blonde poker forum

What with the grand prix and deepstack being televised, it'd be a good chance to get the forum/online cardroom some exposure. I'm sure if we all donned a patch, we'd get a nice bit of airtime and hopefully one of ships the lot.

Where can we get them from? Sure most members would be more than happy to wear them.

Also, it gives a chance for the newer members to meet everyone

i would be more than happy to contribute to the purchase of Blonde Poker Patches.

What does everyone else think??

i will wear one i dont mind

Also happy. Personalised ones with forum names would be sick lol

i would wear one on my work suit...

yup i think this is a really good idea. i'd be up for it. it's all about the airtime!

Get me one plz! x

Nice idea I will start the ball rolling.

I will donate £25 towards the cost of Blonde patches.

P.s It is about time Blonde had a paypal Donate button  

Regards

M

definately would donate and also wear a patch with PRIDE

I have mentioned the paypal donate button for years but the same old answer, Blonde Poker is not a charity! Get with the times :)

If it's Paypal why does it have to be a charity.

Can't you transfer money to another Paypal account?

Sorry for being behind the times.

Regards

M

They do. It's called "PLAY ON DTDPOKER.COM" :)

You are a genius. Hope YOU are raking more than me. :))

Regards

M   

Good idea am in.

In

We bought patches about two years ago, and they were popular

We ran out, didn't order again because of lack of funds

Will investigate current price and minimum order size and report back



If anyone wants to help with the cost then PM me and you can bank transfer direct to blonde and put it towards a fresh order.


Cheers

Can we get personalised ones with little country flags on like the pokerstars ones!

Not unless you want to spend a lot of money compared to the normal ones

In.

Can I get a blue one?

The whole point is they are affordable if bought in bulk, several hundred at a time

One offs, personalised etc...price goes up exponentially

I will enquire.

Somewhere I have a blondepoker shirt knocking about.

Had my username and my favourite hand printed on the back.

Shame it didn't fit...

Embroidered badge - 3" x 2" with Adhesive backing

Quantity/Unit Price/total order including P and P and VAT

25 £2.09 £64.33

50 £1.62 £98.64

100 £1.11 £134.54

200 £0.86 £206.74

300 £0.74 £266.67


I will order an amount depending on how much I raise by the end of the week. Delivery is 3 weeks but hopefully will get that shortened to 2 in time for the Grand Prix

PM me if you want to donate.

I've got 3 I can post to first pm.

The first of the televised events is this weekend.

too early for this order. Will hope to get them for the Grand Prix and the November £100,000 gtd

Which tv channel is covering the dtd events?

It looks as though the £50 with £15k gtd. this Saturday and the £100 with £30k gtd. the following Saturday 23rd.Oct. are also part of the televised series.

I'll say it quietly because I don't want to get shouted at...


Wouldn't it be nice to have some added money to compensate for being on tv.

Just a thought.

Lol.

It ain't gonna happen Keith.

In fact, they might not even allow the wearing of patches......

I'm not talking about alot of cash.

Just a wee bit to compensate the players for the annoyance of the cameras.

£2000?

Really don't know how players ever let it get to the point where a request for added money receives a "LOL" as an answer.

Can you think of another sport/game where the players shown on tv get zero for appearing?

Lack of a players body/negotiating team for the players in Poker...don't get that in many other games do you?

from the PFA through, the players everywhere else are represented by a trade body.

Poker players don't stand much of a chance in getting this value without it, I don't think

i prefer not to play on the tv table, not that I will have a chance lol

Can you refuse to be on the tv table?


I remember ivey paid everyone on the table some money in compensation for not being on the feature table in the wsop  

Sigh.

I was banging on about starting a players "union" about 10 years ago.

Needed someone with more get up and go than me to organise it though.

I imagine there are numerous lesser sports which are grateful for any TV coverage (to raise profile, & "be on telly") & do it for free, but I doubt many are inconvenienced by it as much as poker is.

You must nearly throw up in the WSOP ME when every "all-in & call" results in a 2 minute delay whilst they await the arrival of the ESPN floor crew, & then, while the 2 poor sods await their fate, they have to endure a further 45 second delay between flop & turn, & turn & river. (And 95% of those hands never get past the Edit Suite) That TV deal is absolutely HUGE, & effectively bankrolls the WSOP, but the players get diddly-squat - but here's the thing - nobody complains, they are all happy to accept it. Go figure. 

and a lot of vested interests amongst the important (in a securing added value sense) name pros to overcome too, as they have their gravy trains with the sites to protect...not open up to all potentially to get a piece of

In the context of the DTD events though is there not a huge difference?

