Title: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Pawprint on April 14, 2009, 02:53:22 PM The PFA player of the year nominees have been announced.
Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United) Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) Ryan Giggs (Manchester United) Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United) Edwin van der Sar (Manchester United) Nemanja Vidic (Manchester United) Now, I'm a Man Utd fan, but have to admit, this shortlist seems a little one-sided. No Torres, Fabregas, plus others. Apparantely the voting took place before United's recent dip in form, but still seems a strange shortlist. Young Player shortlist is Gabriel Agbonlahor (Aston Villa) Rafael Da Silva (Manchester United) Jonny Evans (Manchester United) Stephen Ireland (Manchester City) Aaron Lennon (Tottenham Hotspur) Ashley Young (Aston Villa) I'd like to see Ryan Giggs win the main award, but I think he will get beaten by Gerrard for the top honour. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: AndrewT on April 14, 2009, 02:57:36 PM This is voted for by the players themselves - maybe they just inherently view playing again Man Utd as tougher than against other teams.
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on April 14, 2009, 02:59:53 PM Stephen Ireland, Man City, no?
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Pawprint on April 14, 2009, 03:04:08 PM Stephen Ireland, Man City, no? lol, got carried away typing Man U so many time. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Pawprint on April 14, 2009, 03:11:47 PM This is voted for by the players themselves - maybe they just inherently view playing again Man Utd as tougher than against other teams. I think you could be right there. Usually though the players are the ones that see through the media hype and are able to pick a genuine list. Assuming all 6 make the PFA XI for the season, my XI would be van der Sar Essien Ferdinand Vidic Evra Ronaldo Gerrard Fabregas Giggs Torres Rooney Heavily Man U based, but have to put in the 5 from the shortlist, Evra is best left back by miles and Rooney is having his best season for years with few other strikers in the premiership really shining. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: dino1980 on April 14, 2009, 03:37:52 PM I really don't think Giggs deserves to be in the top six and think his contribution to Man Utd this season has been totally over hyped. He's scored one goal and made more appearences from the bench than he has started games. Now some may argue that this is precisely why Giggs should be included, but i disagree. He isn't even in Utd's first choice 11. IMO someone like Michael Carrick would be much more deserving of a place on the shortlist. There's no bias here - I support Exeter City - but i also think players like Mascherano and Hangelland deserve a spot above Ronaldo, who despite scoring 15 league goals this season, has been distinctly average for the most part.
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Josedinho on April 14, 2009, 03:44:50 PM No Torres and Fabregas isn't a surprise. They've been injured alot and talentwise Torres may be the best striker in the world but he hasn't had an outstanding season. Alot of football opinions seem to sway depending on form (eg Essien in a team of the season when he must have only played a handful of games) but over the season i reckon Vidic and Ireland should win.
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: TheChipPrince on April 14, 2009, 03:50:33 PM Now, I'm a Man Utd fan, but have to admit, this shortlist seems a little one-sided. No Torres, Fabregas, plus others. ;dingdell; I think you could be right there. Usually though the players are the ones that see through the media hype and are able to pick a genuine list. Assuming all 6 make the PFA XI for the season, my XI would be van der Sar Essien Ferdinand Vidic Evra Ronaldo Gerrard Fabregas Giggs Torres Rooney Heavily Man U based, but have to put in the 5 from the shortlist, Evra is best left back by miles and Rooney is having his best season for years with few other strikers in the premiership really shining. ;gobsmacked; ;dingdell; Essien, you jest surely?! He's play 5 Prem games!!!!!!!!! Fabregas has barely played since Xmas... Ronaldo has been poor this season by his standards, Rooney?! Wow, I must be in parallel Universe where Jagielka, Alonso, Cahill, Young & Agbonlahor, (for the first 6 months), Hangeland, Rob Green, Michael Turner, Matt Taylor have actually had good seasons! [ ] Big names FTW Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Josedinho on April 14, 2009, 03:55:49 PM Adding to this my team of the season (so far) would be
Reina Arbeloa Vidic Ferdinand Figureoa Ireland Gerrard Fellaini Ronaldo Davies Anelka Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Colchester Kev on April 14, 2009, 03:56:54 PM No Tevez = No justice
