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I'm gonna take a guess and say this is for the regional this weekend?

Yes it is.  Seats are meant to be on sale from the day of the tournament, but someone on the APAT forum has said he's already got his.

Seats for the first national of Season 2 are on sale from 9pm on 9th october

Sats on Blue Sq 7th/8th Oct

I thought you could only buy in to the Regionals on the day. I can't get to a casino until Saturday so now am concerned it will be sold out.

Will get this checked out and reply when I have an answer

That is the intention I believe.  I think it's taking a bit of time for the information to filter through to all the casinos across the country.  People have been calling and the receptionists or whoever they've spoken to don't know anything about the APAT regionals.  But that's standard for most casinos - you call them and they haven't got a clue what's happening in the card room, and you can never get to speak to someone in the card room...

I have just spoken to Gala maybury, they are taking bookings at the casino now (won't take phone bookings). I would imagine therefore that there won't be many seats left when it opens on Saturday.

This may make it difficult for those outside Edinburgh.


Laz, Eck and Colin......PM sent



Geo

I'd PM Des as well...

Why? is Des playing Edinburgh? or just to let him know.

I can register and pay for Laz, Eck if they are going and I know Colin and terry are going so can do so for them too if required.

Geo

LMAO at the thought of des playing poker

i am still trying to get the imagine from bB3 out my head

Anyone got phone numbers for Laz or Eck? appreciate if you could PM them to me.

Geo

Not great news if they are accepting registrations already and wont accept them over the phone.  I may have to 'pop' down tomorrow then I guess.

just spoke to cardroom newcastle, on Saturday they have APAT 2.30 and a regular at 8.30 and i can register anytime, probably dodge thru tomorrow to register, anyone want me to put their name down ?

We clearly need an official APAT announcement ASAP as to whether these casinos are all going to be stopped from continuing to sell ahead of the published time.

Already we have people who can get there early organising to buy in their mates. What a load of crap (and I'm not aiming that at APAT).

Absolute nonsense!! my offer is to assist regular APATers who may miss out because they live outwith Edinburgh, can't see any harm in that.

The problem is with the Casinos not sticking by the "register on the day " agreement if that was agreed.

You see on this forum many requests for people who live a distance away from venues to have someone register for them.

Geo

And it wasn't aimed at you either. Your offer is an inevitable consequence of the casinos' actions.

That your offer is aimed at APAT regulars is largely irrelevant anyway. The fact is that those expecting to turn up and register as advertised on Saturday, whether regulars or first timers, are potentially being disadvanted because some casinos seem to have declared UDI. And that's what is crap and, of course, the fault of the casinos concerned.

The critism should lay with the casinos and possibly with a lack of communication with APAT.   I don't think it's fair buying people in though.  I have to make an effort to get to the Vic on Saturday and I'm going to be well pissed off if it's sold out before I get there.

Already we have people who can get there early organising to buy in their mates. What a load of crap (and I'm not aiming that at APAT).

Was your quote.

Don't know where you are from Kenjude, but I know Edinburgh and guarantee that the 80 seats would easily be taken up by regulars with little or no interest in APAT itself, but merely the value offered.

I accept that there will be people who may not be able to get a friend to register them but if they could , they would.

More than likely the same at other cardrooms.

Geo

Can't believe you haven't got someone who could register you Silo.

As I said, it's merely to assist a couple of guys I know as APAT regulars.

Geo

Yup, and it was about the situation and the consequences the casinos have created, not about your offer. Sorry for not making that clearer. It's inevitable that people will do whatever they can to get round these sitatuations when they happen.

I'm intending/hoping to play at Luton with my nephew.

No probs mate. good luck.

Geo

Don;t know of anyone playing - I have no real life poker friends :(

If anyone is going and wouldn't mind buying me in, I'd appreciate it :D

I think you are all worrying needlessly, the "locals" aren't going to be attracted to these.
£20 buyin for a £250 maximum top prize just holds no value to regular players, one or two might get near sellout but very few will.
Do that many people even know bout APAT?

