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Simon Trumper is just announcing DTD Grand Prix 4

August 15th-21st

Same €50 buy in

Re-entries

€250,000 guaranteed

Online and Live satellites details to be announced

Lol.

Can't wait for Grand Prix 5.

1000 in every day they must be accepting rebuy/enteries

correction August 13th-21st

Four flights Sat/Sun 13-14th

Four Flights Mon-Thurs

Two flights Fri

then days 2 and 3 at the weekend

and re-entries


gg record.

Does it count as a record when there's re entries?

will it be 10k stacks?


i prefer a higher buy in like 100-200E
but probs alot more successful it being 50E

a 500E tourney will be pretty good

They regularly get 300+ for the super 50.

The 100 comp struggles to hit 200.

No doubt what the masses want.

amazing if they make 5000 runners even if half the field at 2500 all had one re entry ....just staggering

That's what I was just thinking... I mean, if it was a rebuy comp it obv wouldn't count. I guess re-entries are just about different enough.

I guess they just have to be careful with the wording. It's guaranteed for 5000 runners. If they break it then they should say they have had x entries as opposed to x runners.

And will be interested to see a structure that caters for 5000 players over 3 days :)

i never doubted that

I doubt they really give a shit if its a record or not. That many people through the door in a week playing the tourney, cash games and house games is a result for them from a business point of view.......

I think the record is really important to them. The thing from a business point of view that's genius about re-entries as opposed to rebuys is the fact they get the session fees from the re-entries.

The thing I like about the re-entries from a players pov is it gives a different mind set to rebuying. Having to bust, no rebuys on starting stacks, no add-ons, makes for a sufficiently different dynamic that I'm happy to play in. I don't mind the occasional rebuy game but if it was a proper rebuy it would put most people off I imagine.

They already have the record and no-one is likely to break it soon, its all about the business this one. Great idea though, shame I can't play it that one either.

Yowzer, 5000 entries is super ambitious!

During peak holiday season

will renentries have to be done online?

thats a very good point better to do sept?

prob a silly question, but if you qualify online and get a golden chip and then re-enter, will the chip carry thru on the re-entry?

would not of thought so ....but if you won more than one seat more than one golden chip then ..maybee you still in with a shout that way !

The Golden Chip will only count for your first attempt but you can win more than one Golden Chip and use them for each re entry.

Cheers

ACES

Pretty sick stuff from DTD.

For the purposes of records, I think only unique entries should be counted. DTD have done incredibly well to pull in the runners for Grand Prix 3, and I think that record shouldn't be 'tainted' by a re-entry record.

Best of luck DTD.

Hi All

We are delighted with the 1564 players for the Grand Prix and have now decided to really raise the bar for low buy in huge guarantees, here are the basics for Grand Prix IV

Date: August 13th - 21st

€250,000 guaranteed

Qualifiers will be held both live and online, buy in will be €50 + €10 and you will be able to re enter.

Top 10% of qualifiers will go through to day 2 so all players will be in the money.

Day 1 structure will be 10,000 chips 30 minute clock and there will be 2 flights Saturday / Sunday and the Friday. Alternates / late reg for 4 levels.

All returning players will start with 15,000 chips, 40 minute clock and our festival structure

No restriction on re entries.

Kelvin Mullis was our first £5000 Golden Chip winner finishing 8th this weekend.

Golden Chip has been trebled and now wins you a £15,000 car

Satellites start Monday May 30th to Sun August 7th.

Online Day 1's will be 8th to 12th August , 2 each day at 7pm and 9pm.


Any questions please ask them on this thread and i will answer them.


Cheers


ACES

Ignore if you read this! I misread it.

Yes, we will have a team to assist customers with any online requirements, customers will be able to buy ucash vouchers to deposit into their account if required.

Cheers

ACES

Really wanna play this time lol

This is going to be a great event! My guess is that quite a few online regulars will re enter most days until they get through (if they get through)! great value!!

bit confused by this, or am i just being thick????

so if u finished day 1 with 80k it would be no better than finishing with 500 chips, or is it 15k more?? :dontask: :dontask: :dontask:

Brilliant great news hope I last longer than 45 minutes though worried already - NobodyPoker

Simon,
 if i win say 4 golden chip Sat's ...but get through to day 2 at my first attempt do i get a refund on the other three seats?
fantastic event this week well done to all at the club and the updates by tighty
really looking forward to this

amazing dtd

You can win four cars!

What car do we win?

fyp

So not all the day 1 flights are at DTD there is 10 run online?

The day 1's are pretty much satellites into day 2!