Most sports people tune into see the favourite teams / players?
I cant see many people tuning into see Barry Neville swearing at Wadey on a Saturday night?

When I went deep in the WSOP main event I was involved in huge allin hand on Day 5 with Jeff Kimber.

We must have waited for 5 minutes for the tv cameras to come over and film the hand.

The wait was so painful, like being in the dock and waiting to hear the verdict.

I have been on tv tables a few times and it is a royal pain in the arse.

When I first suggested a players union there was no such thing as sponsored pros.

Then why do they want to televise an event?

There must be a market for it.

A small nod to the people provding the content of the programme is not unreasonable.

Actually youve changed my mind Keith. If there is demand for it then the players are providing the content and should receive something.

When I first thought about it, it was more the fact I cant imagine anyone wanting to watch it that made me think people shouldnt be paid.
This is obviously wrong or they wouldnt be filming it.

Maybe Mr Kendall could give me an idea of what sort of viewing figures and maybe even a rough idea of what Virgin whoever would be paying to show this?

Can't think of anything I'd rather watch than Barry Neville and Wadey conversing.

Question to Tighty/Mods - What is Jonny Hewston's involvement with DTD now? Is there a formal arrangement? I saw him organising some sort of TV sit n go the other week.

It's a question for DTD Cos. Yes I saw him there too but no I don't know the arrangement

Paying for it? You jest!

To the best of my knowledge, TV companies don't pay for poker content, WSOP & WPT-stylee Events excepted. 

They 100% do not pay for, for example, GUKPT-style coverage, ever. The TV Companies want free Content. I would imagine DTD have to find some funding to pay the TV Production Company, in fact.

Viewing figures for poker are barely measurable, & almost off the bottom of the scale. Hence the Poker Shows are always on at "dead tv" hours, Midnight, 1am, etc. If decent audiences were available, the Shows would be on at more sociable hours.

 

I think you do......;)

How do the TV production/recording companies make any money then?

Dead hours are a perfect time to be showing poker on tv imo anyway. alot of the target audience are going to be up at this time.

Who cares what time stuffs on with Sky+ anyway!  8)

The Production companies charge someone for it. The Production companies & the Channel are not usually connected. It's a buy-sell deal.

I've no idea of the DTD deal, but I'll wager any sum you like that the Virgin TV Channel are not making it. They are televising what someone will Contract to supply to them for free. Maybe DTD are paying, to raise the profile of DTD. The TV Channel deffo won't pay though.

That's the key phrase though, Mitch. "Target audience". Which, in TV terms, is miniscule.

My best guess is that the total audience for this will be the same 200 people who actually play it.

I would imagine the £50 and £100 comps are just warm ups to iron out any bugs for the £100k deepstack, the Grandprix and then the £1k.

i won a seat to the first partypokerwhateverthefuckitscalled donkament on terrestrial telly and barry hearn was laughing saying they went to party with a figure to make the show and they instaaccepted not even a hint of trying to negotiate

According to someone senior at DTD i spoke to last week the average viewing figure for this type of programme is approx 200 thousand.

Correct - it's how Matchroom works, & it works very well for them, too.

Matchroom, meanwhile, Contract to provide to Ch 4, 5, or Sky, x-hours of poker content per annum. For free.

So, the Sponsors get TV airtime to promote their product, the TV Channel gets a free Show, the Production Company makes a turn, and the artistes - the players - get..... 

RY said so in his diary

I think the viewing figures average around 200,000 on Virgin 1 at the time when the show will be broadcast

Hey Tikay, don't know how much you saw of the Day 1's at the EPT in London, but for me it was the first time EVER in an EPT that I can imagine where I felt like I was in the Rio. They were filming so many all-in showdowns taking several minutes sometimes to get over to each table because there was so little room. It was really inconvenient for the players (great for the press though as we knew where a showdown was going on).

I certainly did, I was there for both Day Ones, & scores of players were moaning & groaning about it. Even the more erudite, such as Tom Rutter, said it was OTT, & way too much. Play was intermittently delayed due to TV-Table issues. But it's never going to change.

Note I was there to get......TV Inteviews. ;)

And the Sponsors were queuing up to give us their badged players, scores of them, one after the other, all wearing their badges. We even got Ivey, which was, of course, at Tilt's request.

bumping the OP's point

Just wait til the world meets Frankie though.

Wouldnt suprise me if they re-comissioned another series of Big Brother for him.

BIG BROTHER: THE CHIPPYMAN SHOW

What I heard was that the Stars suits were asking, "Why aren't our Pros on the final table? We are paying them after all?" So they wanted feature coverage of Stars players on the Day 1's, then they'd cover the final with most likely none of said pros making it there. Obviously a Stars invitational tournament with their pros makes much more sense than this.