Everyone that reads Poker Players knows about it and that it's free registration, plus all the Blue Sq customers, plus any other magazines that advertise it well too.  Don't forget there's only around 80 seats available in each venue, I bet APAT has thousands of members now.

I do hope you are right though.

Not some of the people who work in the casinos...

Im worried now

3 of us were gonna go

we stay in glasgow

been planning this since the announcement

I'm gonna be well angry if i miss out

ian i played a £25 freezeout last night with no added value which had more than 80 runners in a smaller catchment area than most of the regionals
so i think its very likely with the added value that these will sell out

OK...any excuse for a trip to the Vic  :D....I'll pop down tomorrow night....(before the Virgin event Skip!)....and I'm happy to buy anyone in who PM's their full name before 5pm tomorrow.

Walsall don't seem to know about it either....................

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=27642.0

Added value??
What added value?
£600 is taken from the prizepool for seats.

trying to get through to the cardroom now....

busy though

will post what they say

No added value?  Dealer dealt tournament with no juice (and a free buffet!)?  Sounds good value to me.  The seats are very much in demand as well, don't try and kid yourself any different.  These are the seats that sold out within 2 minutes during the first season.  Winning a seat into the APAT nationals is very good value.

so if all 80 play?

its a grand between top 10%??

and how many seats?

75 into 600 is 8 seats?

or am i way of the mark?

Cheers Ripple, you have pm :)

Ur right from what i can gather

80 x 20 = £ 1600

Minus 75 x 8 = £ 600

£1000 left for top 8

Thats if the event sells out.

i asked about the seats coming out the prize pool i was told the seats were added

guess i am wrong but thats what i was told

it nearly made it a close call to travel or not

but not quite a close call

correct

I saw no mention of a free buffet, well done on that but i think you may have missed my opening post on this thread, i was referring to the "locals" getting seats before the regular apaters.
As for the demand for seats, just how many seats are available in all the sats?


£250 + seat
£150 + seat
£100 +seat
The in £10 increments i believe + seat.

I thought it was that, i looked on apat website and everyone seemed to be saying different things, but I am now glad that I worked it out..

Blackpool for me, nobody has mentioned they are going there..

Anyone in Edinburgh trust me to buy 3 tickets for me

its a big ask

pm if so

 APAT are saying(on their site) they are going to email the casinos to only allow reg on the day.

 no doubt Tighty/Des will reply on here shortly.

Oh and BTW every comp at walsall £20 + is dealer dealt, though as i said earlier it is not in their October schedule that is mailed to their members.

emails not enough, they'll claim they never saw it for ages and continue selling seats.   Need to speak direct imo.

All the APAT events are dealer dealt, with no juice. 

Not surprised that it's not in their mailed out schedule, it seems the casinos' internal communication is worse than their external communication to customers.

Again i was referring to no value for "locals"..............

Just put this on the APAT forum:

Sorry about this everyone.  The casinos should not have been selling seats early.  As stated in a different thread some days ago, APAT hoped to investigate whether the entry period could be extended, but it was agreed that seats would be sold 'on the day' for this event - to give everyone an equal chance of securing a seat.  

I will be sending an email to each of the casinos this evening to clarify that seats should not be on sale yet.  

Similarly, APAT has sent a Regional Tournament Pack to each casino via the National Poker Managers at Grosvenor and Gala.  This information will not be known across the casinos at this point, but obviously everyone will be made aware of the plans for the weekend.

On another point, the casino monthly diaries were pulled together a few weeks ago, before details of the APAT Regionals were sorted, and that is why the first APAT events are not listed, and why a number of the casino staff appear unaware of them.

Will the casinos have an APAT membership list?

when i phoned up they said you get complimentary membership


hope thats not true

So do I, otherwise it makes it easy for locals, who haven't made the effort to become a member, to take up the seats before those travelling further. Looking more hit and miss by the minute.

You turn up at a Grosvenor and register, or play in an APAT event online on BlueSQ and you are automatically a member.  Part of the sponsorship agreement so I believe.