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Nem on April 14, 2009, 04:03:52 PM This is voted for by the players themselves - maybe they just inherently view playing again Man Utd as tougher than against other teams. I think you could be right there. Usually though the players are the ones that see through the media hype and are able to pick a genuine list. Assuming all 6 make the PFA XI for the season, my XI would be van der Sar Essien Ferdinand Vidic Evra Ronaldo Gerrard Fabregas Giggs Torres Rooney Heavily Man U based, but have to put in the 5 from the shortlist, Evra is best left back by miles and Rooney is having his best season for years with few other strikers in the premiership really shining. ridiculous list imo. Essien and Fabregas are excellent players' but they've hardly played this season. Giggs? WTF? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Pawprint on April 14, 2009, 04:11:19 PM This is voted for by the players themselves - maybe they just inherently view playing again Man Utd as tougher than against other teams. I think you could be right there. Usually though the players are the ones that see through the media hype and are able to pick a genuine list. Assuming all 6 make the PFA XI for the season, my XI would be van der Sar Essien Ferdinand Vidic Evra Ronaldo Gerrard Fabregas Giggs Torres Rooney Heavily Man U based, but have to put in the 5 from the shortlist, Evra is best left back by miles and Rooney is having his best season for years with few other strikers in the premiership really shining. ridiculous list imo. Essien and Fabregas are excellent players' but they've hardly played this season. Giggs? WTF? I hear what you are saying, but the PFA shortlist names 6 players, so that leaves 5 more to pick. Two fullbacks, a central midfielder and two strikers. I wouldn't have Giggs in there. Young has had a much better season. I also thnk van der Sar isn't the best keeper this season, but it would appear he has been nominated for the clean sheets record. I don't think that there has been a real stand out player this year (Ronaldo, Henry in previous years). Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Pawprint on April 14, 2009, 04:16:29 PM No Tevez = No justice Fair comment, and I really like his workrate for the team, but would he be in his clubs starting XI with everyone fit ? He's started half the games this season and scored 3 goals. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: jizzemm on April 14, 2009, 04:21:03 PM Out of that list it must be
Gerrard and Ireland imo.. Tevez should be there, giggs wtf?? so many non big names should be there as well. . . Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Nem on April 14, 2009, 04:24:49 PM No Tevez = No justice Fair comment, and I really like his workrate for the team, but would he be in his clubs starting XI with everyone fit ? He's started half the games this season and scored 3 goals. I rate Van Der Sar highly, but how much was he the reason ManYoo were keeping clean sheets? I ask you this as you watch their games more than I do, but I think Vidic annd Ferdinand/Evans + Carrick were maybe more of a reason why they kept that many clean sheets. My team Schwarzer Bosingwa Ferdinand Vidic Clichy Ronaldo Gerrard Carrick Young Anelka C Cole Some unfashionable names, but they have all been outstanding this season. Davies for Bolton has been excellent but I chose Cole because Davies is a donkey. ;-) Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Pawprint on April 14, 2009, 04:28:07 PM I rate Van Der Sar highly, but how much was he the reason ManYoo were keeping clean sheets? I ask you this as you watch their games more than I do, but I think Vidic annd Ferdinand/Evans + Carrick were maybe more of a reason why they kept that many clean sheets. Spot on. He has looked dodgy over the past few games when there has not been a stable back four in front of him. It's an impressive clean sheet record, but I think that the credit goes more to the defensive unit in front of him than his keeping abilities this season. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: The Camel on April 14, 2009, 04:45:23 PM No Tevez = No justice Fair comment, and I really like his workrate for the team, but would he be in his clubs starting XI with everyone fit ? He's started half the games this season and scored 3 goals. I rate Van Der Sar highly, but how much was he the reason ManYoo were keeping clean sheets? I ask you this as you watch their games more than I do, but I think Vidic annd Ferdinand/Evans + Carrick were maybe more of a reason why they kept that many clean sheets. My team Schwarzer Bosingwa Ferdinand Vidic Clichy Ronaldo Gerrard Carrick Young Anelka C Cole Some unfashionable names, but they have all been outstanding this season. Davies for Bolton has been excellent but I chose Cole because Davies is a donkey. ;-) LOLZ @ Carlton Cole. Thought your team was serious until then. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Nem on April 14, 2009, 04:48:23 PM No Tevez = No justice Fair comment, and I really like his workrate for the team, but would he be in his clubs starting XI with everyone fit ? He's started half the games this season and scored 3 goals. I rate Van Der Sar highly, but how much was he the reason ManYoo were keeping clean sheets? I ask you this as you watch their games more than I do, but I think Vidic annd Ferdinand/Evans + Carrick were maybe more of a reason why they kept that many clean sheets. My team Schwarzer Bosingwa Ferdinand Vidic Clichy Ronaldo Gerrard Carrick Young Anelka C Cole Some unfashionable names, but they have all been outstanding this season. Davies for Bolton has been excellent but I chose Cole because Davies is a donkey. ;-) LOLZ @ Carlton Cole. Thought your team was serious until then. good job I saved him til last. who would you pick instead? Agbonlahor maybe but the last 2 months he's been poor. Berbs, Adebayour, Drogba, Van Persie and Torres have all been hot and cold or injured. Davies deserves a mention but at least Cole has *some* pedigree. ;p Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: scotty2hatty on April 14, 2009, 05:31:27 PM Pawprint, this is season 08/09 right?