But I've heard it might all change in time for Barcelona.

Any other way than bank transfer tighty? I don't have Internet banking :(. Though iv got a friend who could do it. I'll pm you when I get home though

friend would be good, easiest way for me to pay the supplier is online without involving personal poker site accounts along the way


cheers

just been advised I need to order tomorrow

Thanks to those who have PMed so far

Sould be at least 100 being ordered, which is great

I can deliver on the Friday of the Grand Prix, or post....

ffs i'd forgotten about this, probably stray across it on ESPN Classic one day and insta-tilt...didn't u have aces and I had an ace with a worse kicker?! For what it's worth I think your point is very vaild keith but i don't see a way of forcing anything to change, apart from not playing in these pay us to make a tv programme channel 5 crapshoots which i've never played in. At least dear old ladbvrokes used to add a big wedge to the poker million, so as far as I was concerned that was game to do whatever with their structure. I guess u would be within your rights to refuse to play on the tv table and not inconvenience yourself with the tv cameras, refuse to show your hand etc etc but it will probably come over like youre the bad guy.

Full Tilt, probably amongst others, pay their pros a set fee to get on TV, $5k I think, which leads to rdic situations like the lmillion dollar cash game where players sit with 10k, are getting 5k to be there and give their personal overlay a spin. It also leads to fked up situations where their pros turn up to things like poker lounge knowing at least they get 5k of the buy in for being on tv, then find out tehy're not selected as one of the three permitted to wear the same badge and they therefore forfeit their 5k and are left to pay for themselves.

No, geezer raised utg, you 3bet utg+1 with AQ and I shoved utg+2 with KK.

We are left standing there waiting for the board to be dealt while the cameras finished up filming two other allins. I swear it took nearly 10 minutes.

Really the whole sponsorship system in poker is fcked up imo.

Take away Ivey, Dwan and maybe a couple of others and the sponsored pros add very little to their sites.

The sites would be far better off using the millions they waste on sponsorship adding value to tournaments or running a series of events where the top prize is to become a sponsored pro.

Forget blondepoker, can I get a 'Barry Neville Pyrotechnics' patch please Tighty?

I'll see if I can get some, just like Barry

(http://www.roadtransport.com/blogs/big-lorry-blog/6457%20Lorry%20back_large.jpg)

How much is a lot of money. If you get them sewn into a short they can be reused. I need some anyway for this and APAT events if there are any going, more than happy to pay/donate for them.

No idea yet


the unit price for a single non specilalised one is north of £2, so I'd guess a £5 plus p and p plus time spent working out a design

Work out what you want, send it to me and I'll see if I can order it

Hmm.......maybe something along those lines might be do-able. Needs to be a Site that thinks a bit outside the box, though. ;)

Has anyone ever refused to play on the TV table,can you ?

size?  might not get hero'd quite so frequently..........actually scratch that.

Ordering 200 patches, thanks to everyone who contributed

Will send them around when they land here, hopefully in time for the Grand Prix

will wear for grand priz.

Ivey did it one day in the year he finalled the main iirc.

Has anyone checked to see if they will be allowed to wear them?

Excellent :) Will you start a new thread or will I PM u details?

PM me your address OR see me on the Friday/Sunday of the Grand Prix. I can't be there on the Saturday.

Not formally no. Never been a problem before with TV companies, but you never know

The wider point is that these can be worn at GUKPTs/other festivals too, so should gain plenty of exposure round the circuit

bring some along to APAT next week, then when I win blonde will get significant media exposure :)

sure thing.

If you have them in time for APAT Luton I'll buy a couple please.

I will see you on the fridar tighty for mine if thatsok

i shiped you my address, but can leave £$ wherever

how much was raised in the end?

£225

WP all now lets source some nice polo shirts/hoodies tighty and lets have another fund raiser or internet tourney,

Blonde polo shirts would be good, they could be made the same as the apat ones? Obviously you would need a few people to be interested before making it worthwhile but I would buy one and I'm sure nobody would mind if Blonde made a bit of profit out of it as well !!!!

Can I also have a patch for Luton on 23rd please.

the polo shirts some of us have from the team event in blackpool are really good and were pretty cheap, think kinboshi fell out with the suppliers though, something to do with 10% of the cost being put towards a new roof for the church. def better than the apat ones. be good if anyone knows a company who can make some the same

There are hundreds, probably thousands of local companies that will do personalised Polo shirts and shit.
I've used workwear express a lot - their current offer is 50 Polo shirts for £199+VAT. Those shirts are fine and wear pretty well but are at the bottom end of the range. (think 77 not QQ+)
The better quality offerings run out at £6.99+VAT (£8.21) if you buy 20+, cheaper still for 50+

Quality of service is great and the owners are genuinely ok people. The range of products is huge.