Billy the Fish playing a little roullete and never having heard of APAT will be inclined to throw his score down then ,and when he gets pumped out,he will never use his APAT membership nor ever be inclined to

just a thought

I agree. 

Same for the online events, although the seats are unlimited there, and so it's not as big a problem.

Hardly enough for me to make the hours drive especially without a guaranteed seat.

only an hour

what about us guys with a 9-10 hour round trip

Stay in bed.

i plan too

and it nothing to do with this case of man flu i have been fighting for a couple of weeks

Iron

I feel for you - That Flu/Cold that is doing the rounds atm is a bad one indeed. We are both STILL suffering from it.

Okay, I have to say that although nice to be given free membership this season, but in light of everything, I would most certainly prefer paid membership.

Giving anyone who plays an APAt event automatic membership will mean that genuine members who have loyally supported the association will miss seats that are taken by someone who just "Fancied" a cheap comp with no understanding of the ethos of the APAt. There was some disscussion when local players filled up spaces in previous live events and did well, yes, they joined the APAt after, but was it really to be a member of our association or simply to play further events.

I would happily pay a renewal fee if the events were made members only again.

what association?

so far the association has been the tour and therefore everyone involved has been using it as a way to play


hopefully soon des will launch plans for the association

APAT represents several thousand poker players and for the industry to develop in a player focussed way, it is essential that we are able to authoratively work with the leading government and commercial entities of the day.

APAT has spent the last six months building relationships and establishing a presence within the UK gaming industry.  It is an extremely traditional industry and will take time to change.

To encourage change in this environment, APAT needs to demonstrate both a strong membership, and an ability to have a commercial impact.  I can think of few industries where "money talks" is a more appropriate headline.

With the Amateur Poker Tour, APAT is gaining the ability to utilise our members spending power for the benefit of the major commercial players in the industry.  This is a major plus for our Association, and quite unique for any player group in worldwide poker.

There is an incredible amount to do as we approach our first anniversary and through this forum, APAT now invites members to participate in the direction that the Association will take going forward.

So what have we achieved in our first year?

    * gained the endorsement of significant sponsors and partners. 


    * negotiated a tremendous amount of added value for member events.


    * removed the registration fee requirement at those events.

 

    * had standardised rules signed off by the Gaming Commission, and used in each of our tournaments in 4 countries, across the leading casino groups.


    * increased the profile of several amateur players through significant media reporting online and in print.


APAT will canvass your views and offer voting opportunities on important policy decisions.  Members wishing to propose policy can feel assured that well researched, reasoned submissions will be taken seriously and offered to the membership if appropriate.

We look forward to working closely with members going forward.

no word on the olympics yet?

we'd probably support a boycott of Beijing over the Burma issue.

I think 'arguing about casino opening times for registration for APAT events' is showing lots of promise for being included as an event in the Special Olympics, though.

* gained the endorsement of significant sponsors and partners.    TOUR
* negotiated a tremendous amount of added value for member events.   TOUR
* removed the registration fee requirement at those events.   TOUR
* had standardised rules signed off by the Gaming Commission, and used in each of our tournaments in 4 countries, across the leading casino groups   ONLY USED ON THE TOUR
* increased the profile of several amateur players through significant media reporting online and in print.   TOUR



dont see what the association has done that doesnt involve the tour

things like advanced publication of schedules and structures, getting the rules of poker standardised accross the board not just on the tour,

yes slowly thins happen but i would like to think that the APA will have a committee and each member could lobby the committee into getting things put into action

the tour is great and the apat is doing great things, but as i have always said that has to be more to the APA than the T

but as argued, the success of the tour is a necessary pre-condition of the Association having influence and effecting change if required

yep i agreee but m,y point to bainn was the people joining were joining the tour just like he and i ahve done as at present the association is the tour

and hopefully in the near future the assoiciation will have clear dividing line between it and the tour

yep, I can see that. We agree.

I don't.

you don't count. Much

I would have thought that this invite to members would have been more appropriate on the APAT forum?

it was, I copied it from there.

