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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2007, 09:51:01 AM » |
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Mayweather has fought some decent fighters, but who's he beaten who is A LOT better than Hatton? Baldomir? Corrales? Mitchell? Juuko? A past it Gatti or De La Hoya?  You can say the same for Hatton. Who has he actually fought in their prime? Hatton is very good, and he has beaten who has been put in front of him. PBF a huge favourite IMO I didn't say Hatton had beaten anyone A LOT better than Mayweather. I just wondered who you were referring to?
Huh? It will be Hatton's biggest fight. I also think it will be Mayweather's.
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2007, 02:56:36 PM » |
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Mayweather has fought some decent fighters, but who's he beaten who is A LOT better than Hatton? Baldomir? Corrales? Mitchell? Juuko? A past it Gatti or De La Hoya? You can say the same for Hatton. Who has he actually fought in their prime? Hatton is very good, and he has beaten who has been put in front of him. PBF a huge favourite IMO I didn't say Hatton had beaten anyone A LOT better than Mayweather. I just wondered who you were referring to?
Huh? Not you - bolt. My bad. It will be Hatton's biggest fight. I also think it will be Mayweather's.
I think PBF's last fight was his biggest. I think it was as well. If he fights Hatton though, that will be his biggest in boxing terms if not monetary (and I think his hardest). |
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2007, 04:06:50 PM » |
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I disagree and you should put your money on Mayweather.
Hatton is a light welterweight. He went upstairs against Luis Collazo, didn't like it and got found out wanting in the power department. He also has a skin problem as well and the longer PBF dances around the ring giving pot shots, the harder it will be for Hatton.
What a fight!
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2007, 04:54:40 PM » |
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I think we both agree it'll be an excellent fight though, possibly a classic?
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2007, 07:29:33 PM » |
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I think we both agree it'll be an excellent fight though, possibly a classic?
I think that PBF will win quite convincingly. Hopefully he doesn't though, he has an off day and Ricky wins. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2007, 08:21:58 PM » |
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it wont take PBF having an off day for Hatton to win. If Hatton gives it everything he's got I don't think Mayweather will be able to work and will get ground down.
you cant bet on Mayweather anyway. he'll be odds on surely
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2007, 09:01:26 PM » |
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it wont take PBF having an off day for Hatton to win. If Hatton gives it everything he's got I don't think Mayweather will be able to work and will get ground down.
Yes it would because PBF is the best p4p fighter around. Meaning theoretically that if he fought RH at his peak he would win. PBF is 4/9 |
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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2007, 01:48:30 PM » |
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the 'pound for pound' thing is subjective. I know it's the commonly held opinion but for me that's hype. I'm not saying he's not a great boxer but the p4p thing is a red herring for me.
Boxers, like other sportsmen aren't machines. to believe that fighter A is better than fighter B so should beat him the majority, or even all the time doesn't work. They're human beings making split second decisions under high pressure. one wrong move and it's lights out, or if not, a series of shots that can start a collapse. Ricky Hatton will be in the best shape of his life and If Mayweather makes a mistake, he'll lose. If he could turn the clock back 5 years, that'd still be the case.
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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2007, 05:06:38 PM » |
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The best aspect of this fight for me is that we will find out once and for all how good Hatton is. I personally think he is overrated and will be given a boxing masterclass by PBF others clearly think he is capable of beating the best boxer on the planet. In a few months time we will know for sure who is right  |
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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2007, 06:58:09 PM » |
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If this fight had been made at light-welter I would seriously fancy Hatton.
At welterweight he has yet to convince me.
I think Ricky has a very tough job, great fight in prospect though.
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« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2007, 07:25:56 PM » |
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it's only half a stone
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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2007, 08:24:57 PM » |
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I agree with Adam re: the p4p and that they're not machines. It's the best man on the night.
Mayweather is the more naturally talented fighter but Hatton has such a strong character and is a smart cookie. He can also box more than he is credited for by the yanks IMO. He and Billy Graham will be working out a plan to nullify Mayweather's natural advantage. I don't think it will be a pretty fight, I expect Hatton to be all over him like flies round the proverbial. But that's also what Mayweather will be expecting.... I wouldn't like to call it, but I can't wait!
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2007, 08:38:01 PM » |
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one correction
Mayweather is the naturally better BOXER
Hatton is a much stronger FIGHTER
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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2007, 09:27:16 PM » |
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it's only half a stone
If thats the case why did Hatton go back to light-welter after the Collazo fight when all the "big" fights were at welter? I think mentally it may be telling if not physically, there may be a nagging doubt in Hattons mind that he is not as effectrive at welter. Although they have admitted they will approach this fight differently, suggesting they got it wrong v Collazo. Aside from this fight I was just looking at some of the upcoming matches in the next few months and there are some "proper fights" coming up which I'm really looking forward to seeing |
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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2007, 10:26:16 PM » |
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Both men are the ideal candiate to beat the other, Hatton is the only fighter who could beat Mayweather right now and vice versa.
Oscar De La Hoya was beating Mayweather for the first 3 or 4 rounds, Hatton will be able to keep that pace up all night, I go Hitman on points.
Back Hatton on an American Sportsbook towards the end of November, you'll get a crazy price.
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