, who no one has looked good against.
Maybe it was solely the weight, or maybe it was a bad day at the office. We all have them, just that they're not quite as public. I still think Hatton has the strength to impose himself on Mayweather at Welterweight.
There's also no fear of him not being up for this one - something that seems to affect most of the top boxers when they're fighting someone who isn't that well regarded. He certainly won't be taking Mayweather lightly, and it would be a mistake for Mayweather to do the same.
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October 06, 2007, 05:28:32 PM »
I'd missed this about Mosley:
Mosley Admits to taking steroids
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Quote from: AdamM on October 06, 2007, 03:06:58 PM
have you seen him train. Billy Graham puts on a padded suit and Ricky beats him for 15 x 3 minutes. Obviously that's not going to happen in a real fight because there's punches coming back, but his fitness is a strength.
True ricky is moving up from 140lb to 147lb but mayweather has only fought at 147 a couple of times and has spent most of him career lighter than 140. strength is also not an issue for Ricky in this fight.
It's all about how well Ricky closes distance and how much damage he tajes going in
So what was wrong in the Urango and Collazo fights? He most certainly didn't look like a man with "unparalleled cardio". He faded badly in both fights and hasn't been asked to go the distance since. Fitness has been a strength of Hattons in the past, indeed it was one of the reasons he managed to beat Tszyu, who couldn't cope with his intensity. However against Collazo and Urango that fitness and intensity was lacking, if thats the case against Mayweather then he doesnt have a hope in hell.
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Quote from: kinboshi on October 06, 2007, 05:28:32 PM
I'd missed this about Mosley:
Mosley Admits to taking steroids
I dont know why they dont just make steroids legal in sports, particularly athletics and instead of penalising the athletes that are willing to show that extra commitment and put there physical health at risk for the sake of there sporting aspirations penalize to doughnuts that haven't got the bottle to take it.
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