hatton v mayweather

[ACE2M]

Honestly, i'm praying for hatton win, he can win but fm must be favourite and if i didn't care about the result i'd have to punt fm at the price.

Am going to a dodgy old boozer in manchester to watch it which should be quality.

Ricky is less likely to cut nowadays, when he had surgery for previous cuts sustained in fights the surgeon did things (not sure exactly what) to make him less likely to cut in future and he hasn't cut since. He's also got older and his skin has toughened up naturally. Tsyzu was trying to cut him with butts and scrapes and he couldn't do it.

i've punted ricky to win in the last 4 rounds for a bit of fun.

I am so excited it's weird, i like the feeling of altogetherness and thats it's our boy over there and we all hope he does well.

Ricky looks in supreme shape but but fm looks incredible to, should be an absolute classic regardless of result.

come on ricky.

[kinboshi]

http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3013279.ece:

After nearly a week here in Las Vegas, anyone’s grasp on reality can slide a little. By fight night, we will be completely inured to the singular world-view of Uncle Roger Mayweather, so it is important we report it now.

Uncle Roger is Floyd Mayweather’s trainer and his opinions are doubly notable. It is his view that Floyd is the best boxer in history. And he is firm in the conviction that he himself is the best trainer. He delivered these gems in the gym on Monday, he repeated them after the “Grand Arrival” on Tuesday and trotted them out at the press conference on Wednesday, too.

On each occasion, his two-year-old son, Lehkie, was on his lap or directly in front of him, invariably shadow-boxing, executing combinations and body rolls like an expert. Uncle Roger says that Lehkie’s generation must find a different life path, through education and not the ring, but he would have a more reasonable claim if he told us that Lehkie was the best two-year-old in boxing history, too.

Suffice it to say that he does not rate Ricky Hatton very highly. At the press conference, he opened by insisting that he did not have much to say. An exceedingly long while later, he had informed us that tomorrow night’s bout, for Floyd, will be like “picking up litter” and that Hatton has one chance of beating him and that is if he uses a stick.

A “fishing pole” was the appropriate form of stick, he said. “After Saturday night,” he said, “you’ll all be saying: what guy can beat Floyd Mayweather Jr? Well maybe God can bring someone down from heaven.”

It was only after he had begun to repeat himself that Hatton finally got the chance to use the microphone and he opened, hilariously, by saying: “First, I’d like to thank Roger for making the winter shorter.”

For the record, there is not much in boxing history that Uncle Roger admires unless it comes with the name Mayweather attached. No surprise then that behind him in second place on the all-time best trainers’ list, he places his own brother, Floyd Sr. It is at one’s own risk that you venture the name of Angelo Dundee. “You ever seen him train Muhammad Ali?” he replies. “You ever seen him put on the hand-mits? He ain’t ever trained nobody. You ever saw him train Sugar Ray Leonard? He ain’t turned out s***. They were already good.” Also for the record, the one boxer-trainer team that he does hold up as a challenger to the Mayweather pedestal is Sugar Ray Robinson and his trainer, George Gainford. But Hatton? The following monologue is a little more on what he thinks of Hatton.

“There are a million fighters better than Ricky Hatton. If Hatton was born over here, he would never have been s***. If he was born in my era, he would never have beaten anyone. He’s nothing but a club fighter.

“How is the guy going to beat my nephew if he don’t even jab? You need a jab to get in, don’t you? Without a jab, how’s he even going to get close to my nephew? Tell him from me he needs to go buy one quick. Because Fight Night is going to be a f****** bloodbath, it’s going to be a Harlem massacre. He’s gonna need that plastic surgery again.”

Hatton and plastic surgery is another of Mayweather’s favourite subjects (a reference to the work on cuts Hatton needed in two earlier bouts). He also likes to inform you that the best boxers in history have all come from the American North West (he is from Grand Rapids, Michigan) and that the reason his family is such a dynasty of boxing success is that you could “just sit around the house and grab boxing knowledge right there”.

That is one interpretation. However, the repeated dysfunctional nature of the clan makes any success a headline. Floyd’s father did time for dealing drugs and his mother was an addict. His father was also shot in the leg by his uncle and Uncle Roger has served six months for striking his child’s grandmother.

Note here that Roger believes he was the victim of injustice: “I went there for bulls***. I didn’t hit the woman, the woman hit me. Folks can go to jail for anything,” he said. But how this all applies itself to tomorrow night’s bout is fascinating. As the crowing trainer yacks on and on about the best in the world and the pending bloodbath, you wonder if Hatton is maybe right when he suggests that the Mayweather clan is guilty of underestimating him.

For Uncle Roger is not engaged in any form of mind games or trickery here. His bragging has not been whistled up to dent the confidence of the Hattons. He seems to have bought into the entire message himself.

Which makes you wonder at Floyd’s temperament and how he prevents the climate of narcissism from affecting his performance. Humility is a virtue in boxing as much as any sport, but if Floyd’s supply was already short, then his uncle is likely to coax the rest out of him.

Which, of course, makes you wonder about Floyd, the secret of his glitteringly sustained success and why self-glorifying has not tripped him up before. The preposterous uncle, naturally, has the answer.

“You can’t find a guy who does what I do with them mits,” he said. “You can’t find a guy who does what I do, period. I don’t even have to say I’m the best trainer in the world; I already know I am.”