 ;nanana;

Really?

Edit: Ah found it... I thought this was something new.

wot about finishing season 1 first

imminent, trying to secure streaming rights for final table. (sorry)

That's got Ed very interested in APAT.

Apparently the Card Room manager at  Plymouth has stated that Saturdays tourney will be self dealt.

!

thank you, on the case

(teething problems)

Definitions of association:

    * a formal organization of people or groups of people; "he joined the Modern Language Association"
    * the act of consorting with or joining with others; "you cannot be convicted of criminal guilt by association"
    * the state of being connected together as in memory or imagination; "his association of his father with being beaten was too strong to break"
    * affiliation: a social or business relationship; "a valuable financial affiliation"; "he was sorry he had to sever his ties with other members of the team"; "many close associations with England"
    * the process of bringing ideas or events together in memory or imagination; "conditioning is a form of learning by association"
    * a relation resulting from interaction or dependence; "flints were found in association with the prehistoric remains of the bear"; "the host is not always injured by association with a parasite"

Ironside will no doubt disagree with me, but from what I can reason, we have an association and a tour.

Indeed, from the very first press release and build up to our first live event, there was merely an idea of an association but from that very first event, an association has been growing.

Friendships have made, ideas to improve things for all members and infact, for all poker players, are constantly being discussed between us, either in person or via our own forum.  This very interation and working together is the very essence of an association, one that is continuing to grow and slowly influencing poker in the UK, if not further afield, despite the occasional problem.

your defining the assocation as a community

basically i dont care about the community

i care about an organisation that will bring poker forward

No, the APA as defined by it's and our actions, plus it's aims, does indeed quantify as an association to improve poker and is indeed working to that end.

Why not try listening and getting involved, maybe if you do, you will see that Tony, Des, Rich and us members are doing a little more than you think.

us members are doing what?

what you mean try and get involved i am doing my bit by trying to press them into getting a commitee together

i am also asking the APA to represent my views

which i make clear

so far as i am aware the members so far are turning up to events and enjoying themselves as a comnunity

i know what des and tikay and richard are doing for the tour and am thankfully for them for doing it

but i want an assocaiotion where my views as a member can be put forward

not a group of poker loving friend that like a drink for that i have blonde

This is evident.

i didnt join apat for a comunity or the tour

i will proberly not play many tour events this year

i will more than likely not play any online games

i aint intrested in a comunity

i joined the APA for what it could do for amateur players in the UK

if APAt hadn't included the APA as a major part of there promotion

i wouldnt of joined

as the tour isnt worth it for me spending hundreds of pounds to play in a £75 comp inst value for money

but back to the point in question i feel you saying that you dont want locals joining because they dont want

to be part of the Association is wrong

they more than likely dont want to be part of the comunity but then why should they some of us that

paid £10 dont want to be of a comunity

there at the moment isnt an association that i would recognise as one

and yes i am a member of quite a few associations that represents me on a number of issues

but at present the APAt doesnt have an Associaton that represents anyone on anything other than the tour

Bainn to serve, 2 games all

New balls please.

and since that statement what has happened have nominations or voting on members started

the same statement about the Assoc was made when it was first launched

but Des has so much on his shoulders with the tour he hasnt been able to get the Assoc of the ground

LOL

My reply will have to wait until I return from work.

its more like game set and match to ironside

which is the same score when bainn tried to tell me i would be playing in the apat regionals on the 25th of november

So, you are telling me, tomorrow at The Vic, we have a £20, no reg. fee, dealer dealt tournament with reasonable starting chips a good structure and a free buffet !!!!?????

Fantastic!....cant wait to see the look on the regulars faces !! ;D

Well done APAT
 ;tightend; ;tightend; ;tightend;

let us know how you get on, and in particular any teething problems that need improving

Did you get that list of casino opening times Richard?

tick tock tick tock

i would call the police i think you might have a bomb in your room i can hear some ticking

oh wait you could be just thinking in that case dont worry about it

er, no

forgot.

at least I am honest.