Like I say, there are loads of businesses out there doing this, but you could do far worse than this lot.

Maybe Tighty could get a list of people who would be willing to contribute for a shirt on an individual basis as i know i certainly would and if we could get a list upwards of 50 and everyone do a bank transfer Blonde can get even more exposure around the circuit???

Sigh  ;D


Will dust off the clothing clipboard


Go on then


If you want a blonde poker embroidered polo, stick your name down


How many, colours, size (PM if you prefer)


I'll need bank transfers up front. Not providing any credit for me to chase monies after the product has been delivered


Will order if I get enough demand

I will take one in black and one in white if possible and will transfer the £14 to the account i sent the money for the patches to after the weekend mate, will pm you when shipped.
Are you going to use the company mentioned above or source your own??
Black in large/  white in medium
TYTY

^^^^^  plus vat obv

We had a previous supplier, and Kinboshi sourced some too a while back.

Will ring around, including the supplier mentioned by David

Count me in will send £16.45 as discussed with ref Eso Kral if its any more let me know when i see you

me LARGE please

with rice, or without? Noodles?

hoooooodies?

will enquire and revert.

with noodles obv

In for a hoodie and a polo if u can get Girgy sizes?

Haven't got a clue what size Girgy size is, but from past experience both extremes of size cost more, especially anything bigger than XXL

I had to buy some 5XL polos a while back for one of my drivers - each shirt cost c£13 at a time when I was buying the 50 for £199...

Tighty, see pm

Cheers

When u know who ur ordering off can u post size charts plz?

Wanna make sure if I order that I get the correct size!

Cheers

If you end up getting them

I'll have two polo shirts - Medium please
and a hoodie if they are going

Can either transfer the money or pay you at a live event

Do we know how much the hoodies will be?

Please get decent quality this time as you really do get what you pay for.

Yes please, hoodie + 2 polo shirts sounds kewl. I'll have chow mein with that pls.

Can we have our own Peter Jetten buttons but with Frankie on pls?!?!?!?!!?


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can anyone answer cos's question as to texas jonnys involvement in dtd. cheers

I'd take a polo and a hoodie, black is good, size XL.

Agree with Beanie about the Frankie button too!

Bit like this?!

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/177/isit.jpg)

i will take 5 frankie badges pls

want any of these ldo?


(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3586/contracts.jpg)

lol u been going through my pics on facebook?

lol

 :dontask:

you'll need to ask Simon on the stickied DTD News and views thread, or Rob on his diary thread, Rick.

Ask where one of them will see the question

or you could pm me the answer plz ;)

I don't know the answer beyond that Mr Hewston was there when I was there last, the weekend of the last Deepstack. With a film crew in tow, and they created a SNG on the feature table to practice filming for a TV advert, as the 300 people there would have seen and heard announced.

What's the chances of the shirts and stuff being ready for the deepstack? Prices?

NOT ENOUGH LOVE IMO

Any news on Hoodie costs yet?

Nope. Not yet.

I need a lot more interest (less than 10 peopleto date) before I put the time in to arranging this

Once the rest see the quality of the gear and how good we look in em then they will all want one imo!!

I will be no 11..

Details Please.

is that for polo shirts as well?

Sure. Need to order in a suitable quantity, really

Lets see if this prod gets some more interest

Anybody who wants a hoody say IN imo. Can easy get to 20+

IN

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/177/isit.jpg)

IS IT?!?


IN!

why doesn't someone who actually wants them look into pricing rather than getting tighty to do it? Doubt this even makes his 17 item to do list

it's a bit chicken and egg at the moment. you're more likely to get people showing an interest if they have an idea on price/can see a mock up

Have no experience of doing this, but if someone gives me a website and an image I'll get onto it.

http://hoodiehut.co.uk/

http://www.banana-moon-clothing.co.uk/personalised-hoodies.php

http://www.visualbranding.co.uk/hoodies.asp

Tighty will have to help with the image!