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Jim-D on April 14, 2009, 05:39:38 PM I support Exeter City dino you from Exeter? if so where abouts and do you get to the true St James' much? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Pawprint on April 14, 2009, 05:51:43 PM Pawprint, this is season 08/09 right? lol, sure is. Look, the PFA shortlist gives you 6 players, so I am adding 5 to that. Essien (Okay, hardly played, but I struggle to find a consistent right back this season in the prem) Evra Fabregas (Not played loads, but has started in more than half Arsenals games, and more than Giggs, and has been class when playing) Torres Rooney (Has been United's most consistent striker this season. Again others deserve a shout, Davies and Agbonlohor for definite) It's just an opinion. Personally I think that the PFA Shortlist is wrong, but as someone mentioned previously, that's voted for by the players, so what do I know ? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Nem on April 14, 2009, 06:19:12 PM Essien (Okay, hardly played, but I struggle to find a consistent right back this season in the prem) Bosingwa, Glenn Johnson, even Corluka at spurs. ;-) United fans eh, just because they don't have a consistent RB, the whole footballing world don't! Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: sweet potata! on April 14, 2009, 07:03:35 PM Essien (Okay, hardly played, but I struggle to find a consistent right back this season in the prem) Bosingwa, Glenn Johnson, even Corluka at spurs. ;-) United fans eh, just because they don't have a consistent RB, the whole footballing world don't! Obv im bias but i think Arbeloa has improved a hell of alot this season, also Alonso really needs to be mentioned if Gerrard is in then Xabi deserves a spot. Other players who have impressed this season imo Clichy Davies Agbonlahor Young Fellaini Jagielka Shawcross Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: The Baron on April 14, 2009, 07:34:04 PM Van Der Sar
Bosingwa Ferdinand Vidic Clichy Alonso (..... or Carrick hahahahahahahaha!) Gerrard Ronaldo Young Anelka Rooney Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Jim-D on April 14, 2009, 07:39:21 PM Van Der Sar Bosingwa Ferdinand Vidic Evra Alonso (or Carrick) Gerrard Ronaldo Young Anelka Rooney Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: booder on April 14, 2009, 07:39:49 PM No Tevez = No justice Fair comment, and I really like his workrate for the team, but would he be in his clubs starting XI with everyone fit ? He's started half the games this season and scored 3 goals. I rate Van Der Sar highly, but how much was he the reason ManYoo were keeping clean sheets? I ask you this as you watch their games more than I do, but I think Vidic annd Ferdinand/Evans + Carrick were maybe more of a reason why they kept that many clean sheets. My team Schwarzer Bosingwa Ferdinand Vidic Clichy Ronaldo Gerrard Carrick Young Anelka C Cole Some unfashionable names, but they have all been outstanding this season. Davies for Bolton has been excellent but I chose Cole because Davies is a donkey. ;-) no Bent ? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: The Baron on April 14, 2009, 07:42:43 PM Van Der Sar Bosingwa Ferdinand Vidic Evra Alonso (or Carrick) Gerrard Ronaldo Young Anelka Rooney You jest obv. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Nem on April 14, 2009, 08:02:50 PM No Tevez = No justice Fair comment, and I really like his workrate for the team, but would he be in his clubs starting XI with everyone fit ? He's started half the games this season and scored 3 goals. I rate Van Der Sar highly, but how much was he the reason ManYoo were keeping clean sheets? I ask you this as you watch their games more than I do, but I think Vidic annd Ferdinand/Evans + Carrick were maybe more of a reason why they kept that many clean sheets. My team Schwarzer Bosingwa Ferdinand Vidic Clichy Ronaldo Gerrard Carrick Young Anelka C Cole Some unfashionable names, but they have all been outstanding this season. Davies for Bolton has been excellent but I chose Cole because Davies is a donkey. ;-) no Bent ? Nope because he is absolute wank. Still better than Keane though :)up Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: TightEnd on April 14, 2009, 08:04:30 PM http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/14/pfa-player-of-the-year-nominees
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Jim-D on April 14, 2009, 08:06:30 PM Van Der Sar Bosingwa Ferdinand Vidic Evra Alonso (or Carrick) Gerrard Ronaldo Young Anelka Rooney You jest obv. Why? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: The Baron on April 14, 2009, 08:21:22 PM Carrick has been inconsistent. Alonso has been excellent all year.