I will do for the second round of regionals

LOL, not much good for tomorrow though eh?
Now i understand why they don't pay you :D

My pal is trying to drag me to walsall tonight, if i go i'll post the answer (to one venue anyway).

thanks, I would pop you a fiver for helping but i can't afford it

I suspect that 'casino opening time' and 'cardroom staff taking registrations' may not necessarily be one and the same thing!  ;carlocitrone;

I'll let you know how smoothly it runs in Cardiff tomorrow.

likewise from edinburgh

looking fwd to it

played in bigger comps before,but this is a big deal to me

from small acorns and all that

Anyone going to edinburgh tomorrow, i'm not long back and spoke to robin the cardroom manager and he confirmed that doors opent at 1:30!!

Doors at 12 at the Vic, not sure what I'm going to do for two and a half hours tbh. 

Can you give directions from the Glasgow M8 ?

Dougie.

Take it right to the end, just before you hit the main roundabout there is a slip road, should be signpost for leith/city centre. if you miss that you can just come off left at the main roundabout.

Follow that to the end again, large roundabout and you are going right (city centre) stay in the left lane and as you approach the lights you will see Maybury (huge white building) on the left. Take a left at the lights and you're there.

Geo.

Opening times for the casinos tomorrow (not guaranteed, times are subject to change, your home is at risk if you do not keep up payments on loans secured against it, please do not pass go, do not collect £200).

Great Yarmouth - 12.30pm
Walsall - 1.30pm
G Blackpool - 12.00pm
Edinburgh - 1.30pm
G Manchester - 12.00pm
Newcastle - 2.00pm
Brighton - 2.00pm
London Victoria - 12.00pm
G Luton - 1.30pm
Plymouth - 12.00pm
Bristol - 12.00pm
Cardiff - 2.00pm

http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=434.msg3905

Just leaving to go to Blackpool soon, wishing everyone who is going today good luck and enjoy !!  ;goodluck;

Good luck yourself, off to Brighton soon.

off to newcastle now, will be sitting outside in PIG TEX till doors open

I'm off to Luton soon, good luck everyone and I will hopefully see you in Walsall.  :)up

lol...good luck to all blondes playing today.

Just leaving for the Maybury Edinburgh.

Good luck all, best wishes to APAT that all goes well.

Geo

I asked you a simple question in the "Scottish Invasion" thread if you were going to play the qualifier seeing as your initial date to come down was the 14th.

Your use of the word "Joining" suggests there is something to join, an association perhaps ?

I never said I did not want locals taking part, the association welcomes all players who wish to join and help promote the rights of players. No, I was just concerned with the idea of players taking part in a live event simply because it was "There" and having no idea, or intention of taking part in our association or guiding the direction it goes in. The tour is there for members of the APAt.

the association gets its clout by the numbers that it represents so getting locals to join up (as everyone who plays becomes a member) is important for apat, if they are not bothered about the tour then all the better for those that want to play the tour

as for the scottish invasion thread your exact words were

"you WILL be playing"

i pointed out i WONT be playing

As I have already mentioned, getting new members is a good thing, but if they are not concerned with the tour (which is your interpretation of what I said) then taking the place of someone who wishes to play in the tour and gain ranking points is a sticking point ?

And my EXACT words, with none of your added capitalization -

"You will be playing the Regional qualifier for the Welsh APAt event then ?"

we have to wiegh up the advantage of being a bigger organisation against the wishes of the players who want to play the tour

the tour should be an instrument in promoting the APA

which so far it has been with the tour generating new members


and glad you are agreeing with me you implied in my reading of the post that i will be playing in a regional quailfier

I suspect these players have a greater interest in the tour, all be it a single event or subsequent local events, than they care about the actual association and whatever it eventually gets round to acheiving.

So how many runners did these first regional qualifiers generate ?

600-odd in total (I think, but could be wrong, again).

48 (give or take 1) at the Vic

25 at Brighton

53 at Edinburgh

67 in Blackpool.  Just spoke to Dafyd (DJscouse), and he's made it to the final table.  So 9 of them on there, but the bubble is 7th place.