[AdamM]

I am under the impression De La Hoya v Hatton is on, regardless of this weekends result.

That might be a better fight too. A right toe to toe brawl.

[boldie]

I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.

Know how you feel.  At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years.
I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these.

Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question.......

I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly eciting fight.

[cia260895]

I am under the impression De La Hoya v Hatton is on, regardless of this weekends result.

That might be a better fight too. A right toe to toe brawl.

de la hoya said he has 3 options for next fight Hatton/mayweather and someone else but Hatton De la hoya at wembley would fill it up.

[bolt pp]

I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.

Know how you feel.  At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years.
I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these.

Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question.......

I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight.

the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division  crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up.

[boldie]

I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.

Know how you feel.  At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years.
I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these.

Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question.......

I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight.

the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division  crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up.

yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match.

[kinboshi]

I am under the impression De La Hoya v Hatton is on, regardless of this weekends result.

That might be a better fight too. A right toe to toe brawl.

de la hoya said he has 3 options for next fight Hatton/mayweather and someone else but Hatton De la hoya at wembley would fill it up.

Yes, he said a rematch with Mayweather, Hatton, or Cotto were his options.

[AdamM]

Cant see him fighting Mayweather again

[kinboshi]

If you play for Liverpool, you can't see Hatton fight Mayweather!


http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07122007/4/benitez-issues-hatton-ban.html

Steven Gerrard has told Ricky Hatton he has the backing of Liverpool for his world title fight - but the Reds star will not be able to watch the showdown with Floyd Mayweather himself.

The Liverpool skipper, a big fight fan and a friend of Manchester City supporter Hatton, will be expected to be in bed on Sunday morning when the fight will be televised from Las Vegas.

Liverpool will have played Reading in a 5.15pm kick-off at the Madejski Stadium on Saturday evening, and their return flight from Heathrow will not get them back on Merseyside until around 11pm.

With another flight to Marseille early on Monday morning for their next Champions League game, boss Rafael Benitez wants his players well rested.

[ACE2M]

I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.

Know how you feel.  At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years.
I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these.

Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question.......

I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight.

the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division  crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up.

yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match.

no way this will be a tear up.

[boldie]

If you play for Liverpool, you can't see Hatton fight Mayweather!


http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07122007/4/benitez-issues-hatton-ban.html

Steven Gerrard has told Ricky Hatton he has the backing of Liverpool for his world title fight - but the Reds star will not be able to watch the showdown with Floyd Mayweather himself.

The Liverpool skipper, a big fight fan and a friend of Manchester City supporter Hatton, will be expected to be in bed on Sunday morning when the fight will be televised from Las Vegas.

Liverpool will have played Reading in a 5.15pm kick-off at the Madejski Stadium on Saturday evening, and their return flight from Heathrow will not get them back on Merseyside until around 11pm.

With another flight to Marseille early on Monday morning for their next Champions League game, boss Rafael Benitez wants his players well rested.

Hatton doesn't give a crap..he support a real club

[bolt pp]

I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.

Know how you feel.  At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years.
I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these.

Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question.......

I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight.

the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division  crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up.

yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match.

no way this will be a tear up.

All Hatton fights are tear ups

[Bazzaboy]

I'm starting to feel the buzz I got before some great fights of the past which I felt had 'all time great' potential written all over it.

Know how you feel.  At first, I wasn't too bothered, but then you just know it's going to be a classic and we haven't had one for years.
I was going to be a tight arse and watch it on the net, but I think I'm going to have to fork out the cash for it now, I can't be dealing with the poor streams in times like these.

Now, to stay up or to get up early, that is the question.......

I think it will be my generations' "Rumble in the Jungle"..I am too young to have seen Ali v Foreman and all that stuff (well not live) and though I'm not a big fight fan (I won't watch shitty boxing in the same way that I won't watch Aldershot Town v Mansfield Town in the cup) but this is a truly exciting fight.

the sad truth is though that those shitty little fights are usually the best rucks since the heavyweight division  crumbled over the past decade, the best fights undoubtedly are the lightweight undercard fighters that the refs dont treat with kid gloves and let them go toe to toe for 12 rounds for the 10k purse and give them a fair decision at the end, though i do think that this fight will be an exception for a huge ppv ruck and will see both fighters have a serious tear up.

yeah that's true..I can't even remember when I last watched a heavy weight match.

no way this will be a tear up.

All Hatton fights are tear ups

myth

[DaveShoelace]

heard someone say he thinks fm will win due to hatton being pulled due to face cuts.
is this a real concern?

Used to a big problem for Hatton earlier in his career.  If Mayweather lands some cutting shots round his eyes, it's possible that he could cut.  But the more recent cuts that Hatton has suffered have come from clashes of heads - and if he's that close to Mayweather - the fight will be going his way!

The cutting is less of a problem these days because there was a chunk of vaseline underneath hattons skin above his eye, from a previous cut, which made his skin more tender - they've sortedthat now.

Not that mayweather will ever get close enough for cuts to be a problem.

I've followed Hatton since he was 19 and now I think he is potentially the best pressure fighter of all time. This could be the fight of the decade. Hatton to win on points by a lanslide for me.

If he loses, I reckon he could always get work as a compere on the working mans club circuit.