The way I read it day 1 is just a satellite to get you through to day 2 with a new starting stack and the standard deepstack structure?

Is that correct?

That's how I read it too.

Day 1 is a survivor satellite. Day 2 is effectively a new tournament.

So basically instead of it being a €50 tournament it's a €500 tournament which you can't buy in to and have to qualify via a satellite?

That's just about the way I read it too, it's effectively an €500 tourney after all the qualifiers.

Will there be any direct buy-in to the day twos?

No because the prizes are based on €50 not €500.

If you make day 2 you definitely get some money back.

If it was as you say you'd still have to beat 90% of the field to get to the min cash which would be €500 ish.

I'm assuming not because you're in the money if you make day 2. Though the prize will be less than the €500 I guess so maybe you can...

You could just look at it as a €500 comp where 100% of the field gets paid I guess. I assume the first people out will be getting paid €75, based as you say on the original €50.

it's really weird but I quite like it. round 1 is like a shootout but with tables merging instead of playing to a winner

Great idea, can see others copying this.

The prizes could be interesting.

The guarantee is €250k which means 5000 entrants.

However because it's a satellite type event there aren't going to be 500 people paid out.

Payouts will be for everyone who makes day 2 but that will only be 10% of the number of unique players not including re entries.

I can't see it getting too many more than the 1500 or so entries that the latest GP got which means between 150 and 200 people battling it out for €250k.

If they pay €75 for a min cash the payout structure could be incredibly top heavy or ridiculously levelled out.

Will be interesting to see how it works out.

presumably once you're through to day 2 you can't then reenter as you can only play day 2 once so payouts will be 10% of total entries, not unique

if your theory was right matt then on the last day 1 if 500 people were playing but only 10 of them hadn't played before so were new unique entries then only 1 of the 500 would get through to day 2

Assume there's 1000 unique entrants but say 3000 total entries. Only a max of 100 can make day 2 in that scenario. So it's effectively paying out 1/30th of the field.

In theory I suppose the maximum number of day 2 players is 99.9% of the unique entries.

Assume 1000 entries who all keep re entering.

1st comp 100 get through of 1000.

2nd comp 90/900

3rd comp 81/810

4th comp 73/729

etc..... until you've only got 9 left who can't play any more.

I need to think about this some more. Very confusing.

DTD need the players who are prepared to re enter to keep losing in order to meet the guarantee.

If the deep pockets all get through on their 1st go there's going to be a big overlay.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Mini.

Actually I think we might be wrong here. We need clarification on what "top 10%" means. 10% of unique entries or 10% of total entries. If a qualifier gets 100 people and re-entries takes it to 200 entries then they will probably put 20 through? The thing about that though is you could theoretically end up in a situation where you're putting more than 100% of the field through, though I guess realistically that would never happen.

I think you guys are making this too complicated.


It's effectively a DTD Festival structure two day event.  €500 entry.

Entry is through one of the 10 online or 10 live 'Day 1 Satellites', with 10% of each Day 1 making it through.

Everyone who makes it through is guaranteed a payout, and you can enter as many of the 'Day 1 Satellites' as you need to make it through.

I'd imagine that the week of online tourneys will fill a lot of the seats, as there will be less additional costs for players.  Sounds a very well thought out structure.

500 players back for the Saturday would be an awesome atmosphere at DTD.

At this rate, I could just be living in Nottingham for all of August, what with APAT's WCOAP there for a week at the end of the month.   ;D

But we like doing that.

ah, now I get where the confusion is. I'm assuming that re-entries means you can enter another qualifier. matt/nana assuming you can do that or re-enter the same one

surely I'm assuming it correctly as I can't imagine the dtd software allows for re-entries in the online qualifiers, they'll just be run as seperate tournies and you can enter more than one of these, no?

or will the live and online day 1s be using different rules?

I much preferred the "its a shootout but the tables merge". Some people could be expecting €500 just for getting through if you say its a €500 tourny.

speaking to rob on wednesday he was concerned for his bread and butter punters who play a few nights a week at dtd. they had nothing to do last week as the grand prix took up all the space. with the re entry they can play on other days if the get knocked out or hopefully there may be space for a smaller comp in the evening given the staggered starts / split days.

It's not a €500 tourney at all though because you're already in the money.

It's the 2nd stage of a €50 tourney and you've already min cashed.

Whatever it is, despite my early reservations I now think it's awesome purely because nobody has a clue how it's going to work out.

Whatever happens I know I'll be having a few goes.

Has anyone spoke to Rob?

Anyhoo

Yeah looks great, I like it a lot, defo have a go at qualifying online, starting a live tourney already in the money ftw!