30 at walsall, therefore only 3 seats up for grabs.

They were charging £3 for the buffet at 6 0'clock,best guess there would only be the final table by that time.

Thought the structure was OK, but they could have easily given 5,000 chips to start play with!!!

Given the same set of circumstances I dont think I would do the 75 mile round trip again.

31 at Yarmouth in the back cardroom.

Starting stack a bit tight, but a good atmos.

Me 29th (KK no match for 77), Ed99fish 26th (KK no match for A8o) and Slim99slim 20thish (Kronenberg 1664).

Seemed to be some confusion as to the payouts and the buffet was long after we left, we didn't get involved.

Starting stack being???

Glad I stayed @ home and watched the rugby.

3000 - A few more would have been nice.

3,000 with a 30 minute clock.  Suppose it would be right for 80 runners, but with half that, 5,000 wouldn't be a problem at all.

Hey it's great that the response was so good, but I'd have thought that the starting stack/structure, etc., would have been pre-determined by APA.

I thought that was supposed to be part of the grand scheme of things... ;popcorn;

it was

It was pre-determined.

(damn, beaten to it by the Norwegian)

Self-deal at Brighton for the first few levels made it so slow, I overhead that the players were meant to arrange dealers for themselves if it wasnt to be self-deal? Anyway tiny field and just about squeeked the final table before pushing with rags , the structure seemed decent just needed more runners to make it work properly.. stacks got VERY shallow all of a sudden.

Look forward to the next one.

Damn, wish I new that, I would have bought one with me, I have a spare set of chips I could have helped out with as well.


I'll put it down to teething problems and go to the next one if I know they have sorted their dealer issue out.

He finished 6th, so won a seat :)up

67 at manchester ended up being self dealt

Listening to the feedback, and will be consulting with the venues in time for the second round of events

the dealer and starting stack issue obviously being two points for starters

68 at Luton, including some late starting locals who might usually have been playing the £10 rebuy that wasn't on and are now APAT members, hopefully with more of an idea of what they were playing in by the end than they did at the start. Dealers did an excellent job, as they did at the biggie a couple of months ago. Final 3 had all played in the biggie in August.

And I'm happy to say that I had sufficient starting stack to see me through right to the end  ;yippee;

I thought it was quite good, but then I'm only really used to 20 mins self dealt with 1500 chips or so.  They didn't have enough dealers at the Vic, but to be fair they did have a couple on and they moved us from table 1 to a table with a dealer after two hands when another dealer turned up.

Sadly the cards weren't on my side, had aces beat by 9's early on but scrapped back with more pocket aces, but my QQ was no good on a Q789T board when my opponant had 66.

That's the heartbreak story out of the way, but I really enjoyed it.  Glad I left at 10am to get there in time for opening to beat the rush!  I arrived at 11am - no, sorry they don't let you in the car park early, so I spent an hour dodging the traffic wardens.    Eventually got in the car park and was greeted by a valet that insisted on me leaving keys and car with him and he was going to park it - fair enough, nothing too wrong with that, except the sign saying the Vic accepts no responsibilty for loss or damage to cars or property amused me in a worrying sort of way.  Thankfully all seemed ok on my early return.  Anyway, got in at 12 to beat the rush of people for a seat - there were 4 in front of me and only 48 overal :D   I'll take it easier on the way up next time!

I was going to stick around for the freezout but it was a bit long to wait for me.   I'll definately go to the next one though, had a friendly bunch on my table and it was a very enjoyable day.   

came 47th from 53 in edinburgh

a level 2 blowup......lol


but very impressed,professional,timely

and an APAT rep who was genuinely interested....

I noticed a few locals playing asking what all this apat business is all about ,and what are we playing for kind of stuff but thats cool...



maybe next time I'll hang around enough to enjoy an edinburgh buffet

met a few blondites too....nice to put faces to names for a change

I really would like to say well done to Richard et al for this weekend, a tremendous amount of work (unpaid) has obviously gone into this weekend.
Sadly i had yet another family crisis so missed the first event but i will be there for the next (stupid dippy women aside) event.