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Jim-D on April 14, 2009, 08:23:39 PM Carrick has been inconsistent. Alonso has been excellent all year. Fair point, hence why he's in brackets (although without the laughs) FWIW i believe Alonso to be a truely class player and would be in my world XI starting midfield Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: The Baron on April 14, 2009, 08:25:10 PM Carrick has been inconsistent. Alonso has been excellent all year. Fair point, hence why he's in brackets (although without the laughs) FWIW i believe Alonso to be a truely class player and would be in my world XI starting midfield (The laughs are for Nemesis!) ;) Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Nem on April 14, 2009, 09:02:08 PM Carrick has been inconsistent. Alonso has been excellent all year. Fair point, hence why he's in brackets (although without the laughs) FWIW i believe Alonso to be a truely class player and would be in my world XI starting midfield (The laughs are for Nemesis!) ;) They're playing in different positions this season. Carrick is the out and out DCM and Alonso is more CM with Mascherano as DCM. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: The Baron on April 14, 2009, 09:38:06 PM Carrick has been inconsistent. Alonso has been excellent all year. Fair point, hence why he's in brackets (although without the laughs) FWIW i believe Alonso to be a truely class player and would be in my world XI starting midfield (The laughs are for Nemesis!) ;) They're playing in different positions this season. Carrick is the out and out DCM and Alonso is more CM with Mascherano as DCM. True dat. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: booder on April 14, 2009, 09:46:05 PM No Tevez = No justice Fair comment, and I really like his workrate for the team, but would he be in his clubs starting XI with everyone fit ? He's started half the games this season and scored 3 goals. I rate Van Der Sar highly, but how much was he the reason ManYoo were keeping clean sheets? I ask you this as you watch their games more than I do, but I think Vidic annd Ferdinand/Evans + Carrick were maybe more of a reason why they kept that many clean sheets. My team Schwarzer Bosingwa Ferdinand Vidic Clichy Ronaldo Gerrard Carrick Young Anelka C Cole Some unfashionable names, but they have all been outstanding this season. Davies for Bolton has been excellent but I chose Cole because Davies is a donkey. ;-) no Bent ? Nope because he is absolute wank. i'm beginning to like you Nem :D Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Nem on April 14, 2009, 09:47:30 PM Carrick has been inconsistent. Alonso has been excellent all year. Fair point, hence why he's in brackets (although without the laughs) FWIW i believe Alonso to be a truely class player and would be in my world XI starting midfield (The laughs are for Nemesis!) ;) They're playing in different positions this season. Carrick is the out and out DCM and Alonso is more CM with Mascherano as DCM. True dat. Still Carrick has more goals in open play and more assists. I'm trying to find a site where it will also show me tackle %'s and pass completion rates, where I expect Carrick to be ahead in both of them as well. Carrick plays for Manchester United. Alonso plays for Lolpool. Also didn't the Fat Waiter want to swap Alonso for Gareth Barry? I could never imagine Ferguson doing that with Carrick. You never know though...;-) Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Pawprint on April 15, 2009, 12:06:21 AM http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/14/pfa-player-of-the-year-nominees Sums up the reason why I started the thread much better than I could. Cheers Tighty. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: The Baron on April 15, 2009, 01:34:27 AM Carrick has been inconsistent. Alonso has been excellent all year. Fair point, hence why he's in brackets (although without the laughs) FWIW i believe Alonso to be a truely class player and would be in my world XI starting midfield (The laughs are for Nemesis!) ;) They're playing in different positions this season. Carrick is the out and out DCM and Alonso is more CM with Mascherano as DCM. True dat. Still Carrick has more goals in open play and more assists. I'm trying to find a site where it will also show me tackle %'s and pass completion rates, where I expect Carrick to be ahead in both of them as well. Carrick plays for Manchester United. Alonso plays for Lolpool. Also didn't the Fat Waiter want to swap Alonso for Gareth Barry? I could never imagine Ferguson doing that with Carrick. You never know though...;-) Firstly the pass completion may be higher as it's a % and he plays less games than Alonso. Secondly Utd play more attacking football than anyone else in the opposition half so again this stat may be in his favour. Thirdly Carrick isn't always a certainty to start in the big, big games vs better opposition where losing the ball more and making worse passes is a certainty. Opta will show you these stats anyway, but you cant measure influence though and I think you know my opinion on that one. After a season of being average Alonso was on his way out yes. I doubt that'd happen now though. He's been awesome this season. Back to how he was when he got here. In fairness to Carrick he'll be better once Hargreaves is there to do the donkey work, al la Alonso/Mascherano although I cant knock Fletcher anymore tbh. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: maldini32 on April 15, 2009, 01:57:01 AM I really dont know what to make of the nominations. Obviously the players vote for them hence there gonna be different to most fans.
A few players who havent made who really should be there imo are Alonso, Hangelaand, Cahill and Danny Murphy. And Lol @ thinkin Carrick will ever be as good as Alonso. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: david3103 on April 16, 2009, 01:41:14 PM Carrick has been inconsistent. Alonso has been excellent all year. Haven't seen enough of Alonso, but Carrick has faded in the last month. His vanishing act against L'pool at OT was part of the problem for us that day, and his carelessness in possession last night almost cost us dear. I know the PFA Award is supposed to be based on the season in question, but I'd love to see Giggs get it for all those years of excellence which have gone before. I suspect that Gerrard will get it because the United votes will be split - as Ginola did in '99 Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Longy on April 16, 2009, 02:32:50 PM I suspect that Gerrard will get it because the United votes will be split - as Ginola did in '99 Gerrard will win because he has been the best player in this country this season. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: TheChipPrince on April 26, 2009, 11:48:49 PM Giggs wtf?