I'm still assuming you can re-enter on the day. Would make sense, esp for the live legs.

Whether or not DTDs software allows you to do this online is a different question of course...

we at blonde are in no doubt you will be having a few goes.
me on the other hand will be trying to make th first one count.....
imagine if he made it multi entry like on tilt and you combined your stacks on day two. i would not put something like that past these people.

 ;tightend; hopkins.  ;topman;

ZOMG

Stack merging live ftw

+1

I think that you might find that is why they are running two staggered qualifiers each day.

If you get knocked-out of the early one you can re-enter in the second,

I think you are correct sir.

New Golden Chips Satellites starting next Monday:

    Make the final and win a Mini Cooper or £15K cash equivalent
    Only 300 Chips available

Ah excellent. A cash equivilent is much better as I already have a car.

...not that I have to worry about winning a chip and making the final of course.

If the car is worth a little bit more than the cash prize, then it makes a little bit more sense imo.  For example if the car is worth £17,000 new and you can take that or £15,000 in cash - then you have a decision to make.  Otherwise, the cash is a no-brainer (unless there's insurance and free-servicing thrown in, etc.)

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it, methinks.

I've had two golden chips and played in countless overlays, and haven't got anywhere in any of them.

however they are going to do this
our family holiday wont be in august this year!!!

A valid point :D

Yes, a system will be in place to record how many Golden Chips you have won, once you qualify the remainder will be paid into your account.

Guys,

Understand why there is a lot of questions as we have made a few changes, but we have thought this out quite a bit and decided to go for it if we went close to the 1600 this time, please read this

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/grandprix

and direct any questions to Simon on this thread and he will answer them.

My views are:

1. Massive (and 250k is bloody massive) prize pool for all backrolls to have a shot at

2. Re-entry means our locals can still play a few times in a week on Grand Prix weeks (quote "we come every night and now you put this bloody grand prix on and we can only play once")

3. Re-entry and 2 flights allows Weekend and Friday travelling players have another shot (quote: "Ive travelled 300 miles to your club and had my AA cracked first hand")

3. Online option cuts down on travelling expenses for players miles away (quote: "I've paid 300 quid in hotels and petrol to come your club and got busted in level 1")

4. Golden Chip - its just fun for it to be a car

5. Runner records, only unique players could count as the actual number of players in this format, but im happy for this weeks 1570 to stand as record until someone beats it, we want to try and break every uk record at every buy-in up to £1000, this is going to take time, the "dream" is to somehow stage a comp where the winner got £1 million, but that's a long time away from our current plans :(

6. Everyone starts with 15k chips and 25-50 blinds, avoids a 20 bb average crap shoot due on Saturday, we can't have players are travelling back to the club from all over the uk to play a 20bb comp, quality of play is important especially at these levels of prize pools

7. All players that make Saturday in the money (quote:"Ive travelled 200 miles back to play saturday and bubbled and got xxxx all")

This Grand Prix 4 is my favourite ever tournament concept to try and put on, Monte Carlos and Deepstacks are also fun but the Grand Prixs are the most interesting and high risk.

Will we hit the €250k prize pool, well, we will try our best but I'm happy to take any bets at EVEN MONEY for a bit of fun, just post the amount on here and your name.

Cheers Rob

There will be 5 days of online satellites, 2 flights a day 8th to 12th August then 10 more in the club, 2 flights Saturday 13th / Sunday 14th / Friday 19th and one each day Mon - Thu.

Cheers

ACES

Yes

Cheers

ACES

No , it's a €50 tournament that because of it's structure allowing re entry and the 2nd day is capped at 500 players provides the equivalent value of playing a €500 entry in relation to the €250,000 guarantee.

Cheers

ACES

There will be no direct buy in to day 2, this is a €50 entry with a completely new structure whereby you play Day 1 and have to come in the top 10% to qualify for Day 2 and then all returning players compete for the €250,000 prizepool using our Deepstack structure.

Cheers

ACES

Yes, unlike this weekend where 376 returned and only 153 cashed , all players will be in the money and minimum return will be €75.

Cheers

ACES

Rob / Simon...great stuff , I would have loved another shot this time as its a trek from Luton  , this tourney guarantees me a bloomin good try , so hats off to you both ,

well done , just to  say the buzz at the club last week was unbelievable


best poker club ever


Rover

We are taking a risk but that is what makes Dusk Till Dawn unique and fun, it is highly unlikely we will get 5000 unique players but we should get 500 playing day 2, assume 700 play Day 1, 70 will get through and it then depends what %age of the 630 who didn't will want to try again and how many more players will add to these each day in addition to the online Day 1's, the feedback we have had is that most players will try at least once due to the massive roi should you go deep so, in theory we need 2500 players.