61 at Bristol mostly regulars who loved the structure, all tables dealer dealt, structure was sound only gripe was not having 150/300 level, the jump from 100/200 to 200/400 took its toll.
 I got there at 12 reg didn't open till 1 so sat and watched sky sports drinking complimentary tea and coffee till kick off, all soft drinks were complimentary too. Buffet was a selection of sandwiches, chicken wings and chips (no charge).

I went out in 16th but great value for £20 buyin.

well done! 68 is a good turnout!

and thanks for all the other positive comments. Would welcome other feedback good or bad. If we don't know of issues we can't address them!

(http://www.yappari.co.uk/wp-content/images/apat/150-300.jpg)

Went to The Vic, and like Silo, enjoyed the day overall. Went out in 18th....but Mel was still in, well stacked :)up

As he said, only 2 out of 6 starting tables had dealers....the reason given by the Manager was short notice and that having this event sandwiched between the EPT and the upcoming GUKPT meant he couldn't rota on dealers.

Completely agree it needs a 150/300 level. We seem to go from playing Poker to a bit of an all in fest.

Never saw or heard about any Buffet...but maybe I went out too early!

Everyone was really friendly, and it was played in a nice atmosphere.....apart from one guy who thought it was a WSOP final table!!, and threw a complete strop by throwing his chips everywhere and storming off,.... when his Queens lost to Mel's Ace King....LOL

We are looking closely at this for the season two nationals, and running antes too.

Announcements in due course

just got an email report from the regionals


very fast.impressive stuff


u guys are making a great effort,just thought I'd add..

No surprise there - they couldn't run a raffle. Surely the worst run cardroom anywhere/ever

Event 2 of Season 2 nationals: Marvellous

Was gr8 to meet you bhoywonder, you going next month? I hope I do better then heehee

xx

yeah

would love to mair

great structure,felt very professional,thats a change for me...lol


You done ok,your 10J was very well played and you got paid off....but you also ran into a donkey if i remember right

my bro was well chuffed to be sitting next to phill starrs and he eventually knocked my bro out but no complaints


now wheres that chapter on dealing with donkey calling stations.....lol

lol yeah that was a double of Phil Hellmuth ;) 

48 runners at the Vic, to add to the no buffet (apparently all sandwiches and soft drinks are free), all self dealt until about 1.5 hours into the game when they moved a table to a dealer table .  Last 2 tables were dealer dealt though which kept it the same speed so was good

One thing I encountered was that a friend of mine, who writes for my magazine (out november, selfless promotion) was refused entry by Joe the cardroom manager, who told him that he couldn't play as he was a pro, however he couldn't understand that he writes articles for poker magazines.  He had also brought his girlfriend to play the event with him.  Thought that Des might like to use that information as poker is not his sole living as he runs a company.

I was impressed I won a seat though :)  finished 3rd took a bad beat but hey its poker

Mel - this is on the APAT web site - not sure if its relevant?  It may be seen that poker and running a poker mag are like section b?


For the avoidance of doubt, Membership of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour is not available to any individual who earns his or her SOLE income as a result of a) playing poker or b) utilising their poker expertise to supplement their poker income away from the table, for example, a professional poker player who also earns a fee as a TV poker analyst.

Tracey

never questioned

Thanks for info but no, he is solely interviewer and writes articles of gossip in a whole load of magazines, also runs his own company and I could have gone blue in the face with arguing but it was just not worth the hassle.  Once "The Vic" has spoken pretty much f**ked

What a shame - lets hope it gets picked up and corrected for the future.

Thx hun, yes I had half my stack in the pot, he went all in after the flop and my 1k bet, I had to call it my KK against his QJ with a Q83 rainbow flop, he showed QJ and I was ahead until a J on the turn card, I was gutted, I sat for a good hour after that before playing another hand, just to calm down and get past it.

You were sitting opposite Phil's wife btw so you both were sitting beside Starr's ;)

Cya next month in Edinburgh