Sentimental voting it is then! Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Steelio on April 26, 2009, 11:55:31 PM Absolute joke giggs winning
Beckford scores 33 in 34 starts in all comps yet not in L1 team of the year Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Colchester Kev on April 27, 2009, 12:12:06 AM LOL Burnley in play off spot, 2 amazing cup runs and dont get a player in the championship side.
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: TheChipPrince on April 27, 2009, 12:26:22 AM LOL Burnley in play off spot, 2 amazing cup runs and dont get a player in the championship side. A case of a solid team effort all round rather than any outstanding individuals? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: maldini32 on April 27, 2009, 12:50:34 AM LOL Burnley in play off spot, 2 amazing cup runs and dont get a player in the championship side. A case of a solid team effort all round rather than any outstanding individuals? Surely Robbie Blake's gotta be in there? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on April 27, 2009, 08:06:23 AM Giggs wtf? Sentimental voting it is then! [ ] Giggs deserved it this year. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: The Baron on April 27, 2009, 09:50:37 AM Giggs wtf? Sentimental voting it is then! [ ] Giggs deserved it this year. Isn't it something like 12 starts and one goal this season.... Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Acidmouse on April 27, 2009, 09:52:33 AM 1 leeds player in the league 1 team. ROFL no room for the most prolific scorer in the country 32 goals in 33 games...wow gg.
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on April 27, 2009, 10:00:05 AM Giggs wtf? Sentimental voting it is then! [ ] Giggs deserved it this year. Isn't it something like 12 starts and one goal this season.... yep...don't forget the 12 times he came on as a sub though....I reckon they swayed it in his favour over someone like Stevie G. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 27, 2009, 10:21:29 AM Player of the year award becomes Lifetime contribution award.
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: DUNK619 on April 27, 2009, 11:19:04 AM lol at giggs what a joke
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Pawprint on April 27, 2009, 11:28:14 AM Giggs is a great player and a legend of the game.
He has been fantastic for United for so many years and one of the best players in the Premiership. But even he must have been a bit embarrassed to be picking up this award ? He's not played that much this season, has contributed well when on the pitch, but Gerrard and Vidic have had much much better seasons. It's the players votes that count though, although it does beg the question about how this award is decided ? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 27, 2009, 11:30:04 AM [ ] The majority of footballers aren't thick
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: George2Loose on April 27, 2009, 04:09:00 PM Problem is and always has been the timing of the vote- if this vote was taken when it should be- in April I think Gerrard would have probably pipped Vidic.
That being said I'm glad Giggs has won it- probably should have won it earlier in his career. It's been a poor quality season imo- no team/player has stood out. I think next year will be interesting. I can't see Liverpool mounting a chalenge again. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 27, 2009, 06:35:20 PM Problem is and always has been the timing of the vote- if this vote was taken when it should be- in April I think Gerrard would have probably pipped Vidic. That being said I'm glad Giggs has won it- probably should have won it earlier in his career. It's been a poor quality season imo- no team/player has stood out. I think next year will be interesting. I can't see Liverpool mounting a chalenge again. Which is the reason he's won it this season, isn't it? So it's a farce really? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: George2Loose on April 27, 2009, 07:04:31 PM Problem is and always has been the timing of the vote- if this vote was taken when it should be- in April I think Gerrard would have probably pipped Vidic. That being said I'm glad Giggs has won it- probably should have won it earlier in his career. It's been a poor quality season imo- no team/player has stood out. I think next year will be interesting. I can't see Liverpool mounting a chalenge again. Which is the reason he's won it this season, isn't it? So it's a farce really? Maybe. Tho when the voting was done Giggs was in great form. I think had the voting been done in April he wouldn't have won. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on April 27, 2009, 07:07:07 PM Problem is and always has been the timing of the vote- if this vote was taken when it should be- in April I think Gerrard would have probably pipped Vidic. That being said I'm glad Giggs has won it- probably should have won it earlier in his career. It's been a poor quality season imo- no team/player has stood out. I think next year will be interesting. I can't see Liverpool mounting a chalenge again. TBH I think Gerrard and Torres have been the best players by a country mile uptil now. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 27, 2009, 08:02:32 PM Problem is and always has been the timing of the vote- if this vote was taken when it should be- in April I think Gerrard would have probably pipped Vidic. That being said I'm glad Giggs has won it- probably should have won it earlier in his career. It's been a poor quality season imo- no team/player has stood out. I think next year will be interesting. I can't see Liverpool mounting a chalenge again. TBH I think Gerrard and Torres have been the best players by a country mile uptil now. Torres has missed too many games. Oh, that shouldn't rule him out though should it? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on April 27, 2009, 09:50:39 PM Problem is and always has been the timing of the vote- if this vote was taken when it should be- in April I think Gerrard would have probably pipped Vidic. That being said I'm glad Giggs has won it- probably should have won it earlier in his career. It's been a poor quality season imo- no team/player has stood out. I think next year will be interesting. I can't see Liverpool mounting a chalenge again. TBH I think Gerrard and Torres have been the best players by a country mile uptil now. Torres has missed too many games. Oh, that shouldn't rule him out though should it? fairlly sure he's done more than Giggs Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: George2Loose on April 27, 2009, 10:36:04 PM Problem is and always has been the timing of the vote- if this vote was taken when it should be- in April I think Gerrard would have probably pipped Vidic. That being said I'm glad Giggs has won it- probably should have won it earlier in his career. It's been a poor quality season imo- no team/player has stood out. I think next year will be interesting. I can't see Liverpool mounting a chalenge again. TBH I think Gerrard and Torres have been the best players by a country mile uptil now. Torres has missed too many games. Oh, that shouldn't rule him out though should it? fairlly sure he's done more than Giggs Not disagreeing but footie fans have short memories- cast your mind back to January. Cos that's when this is voted for!!! Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Nem on April 28, 2009, 05:44:14 PM Giggs = obv footballing legend but him winning this year makes a mockery of the award imo
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 28, 2009, 06:40:08 PM Giggs = obv footballing legend but him winning this year makes a mockery of the award imo This. Even the msot ardent Liverpool fan will acknowledge that both Giggs and Scholes are consummate professionals who are amongst the best to have played in the Premiership (since football began, ldo). But player of the year? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Josedinho on April 28, 2009, 08:31:51 PM Footie fans have short memories - that shouldn't matter as its voted by the players.
I don't think it's a mockery, agree or disagree at the time of voting Giggs is the player that most players thought was having the best season Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 28, 2009, 10:55:17 PM Footie fans have short memories - that shouldn't matter as its voted by the players. I don't think it's a mockery, agree or disagree at the time of voting Giggs is the player that most players thought was having the best season Which is like asking poker players who is the best player they've played against this year. That wouldn't be subjective at all would it? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: The Baron on April 28, 2009, 11:45:54 PM Giggs = obv footballing legend but him winning this year makes a mockery of the award imo This. Even the msot ardent Liverpool fan will acknowledge that both Giggs and Scholes are consummate professionals who are amongst the best to have played in the Premiership (since football began, ldo). But player of the year? I would have had little to moan about had Vidic won it. I'd have taken the piss about Torres tearing him a new arsehole at Old Trafford but the award would have been close to the mark if not directly on it. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 28, 2009, 11:52:17 PM Giggs = obv footballing legend but him winning this year makes a mockery of the award imo This. Even the msot ardent Liverpool fan will acknowledge that both Giggs and Scholes are consummate professionals who are amongst the best to have played in the Premiership (since football began, ldo). But player of the year? I would have had little to moan about had Vidic won it. I'd have taken the piss about Torres tearing him a new arsehole at Old Trafford but the award would have been close to the mark if not directly on it. Vidic had a bad game against a forward who is unplayable on his day. Much the same as Henry did to Carragher on a couple of occasions. It happens. Yes, for the rest of the season he's been much more like the player of the season than Giggs. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: sweet potata! on April 29, 2009, 12:02:01 AM Vidic had a bad game against a forward who is unplayable on his day. Much the same as Drogba does to Carragher constantly, It happens. Yes, for the rest of the season he's been much more like the player of the season than Giggs. FYP Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: david3103 on April 29, 2009, 12:43:08 PM http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/5232387/Ryan-Giggs-is-the-Premier-League-player-for-all-seasons.html
Yes it's long, and no, ABUs won't like it, so probably won't get past the first paragraph. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: GreekStein on April 29, 2009, 12:55:55 PM Please just delete this thread.
It's so tilting that these thick bastards voted for Giggs. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 29, 2009, 12:58:33 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards voted for Giggs. ;bump; Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: david3103 on April 29, 2009, 03:05:23 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that fyp Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 29, 2009, 03:16:15 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs for an award that isn't really applicable to him. fyp FYFYP Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: sweet potata! on April 29, 2009, 03:18:21 PM Lol i cant believe some people are actually trying to say Giggs won this award on merit and not sentiment.
[ ] people who thinks Giggs deserved it know there footie. [ ] They dont support ManU [X] I dont care that much anyway, its no big deal who won it Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 29, 2009, 03:19:16 PM I just like bumping the thread because it's tilting Cos.