Cheers

ACES

You can not re enter the same Day 1 flight but you can re enter as many of the 20 flights available you wish to play.

Cheers

ACES

Perfect description.

Great, now if we can just find another 2499 players we should be fine lol.

Cheers

ACES

if 500 players quailfy and there is 2 flights left will you scape the last 2 flights ?

You know what. This is fricking awesome.

The more I think about the more I like it.

The restart on day 2 is a great plan because as Rob said the latest grand prix was a definite crapshoot.

As long as the top prizes are similar to the deepstack then EV wise it's well worth 6, 7 or 8 attempts.

Any chance you could post the proposed payouts based on say 300, 400 or 500 returning for day 2?

I'm going to guess at least 30k up top possibly more. The punters need to know because I really think a lot won't realise what good value it is to have several goes at day 1.

You can not re enter the same flight , therefore the 10% will be unique players.

eg. if there are 340 - 345 players 34 will qualify, if there are 346 - 350 35 will qualify.

Cheers

ACES

No, but once the online satellites are done we will know how many we need to qualify in the club and will adjust caps on each flight to suit, i would imagine the last 2 will be sold out at least a week in advance.

Cheers

ACES

well if i am on my feet wheels again by then i will try some online sats

so here goes


can I play each flight in the club on sat and Sun if I need to


cheers

Love the concept, and it's definitely going to encourage more people to play online as well.

This may have been covered already.

Is the juice going to be the same for the online comps as the live ones?

   also what is the structure online......be great to have a decent stack and long blinds in your undies :D

absolutely loving this idea, for people like me who love DTD but its a ball ache to get to + expenses before you play a hand.....knowing if you make day2 your at least min cashing suits me down to the ground (as well as everyone else who lives over an hour away)

   wp rob and simon....very innovative.

little idea for other sats online, add accom and travel to packages, sure would be popular with people that have the shallower pockets (the £300 monthly is really a £500 for me with travel and hotel) otherwise i'd play it a lot more

10,000 Chips, 30 min clock - Live and 10,000 Chips, 10 min clock - Online

thanks m8

Dusk Till Dawn announce details of their next Grand Prix catapulting live UK Poker to a whole new level

 As the record smashing Dusk Till Dawn Grand Prix III comes to an end, details of the Grand Prix IV are announced.

 It’s hard to imagine an act to follow the tremendous success of the Dusk Till Dawn Grand Prix III….or is it? It’s Dusk Till Dawn after all. Brace. Your. Self.

Dusk Till Dawn Grand Prix IV – August 2011

Prizepool:        €250,000 GUARANTEED

Buy-In:             €50 + €10 +UNLIMITED RE-ENTRY

Final table to be streamed on www.dusktilldawnpoker.com

Ø      Day 1’s

o       5 day 1’s Online & 7 day 1’s live at the Club

o       One or two flights each day; up to two different times of play per day, players can play one or both

o       In total, there are 20 chances to qualify for Day 2

 
Ø      Unlimited RE-ENTRY across all Day 1’s, online & club (from Mon 8th – Fri 19th Aug)

Ø      Top 10% for each day go through to Day 2 (Saturday 20th Aug)

Ø      ALL DAY 2 PLAYERS ARE IN THE MONEY

Ø      Satellites:

o       Any Golden Chip winner to go on to make the final table, will bag a Mini Cooper, or a £15,000 cash equivalent

o       300 x Golden Chips available. Once the chips are gone, only seats can be one

o       Satellites start Monday 30th May. Click here for details >>>

 

 

Day 1:  ONLINE

                                     

           

5 x ONLINE Day 1’s
 Flight 1
 Flight 2
 
Monday 8th
 7pm
 9pm
 
Tuesday 9th
 7pm
 9pm
 
Wednesday 10th
 7pm
 9pm
 
Thursday 11th
 7pm
 9pm
 
Friday 12th
 7pm
 9pm
 

                                   

 

Day 1:  LIVE AT THE CLUB

 

7 x CLUB Day 1’s
 Flight 1
 Flight 2
 
Saturday 13th
 12 noon
 7pm
 
Sunday 14th
 12 noon
 7pm
 
Monday 15th
 
 7pm
 
Tuesday 16th
 
 7pm
 
Wednesday 17th
 
 7pm
 
Thursday 18th
 
 7pm
 
Friday 19th
 12 noon
 7pm
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Structure

Day 1         10,000 Chips, 30 min clock

Day 2         Players start with NEW CHIPS; 15,000 chips, 40 min clock

Day 3         Remaining chips from Day 2, 30 min clock

 

Start Times

Day 1’s      Please see varying times above

Day 2         2pm (doors open at 12 noon)

Day 3         12 noon (doors open at 11am)

its likke a massive 50£ re entry satalite to a pimped up 300£ er which is qualify only

Love it! Very ambitious, likely to get loads of press and something new.
Let's hope it takes off

Sorry if this has been asked already. If i make day 2 in one of the early events, but with a crappy short stack, can I play again in an attempt to make day 2 with a bigger stack and then play the bigger one on the day?