Cheers Pee Leno

Bongo will have a jpg/eps of the blonde Logo

It's an awkward logo, embroidered is the only way to go

http://hoodiehut.co.uk/hoodie-printing-examples.html

Blonde logo on breast and on the back il have GIRGY then number 85 underneath like they do on football shirts!

no need to go embrodered, on polo shirts anyway, the ones we have are printed

jay leno, pm me your email address and I'll send you photos of front and back of my one to give you an idea

yes I know the Blackpool ones were. IMO they looked odd, printed. I could be in a minority on that


the polos from 2006-07 were embroidered

embroidered will be alot better and will last longer than the printed ones imo

THIS^^^^

Just my two cents of information for you,

Embroidered will cost more but look better for the breast logo, however if you want names and numbers on the back these will have to be printed.  Embroidering a large area like that would cost a fortune.  I have a contact that does this sort of thing, I'll try and get approx prices from him based on 20 or so units, not sure he'll be the cheapest but I'll report back.

cool, let m,e know and if too expensive ill get us another quote.

Also in for the name and whatever on the back. Favourite hand on the back maybe?

My advice would be embroider on the left front/breast and no lettering on the back

We did that before on a large scale order in 2005-6, increases the cost a lot

how much did it cost back then?


i dont mind paying abit more for it to be embroided  

not too fused about the name or favourite hand on it. As it will effect the resale value ;)

from memory, polos £14. I would need to speak to Kev to be sure

I am also IN for a hoody.

From Silo Graham


Set up charge £30
Embroider polos and hoodies with breast logo - Polos at £9.50, Hoodies at £15.50
This doesn't include names and numbers on the back, only for the breast logo
Price is based on 20 of each unit.  The set up charge could be absorbed into the price of the shirt.

Prices exclude vat so needs to be factored in, especially with the change coming up soon,don't want to get caught out.  Postage also needs to be accounted for.

Need people who are genuinely interested to say so and I think £20 would cover everything and if needs be we can put a couple of quid in extra later on. As stated we need 20 people to agree, so if you are interested please post and when there are 20 definites I will start trying to sort out payment to blonde and then we can get the ball rolling. Ideally this would be sorted for the Grand Priz, but more likely will beready for Decembers £300 onwards imo.

Embroider polos and hoodies with breast logo - Polos at £9.50, Hoodies at £15.50

  info..A good quality polo shirt should cost you no more than £5.00, Blonde logo emb on  left chest aprox £1.50,, individual names emb on right chest £2.00
DTD logo right sleeve £1.50, origination of logos £30.00 each
if you are paying more than this you are not getting a good deal!
please dont get tied into large quantities  6 garments should be about the min required

Need football style names on back IMO! Willing to pay for a hoodie and polo!

Just to confirm I am alos happy to pay for 2 polos and a hoodie.

I am in for 2 pols and a hoodie and can transfer money to the blonde account shipped for the  patches or give to Tighty on friday at the Grand prix

You've obtained a quote or is this mearly a comment?

Put me down for a Hoodie... 

If you let me know what format you need the logo in I will see what I can sort out for you.

Put me down for 2 Double Cheeseburgers with fries, a fanta and a McFlurry

egg mcmuffin imo



HOOOODY + POLO (need some clean clothes lol)


I WANT IS IT ON THE FRONT/BACK/TOP/BOTTOM OF MINE PLS

Dont forget to order the extra wide kneck area so you can pull it over your hat. I take it is still stuck to your head?

I intend to wear a hat to DTD for the grand prix, however I intend to break from tradition and model a new look that I hope to be purchasing soon, if that falls through then it will be ed hardy old school forever!

back to original topic, patches? we getting them or sacking them off?

they are ordered, foir delivery next thursday to me

Can MamaG and I have one on Friday at the Grand Prix please?

Yup

£5 each

Fold

You're  paying him and his mum £5 to wear them?

Wiiiiiiiiiiiii

Hi the 200 patches arrived this morning


In the next fortnight, for those who want one or donated towards some

I am

DTD Grand Prix Friday pre-tournament
SPT Blackpool Saturday
DTD Grand Prix Sunday til I keel over
DTD Deepstack £100k weekend
Luton anytime

So see me for your patches at any of those or send me an address to get them sent to you

thanks

I'll take one off you pre-Friday at DTD if that's ok (and I can find you in the mêlée). Do you just pin them to whatever you're wearing?

sticky backs

Just tear off the strip and press them on

I'll take one off of you at the deepstack on the Saturday. Can put the rest of mine in the kitty to share around :)

Sure will....


Ill pick you one up on  Friday tho mate if your not in  :)up

Meant the 300 weekend Mitch :P. Didn't get in the grand prix. But you can do for me, I'll be down on and on this weekend anyway

OMG i'm so excited,


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recieved

Any update on some hoodies peeleno?

not enough interest i dont think matey.

received two blonde badges yesterday in the post. They look awesome guys, will ship the monies this weekend at deeteedee.

Me 2. Ty ty :)

Any chance of getting one to wear at the Coventry APAT Rich?