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Josedinho on April 29, 2009, 03:27:26 PM [ ] people who thinks Giggs deserved it know there footie. All these people know a bit about football. They have managed to make it as professionals.Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: sweet potata! on April 29, 2009, 03:32:23 PM [ ] people who thinks Giggs deserved it know there footie. All these people know a bit about football. They have managed to make it as professionals.Sorry i must have mislead you i was kinda just referring to people on this thread Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on April 29, 2009, 03:35:11 PM [ ] people who thinks Giggs deserved it know there footie. All these people know a bit about football. They have managed to make it as professionals.Erm..they know how to play...that doesn't mean they understand the overall game...which is why sooo many top players become shit managers. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: GreekStein on April 29, 2009, 03:35:36 PM lol. The tilting bit is anyone who honestly believes that Giggs deserved this award. 12 starts where he's done nothing fantastic and some subs appearances - WOW. We've got the best league in the world with so many great players and Giggs gets this vote - ridiculous.
I hate pretty much any team that isn't Chelsea with a passion but wouldn't have begrudged this award to Gerard, Vidic etc... Give Giggs the Lifetime achievement award, the long serving player award...not this! Next thing you know they'll revoke Ronaldo's trophy from last season and give it to Eduardo because everyone felt a bit sorry for him. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: david3103 on April 29, 2009, 03:36:03 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: GreekStein on April 29, 2009, 03:36:34 PM [ ] people who thinks Giggs deserved it know there footie. All these people know a bit about football. They have managed to make it as professionals.Erm..they know how to play...that doesn't mean they understand the overall game...which is why sooo many top players become shit managers. It's not about understanding the game, it's about understanding what they should be voting for! Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on April 29, 2009, 03:43:11 PM [ ] people who thinks Giggs deserved it know there footie. All these people know a bit about football. They have managed to make it as professionals.Erm..they know how to play...that doesn't mean they understand the overall game...which is why sooo many top players become shit managers. It's not about understanding the game, it's about understanding what they should be voting for! lol...you really are tilting aren't you? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 29, 2009, 03:54:51 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, as deserving to be given the award as someone like Tevez. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: david3103 on April 29, 2009, 04:41:58 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 29, 2009, 05:04:11 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. But there are other players, such as Vidic and Gerrard who have achieved far more this season (or just in the first half of the season), who are far more worthy of the player of the year award. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards 385 yards - because of the Royal Family. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: pokerfan on April 29, 2009, 10:54:46 PM when were the votes cast?
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: david3103 on April 30, 2009, 08:46:45 AM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. But there are other players, such as Vidic and Gerrard who have achieved far more this season (or just in the first half of the season), who are far more worthy of the player of the year award. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards 385 yards - because of the Royle Family. 385yds my arse Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 30, 2009, 09:42:43 AM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. But there are other players, such as Vidic and Gerrard who have achieved far more this season (or just in the first half of the season), who are far more worthy of the player of the year award. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards 385 yards - because of the Royle Family. 385yds my arse :D Believe me, that sign that says 385 yards to go is one of the most welcome sights in the world! Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on April 30, 2009, 10:40:08 AM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. But there are other players, such as Vidic and Gerrard who have achieved far more this season (or just in the first half of the season), who are far more worthy of the player of the year award. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards 385 yards - because of the Royle Family. 385yds my arse :D Believe me, that sign that says 385 yards to go is one of the most welcome sights in the world! doesn't speed you up much though, does it? ;) Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 30, 2009, 11:08:58 AM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. But there are other players, such as Vidic and Gerrard who have achieved far more this season (or just in the first half of the season), who are far more worthy of the player of the year award. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards 385 yards - because of the Royle Family. 385yds my arse :D Believe me, that sign that says 385 yards to go is one of the most welcome sights in the world! doesn't speed you up much though, does it? ;) Oh but it did. Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on April 30, 2009, 12:13:56 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. But there are other players, such as Vidic and Gerrard who have achieved far more this season (or just in the first half of the season), who are far more worthy of the player of the year award. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards 385 yards - because of the Royle Family. 385yds my arse :D Believe me, that sign that says 385 yards to go is one of the most welcome sights in the world! doesn't speed you up much though, does it? ;) Oh but it did. 3hr 46mins and 11 seconds, my good slow-running friend... Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 30, 2009, 12:14:35 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. But there are other players, such as Vidic and Gerrard who have achieved far more this season (or just in the first half of the season), who are far more worthy of the player of the year award. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards 385 yards - because of the Royle Family. 385yds my arse :D Believe me, that sign that says 385 yards to go is one of the most welcome sights in the world! doesn't speed you up much though, does it? ;) Oh but it did. 3hr 46mins and 11 seconds, my good slow-running friend... Aye - not a bad time and nearly 14 minutes off my PB ;) Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: GreekStein on April 30, 2009, 12:19:53 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. But there are other players, such as Vidic and Gerrard who have achieved far more this season (or just in the first half of the season), who are far more worthy of the player of the year award. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards 385 yards - because of the Royle Family. 385yds my arse :D Believe me, that sign that says 385 yards to go is one of the most welcome sights in the world! doesn't speed you up much though, does it? ;) Oh but it did. 3hr 46mins and 11 seconds, my good slow-running friend... Aye - not a bad time and nearly 14 minutes off my PB ;) Get a room lads Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on April 30, 2009, 12:22:10 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. But there are other players, such as Vidic and Gerrard who have achieved far more this season (or just in the first half of the season), who are far more worthy of the player of the year award. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards 385 yards - because of the Royle Family. 385yds my arse :D Believe me, that sign that says 385 yards to go is one of the most welcome sights in the world! doesn't speed you up much though, does it? ;) Oh but it did. 3hr 46mins and 11 seconds, my good slow-running friend... Aye - not a bad time and nearly 14 minutes off my PB ;) Get a room lads Still tilting Cos? :D Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on April 30, 2009, 12:23:09 PM Please just delete this thread. It's so tilting that these thick bastards, his fellow professionals, appreciated what he has achieved in his career and voted for Giggs who is a Professional Footballer,and has played in the year in question and is thus eligible to be voted for as the Professional Footballer of the Year, and although eligible, is more deserving to be given the award than someone like Tevez or Torres since their achievements this year have not demostrated the depth of enduring talent which underpins the rationale for his peers votes. But there are other players, such as Vidic and Gerrard who have achieved far more this season (or just in the first half of the season), who are far more worthy of the player of the year award. fyp FYFYP FYFYFYP this could run and run... ...and run. and run for the whole 26 miles and some random amount of yards 385 yards - because of the Royle Family. 385yds my arse :D Believe me, that sign that says 385 yards to go is one of the most welcome sights in the world! doesn't speed you up much though, does it? ;) Oh but it did. 3hr 46mins and 11 seconds, my good slow-running friend... Aye - not a bad time and nearly 14 minutes off my PB ;) Get a room lads Still tilting Cos? :D oh yeah; GIGGSY FOR THE WIN!!! Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: GreekStein on April 30, 2009, 01:01:30 PM JUST WANT THIS BASTARD OF A THREAD TO GO AWAY!! EVERY TIME I CLICK 'SHOW NEW REPLIES TO YOUR POSTS' IT'S THERE.
[ X ] Thank God I'm not playing poker until the weekend [ ] Caps sure aren't annoying [ X ] Intentional Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on April 30, 2009, 01:13:59 PM JUST WANT THIS BASTARD OF A THREAD TO GO AWAY!! EVERY TIME I CLICK 'SHOW NEW REPLIES TO YOUR POSTS' IT'S THERE. [ X ] Thank God I'm not playing poker until the weekend [ ] Caps sure aren't annoying [ X ] Intentional [X] is thinking of a way to bump this thread daily while I'm on holiday and have no internetaccess :) Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: david3103 on April 30, 2009, 04:28:48 PM JUST WANT THIS BASTARD OF A THREAD TO GO AWAY!! EVERY TIME I CLICK 'SHOW NEW REPLIES TO YOUR POSTS' IT'S THERE. [ X ] Thank God I'm not playing poker until the weekend [ ] Caps sure aren't annoying [ X ] Intentional [X] is thinking of a way to bump this thread daily while I'm on holiday and have no internetaccess :) Ship me a tenner.... Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Nem on April 30, 2009, 04:54:20 PM JUST WANT THIS BASTARD OF A THREAD TO GO AWAY!! EVERY TIME I CLICK 'SHOW NEW REPLIES TO YOUR POSTS' IT'S THERE. [ X ] Thank God I'm not playing poker until the weekend [ ] Caps sure aren't annoying [ X ] Intentional [ ] can do check boxes [X] -ducy? Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: david3103 on May 01, 2009, 02:48:44 PM any thoughts on who might get the Football Writers' vote?
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: GreekStein on May 01, 2009, 02:52:40 PM Bobby Charlton
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Josedinho on May 01, 2009, 02:58:03 PM any thoughts on who might get the Football Writers' vote? I think it's generally accepted that Ryan Giggs deserves it this season....Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: Nem on May 01, 2009, 07:14:28 PM Bobby Charlton should have gone for George Best imo ;-) Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: david3103 on May 02, 2009, 03:13:13 PM Bobby Charlton should have gone for George Best imo ;-) or Duncan Edwards Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on May 10, 2009, 10:10:33 AM I'm surprised this thread hasn't died yet.
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: GreekStein on May 10, 2009, 12:54:10 PM ffs are u back?
Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on May 10, 2009, 03:52:51 PM Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: boldie on May 13, 2009, 09:17:21 AM FARCE; he lost!
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090513/tts-uk-soccer-england-award-bfb92cd.html Title: Re: PFA Awards Nominees Post by: kinboshi on May 13, 2009, 09:21:41 AM How can Gerrard beat Giggs to this award? Just not fair...
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