Truly amazing concept btw

Everyone starts day 2 with 15k so no

No idea why I am asking this as I doubt it will be a concern for me!

Are the Golden Chips awarded for winning a satellite into a Day1, or for being one of the first to qualify online for day 2?

ah missed that bit, doh

day 1

good luck to Dtd.  has this date been choosen because its the week before G casinos Goliath which has been set up to try and break the record that was held by Dtd for the Ukipt. obviously this has now been smashed by Grand Prix 3. good lick Goliath but David keeps jamming one in your eye  :redcard:

Yes you can providing there are seats available.

Cheers


ACES

Haha thanks mate, Id like to say that we are that brave but its actually the other way round! The Grand Prix 4 date was actually set back in Jan 2011, I am pretty sure Goliath wasn't around then.

It's them that have scheduled an event a week after us, rather that us scheduling our Grand Prix a week before their Goliath. I was surprised and also a bit disappointed when they clashed a £100 buy-in event with the APAT World Championship £75 buy-in at Dusk Till Dawn, especially as they have hosted APAT events themselves, but I am not party to the reasons behind this. We will however offer to market APAT as much as possible as well as maybe giving them some advertising/marketing space at Grand Prix 4, if they feel that will help them with numbers, although APAT have a very loyal membership base so maybe Goliath wont hurt them.

Clashed are unavoidable, but i dont think we should do clashes where the tournament buy-ins are close, that just splits the customers across two locations and does noone any favours - haha - unless their is an overlay!

Anyway, this is how the UK tournament calender REALLY works if anyone is interested;

1. Pokerstars set their EPT and UKIPT dates
2. GUKPT then set their dates to avoid Pokerstars
3. Dusk Till Dawn get whats left!

Life as a bottom feeder can be fun tho :)

Cheers Rob

PS. I have no problems with GUKPT, Dena is great, I just wish whoever thought up the Goliath idea and set the date could have told us earlier and also not clashed with APAT or put too close us Grand Prix 4:(
 

Wow. Just read all this and I think its a phenomenally ambitious plan, I really hope it works....the "dream" of getting a £1m top prize would be beyond sick and mighjt be possible if this works out gogogogogo

defo not gonna bet against the 250k gtd being met cos i really want it to! gooooooood luck  :)up

Rob you going to be in vegas at all this summer ?

"lil dave"

only just realised that this is on the same time as the GUKPT Luton ME

will probably still try to qualify online to make day 2 and in the extrememly likely event that I don't make day 2 of the GUKPT then I'll come play :)

wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

just won first golden chip need another 2 i think

Mrs fish won one as well wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

why do you need 2. thought you could only win 1?

you can win asmany as you want and then use them as bullets when you bust out

this for ...re entry

nice one..

Pair of colluding f***ers!!!

only one goden chip?

no if you win two golden chips satellites you get two golden chips

oh cool...not that it makes a difference to me. can win deepstack seats for fun but have never even come close to a golden chip in 3 promotions

you have no evidence to substantiate this so please keep your nose out ....lol

if you win 2 golden chips and bust with the 1st one, can you use the 2nd one for re-entry and still claim the extra £15K for finalling? I presume there isn't a clause saying only the first one can be used for the added value?  I've won one tonight and will try to win more if they are worth the extra hastle.
cheers

simon posted somewhere saying that you can use one golden ticket per each entry so if you win 4 tickets and enter 4 times you get a ticket each time
but if you win 4 tickets and enter 5 times you dont get a ticket on the 5th attepmt

€250,000 Grand Prix IV is just 10 days away!

 5,000 Runners, €60 buy in and one quarter of a million Euros up for grabs!

rom 8th August 2011 Dusk Till Dawn will be hosting yet another fantastic Grand Prix tournament. Set to smash our current UK record for the largest field, we currently have 390 players registered for the event and expect 5,000 entries in total, so we have a long way to go. It’s going to be a historical poker event so spread the word and get all your friends involved. The tournament is affordable by all, and you can qualify from just €2.

 There are 20 day 1 flights spread over 12 days, 5 online and 7 live at the club.

Day 1 structure

 Online

 Monday 8th August – Friday 12th August

 There will be 2 x Day 1 flights per day at 7pm & 9pm (Online)

 Club

 Saturday 13th August – Friday 19th August

 There will be at least 1 x Day 1 flight per day at 7pm (Live at Dusk Till Dawn)

 
pLUS on Saturday 13th, Sunday 14th and Friday 19th there will be additional flights at 12 noon.


Players can Re-Enter into any day 1 flights if they get knocked out, see our Website for more details.

 

Grand Prix Events Page>>

 

Online Satellites

 

We have been running online satellites since Monday 30th May and so far 369 seats have been won from as little as €2.

 

The first 300 of which have won a Golden Chip which will be cashed in for a Mini Cooper or £15,000 cash at the final table. This is an exciting promotion and adds such exciting value to the final table. Read our Grand Prix III Golden Chip winner’s story Here>>

 

These €2 Rebuy satellites are still running every night at 7pm & 9pm up until Sunday 7th August.

 

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Still confused?

You can chat live to our support team 7 days a week from 10am – Midnight. Alternatively email support@dusktilldawnpoker.com with your questions.

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This tourney definately warrants a "chipstack building" competition

In theory, here should be some huge stacks on day2/3 with some nice chip disparity

Let those creatice juices flow IMO and hopefully DTD my throw in a little something

Everyone starts day 2 with 15K though

oh!

sure have read this properly then!

i cba to ask why!  lol

mutiple day ones both on line and live 10% of field from each qualify for live day 2
if you dont make it on first attempt you can try again and again and again ............

I don't understand

sounds like a sattelite into day 2 to me?

yep but only way into day 2 no direct buy ins

yeah reading the website it makes more sense.

but why would you keep reentering if the best you can do is scrape through to get 15k chips to start day2. having chip stack disparity as was said earlier would encourage more people to be aggressive and try and build stacks as they carry on.


still hope it is huge hit!  D Th D

but why would you keep reentering ?

lol you only would if you crashed out on first attempt

i understand that the top 10% from each sat go through.

 so for on line qualifiers between  8th n 12th  you have 5 days with 2 sats a day at 7pm and 9pm giving you ten chances to get in. then 7 days live sats at the club but sat 13th sun 14th and fri 19th have a sat at noon and a sat at 7pm.

 20 chances of getting in. nothing could be simpler.

 so for the unlucky/on the down side of varience that will be 20 attempts @ £50 a pop so well over a bag to get into a £50 comp. gl all

hmmmm. just thinking about my last post i aint so sure that these numbers are gonna add up...if they want 400 runners for day 2 on saturday then thats an average of 20 people going through from each sat...and i cant see an average of 200 players playing every sat. but then again this is DTD and they dont often get things too wrong. Gl to them as well

if a player got through day1  at first attempt

could player re enter and collect 2nd seat in day2 to be transfered to another player ?

lol

Is a serious question if there was 250 runners on day 2 then seat would = £1090
A day 2 seat might be worth more to some one who couldnt be bothered to play day 1 but would consider themselves +ev versus field 

I dont think it is possible to sell a tourney entry (anywhere) once you have played a Day 1.

i read somewhere that dtd were gonna make the min cash worthwhile for those people travelling from a far so that it would leave some profit after expenses.
you can transfer seats in all the regular sats like the deepstack and monte carlo so would not be at all suprised if they let you transfer one here. h makes a good point as  this tourney is gonna represent excellent value.

This is gonna be awesome! For those of you kids that have just entered the world of uk poker, grosvenor used to run a huge pot limit comp like this every year with qualifiers at each grosvenor casino and grand final in Walsall.... Played pot limit. It was great but sadly died. The min cash paid to all qualifiers was £100 which just about covered petrol beer and a sandwich.

i think your right Jason

tonight's 2 on line day 1s produced 16 into day 2

if i got this right then €250k gtd buy in €50 +€10
so 5000 entry's needed to make gtd
500 needed into day 2
18 day one options left so need 484 more to get through from day ones or 268 runners in each
big ask !

More day ones might be needed or drop gtd

massive ask i don't think they are going to get anywhere close......

however i so hope they do make it cos dtd is just an amazing  place proved again this weekends deepstack..and i would hate to see them with a massive overlay

numbers guess anyone?

i think total entrants around the 3000 mark

3250 if they allowed cash buy I'n at club would defo get it . People don't like using bank card on line plus the other half gets 2 see lol . I see why as dtd want more on line accounts . On the other side if it was open 2 cash at club loads of new players would go to club .

At the last GP you could buy a UKash voucher at the cash desk and use Dtd laptops to register. Obviously you do need a DtD online account and winnings are credited to that account so probably no help in your circs?

I have had a good look, but cant find the payout structure anywhere ???

Anyone help?

My speculative punt is that it will be pretty flat minimum payout until say 45 left then close to standard DTD payout. I don't think they are going to publish until they know how many people start Day 2. 75 euros was mentioned By Simon T. in the other thread and at the club last night 90 euros was toute as miinimum. I think it will start off flat to discourage no-shows getting a better payout than attendees as 15K stacks will take a while to blind off.

i think that the payouts should have been paid as thou day 2 was day 1 (ie 10% of day 2 runners). It essentially makes it a 600 freeze with big  money payouts compared to buy in.

Those who had issues in respect to travel (incl people like me) had plenty opportunity to qualify online. It is effectively becomes a day 1 scenario where you are playing for great money. I could be way off the mark here and it is very much just my opinion. Dont really know who the typical player has been in these games.

That is a format we could use for a €500 comp with 500 returning and only 50 getting paid but the concept of this Grand Prix is as follows.



The Grand Prix is a €50 comp with a massive guarantee and the top 10% paid played in 2 stages. In the last Grand Prix we played 10 levels on the day 1's and approx 25% got through, this meant travelling players were coming back short stacked and still had to beat 250 players to cash. With this format in the Day 1's you play down to 10% so all players return with a min cash and get to play for the €250,000 prizepool with our Deepstack structure 15,000 chips 40 minute clock starting at 25 50.



Cheers


ACES

That would've just made it a €500 comp guaranteed at 500 runners that you could only get in to via sats.

As played they're paying out based on 5000 runners and top 10% get paid.

Paying out the top 1% or so would be absolutely ridiculous.

Thanks for the reply Simon, I take it that there is not a payout structure agreed on yet.

Just seems strange for a tournament to have started and the payout not in place?

Evilpie

I dont disagree that it strays from the normal pay structure, but Dtd are pioneers in the uk poker scene and yes it is unusual but I would have supported it

Like I say, this tourney has pretty much passed me by really, and I'm not sure who has been playing

I sincerely hope Dtd reach their guarantee and set all kinds of records

Prob been asked before but i'm in a rush... if I have an online account can I turn up at the club with cash and use that to deposit and buyin?

believe they have Ukash vouchers at the club for this

Yes.

doubt they will do hyper turbos/ flips

as these are day 1s not satalites into tourneys

Correct, this is a 2 stage €50 tournament, everyone has to play the same initial format live or online.

Cheers

ACES

The payout will depend on how many qualify for Saturday as the overlay will massively increase the top end, will publish as soon as i have it.

Cheers

What time are the nightly night sats normally finishing?

I played the  7pm last night, and was done not long after 8.....

There's a online sat at 3pm today

The one last night got to final table with 6 seats ftw about 2 1/2 hours in

Really? I thought late reg was open until 10.15? so you could late reg straight onto the FT? will keep track of it tonight. Cheers

Late reg for first hour - there are four tournaments every night this week. I'd guess bulldozer is referring to the 7pm one which had plenty runners. The 8pm only generated 2 seats  >:( 3rd >:( for nowt

I was referring to the Live sats which start at 7, i think they have late reg til 10.15.

Theyve been taking 6-7.5 hours depending on field size

Sorry thought you meant online

Thanks. That is doable.

 Looking at the website, it seems there are still 12 players left in from last night's tourney or am i missing something??

I played live last night. Think we were done at 4ish. Can't quite remember. A lot of alcohol was consumed :) the 12 it shows left won seats :)

12 from 80. sweet. I expected 10% obv thinking in euros.. sigh @ 4am tho.

80 players but 40 re-entries. They show as rebuys/addons at the club and don't appear on the site.

They should all finish between level 15 and 17 regardless of 10 players or 400

FFS

Regged for the live club 7pm instead of the onlineament

FML- trying to sort it now

lol... i nearly did this saturday...

Who the f#ck is fax1? I would very much like to strangle them.

thats me

How the hell do you work that out?

10% of anything is still 10% and the estimated time of completion is when the average stack is between 8bb to 12bb :) With a 10k stack level 16 is 5k/10k

Well I know what you mean in principle but it's never going to happen in reality.

A comp with 100k chips in play will finish a lot sooner than 1 with 4 million even though there's 1 winner compared to 40.

The difference between 300 and 400 runners would be minimal but at those extremes I'm pretty sure you'd see a big difference.

In theory you shouldn't see a difference, but do understand where you are coming from. All live day 1s have followed the same pattern btw.

Do you get a confirmation email re day 2?

brag................

yes  mate you will get it today ......you wanna lift?

Not had an email about Day 2. My name appears on the list on the DtD website though.

Really though?

Not sure if this is mentioned, and sorry if I missed it, but what blinds does day 2 start on?

£300 festival structure/chips.

25/50

Thank you sir.

So... how many paid in these sats? hard to tell from the lobby/in game window

Check total chips in play and divide that by 10k.

That'll tell you how many buy ins.

Pays 1 in 10 rounded down if it's 4 or less or up if it's 5 or more.

So if there's 250k chips that means 25 entries and 3 seats.

If there's 240k that's 24 entries and 2 seats.

TY

between
5-14entries=1 seat
15-24          2 seats
25-34          3 seats etc etc

include re-entries


EDIT, what Matt said

            

or prize pool / 600 round up or down 

shit tournament anyway... didnt want to play anyway. FML - bubble more often please!!!

OK so got my seat, still in another sat tho, what happens if I win again?

unlucky Junior :(

transfer to me after that shit call you just made.
thanks

lol

Nothing mate. They aren't actually sats, they're day 1s.

You are now playing in a day 1 having already qualified for day 2. Pretty dumb really.

You can't do anything at all with the second seat whatsoever so you might as well sit out.

Actually I suppose you should play to win thus stopping someone else getting in. Adds to the effective prizepool I suppose.

I think you get disqualified for multi tabling on day 1

They shouldn't be running them in parallel if you can't play 2 at once.

Nobody said you can't play.

It's just a really silly thing to do.

Wadey is currently multi tabling one online, one live on my table.

I got this in my email after i won mine...

"If you have additional satellite seats that you wish to transfer to other players or cash in, please email me with the details of your request."

you shouldn't be able to do either imo.

Think thats just people who have Day 1 seat tokens

ahhh ok, that would make sense

yeah, this hence the word satellite

which reminds me, why aren't any satellites running for this anymore?

sats into what is now a re entry day 1 ?

I'm serious

Keys, almost all is forgiven... finally i binks one. probs need to final to get my buy ins back though....

We still going to meet up before for chicken!!!

Should ask them for chinese sauce on the chicken and see how they respond imo

Does that mean yes?

I've seen ppl playing pokerz on laptops whilst playing at DTD a few times. Are they just running off the battery or are there places to plug them in? It's the bloody Supernova freeroll tonight and in the unlikely event I'm still in by 7pm it will be an issue and my laptop battery is pretty shit.

There are places to plug them in on some tables but I don't know if players are allowed.

I thought Stars was blocked?

No chops right

Think it is. Was talking to the dude at the cash desk when getting the wifi password. I couldn't even connect to youtube. blonde works tho :)

Would be using a dongle...

Ppl use the plugs under the cash game cables to charge them. Only the cash tables have plugs though (for shuffle machines) so whilst in the tourney area, you'd need a vlong cable. Can charge during breaks though....

Stars works fine.

Just thought i'd give some feedback on the event, didn't want to make another thread, but suppose someone could make one if they wanted...

I know Simon asked for a show of hands during the tournament to get a rough idea of peoples thoughts during the tournament, I'll give my view now its finished.

The Idea i think is great, It allowed people like me, predominantly online players, to "qualify" for a Live tournament with good value, a small buy-in for lower stakes players, a good structure for the live day 2 and a hefty 1st place prize.

I think, as with the other tournaments you offer the promotion for, the Gold chip satellites are such a great incentive. It's another example of how DTD differentiate themselves from the other tours, and how they are very "customer friendly". The added value is superb. (of course it is marketing, but it's added perks like this that keep the players happy).

As touched on earlier the structure was pretty bang on allowing for play at the start and middle stages of the tournament, yet not having a ridiculous amount of levels squeezed in to one day, and allowing the live event to be ran over Saturday and Sunday (saying that i dint make day 3).

The guarantee though a little ambitious turned out to be not too far off as first worried, i'm sure as many would agree 150k-200k would suit better for the future.

The Organisation and running of the event as a whole on day 2 seemed fine to me. Payouts, seating, dealers all ran smoothly.

All in all, apart from the over estimation of the guarantee, from my perspective the event seemed a great success and I enjoyed partaking in it.

I hope the Grand Prix will run again in the future much like it did this time (with tweeks of course, including the payout structure) and i hope DTD don't suffer too much from the overlay and gold chip bonuses they have to stump up for.