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1  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: *** 'THE OFFICIAL MOVIE THREAD' *** on: September 20, 2020, 05:43:17 PM
Tenet Review & Covid visit to the Cinema

It’s been so long this thread has dust on it.. So it’s been a pretty bleak 6 months for the cinema industry and if I’m honest I haven’t fancied venturing out to the local Cineplex in that time.

However the advent of the new Chris Nolan (has he ever made a bad film?) film Tenet has brought me out of my Hertfordshire bunker. Sci-fi action thriller with time travel.. Did someone just make my ultimate movie?

As well as reviewing the film I thought I would give a TR of the experience of going to the cinema during these strange times.

The Galleria Hatfield Hertfordshire is a smallish shopping centre that houses a rather nice Odeon multiplex as well as a plethora of the usual suspect food chains.. Nandos,Harvester,Mcdonalds etc.

Entering the site at peak time on a Friday night  (7Pm) the first thing that strikes is the emptiness of the large car park. Usually it’s filled to the brim and the large overspill area would also have lots of custom. Tonight however it’s not even half full.

Enter the building; it’s like a ghost town. Four or five people populate the main drag, even the big McDonalds (first premises as you enter) is nearly empty. Although the drive through has a queue longer than a cake sale at a weight watchers fete.

As I and my eldest daughter walk through we notice the large Frankie & Benny’s is all boarded up.. Chiquitos Burger King all virtually empty.

We go upstairs where they have a row of restaurants. There is a queue for Nandos,good to see something never changes and that people still get excited over chicken with three different sauces Smiley

Our destination is Pizza Express, booked in advance for some basic pre show fare.

Our masked server shows us to our booth but says we have to sit next to each other not opposite as we would be too close to the people in the next booth. It’s the first step of tilt. I hate sitting next to someone if it’s just the two of you especially as my eldest is blessed with the family shoulders. There are perhaps 20 patrons, not too bad. Despite the low numbers we don’t get a server for fifteen minutes. No real menus though, have to scan a code and look on our phone. The young girl server is hard to understand as she tries to talk through her surgeons mask. I understand all the precautions etc, however it doesn’t change the fact the whole experience feels uncomfortable. Food takes forever to arrive.. Pretty sure Pizza cooking time is not 35 minutes and we have to speed eat for fear of missing the start of the film which would just bring about a Hulk like rage.

I still tip the poor girl. It’s not her fault. I just hope she still has a job in four weeks time because if this is peak footfall on a Friday night there may be trouble ahead for the Hatfield Pizza Express.

Get the pre paid tickets from the machine don our masks for the cinema foyer and enter. I have visited this place many times for Fajita Fridays, it’s always bustling with people, they have a Costa inside too.Theres is always a queue, as there are at the cinema refreshment stands. Tonight there are four people in the foyer. The silver lining?..We get our big box of popcorn with little wait. I feel a little deflated. A busy foyer always adds to the experience for me.. Happy faces eager in anticipation of what’s to come, all usually buried in their phones oblivious to any social convention.

No one to check our tickets.. We plonk ourselves down.. no one ever checks our tickets. I’m beginning to wish I was more of a rascal. I think the total count of viewers is ten. Tenet is the biggest film of the moment and although released for a little while I would still expect more people here.

So to the film...

The film is 2 1/2 hours long which flies by. Seriously it does not let up from the very first scene. We like our hero continuously move forward at a pace from one set piece to another... through well planned heists to shootouts to full on major platoon assaults.

Much has been said about the complexity of the plot and how it will leave you scratching your head. An hour in and it feels formulaic..I’m understanding quite well what is going on and wondering what all the fuss is about. Sure there were a couple of weird bits but for the whole I’m feeling comfortable. and smug. Then it drops off a cliff into a land where you’re thinking to understand what’s going on has to become abstract and a degree in physics becomes a handy tool. Best advice, don’t think about it too much let this movie flow over you, revel in the excellent set pieces, fights and gunplay and hope your mind hangs on to enough for it to make some kind of sense. The time travel element when thought about (usually three hours later whilst laying in bed) is some of the most logical and well presented I have seen, but when I tell you in the same instance you have some people moving forward in time and some moving back, you can understand why your mind starts getting bent out of shape.
It’s a movie you probably need to see a few times and a you tube video that explains it. I know I must have missed so much in the detail because this thing gallops on unrelenting.

The cast is excellent.. The little known John David Washington was very good as CIA agent at the centre of this maelstrom of craziness. He was well supported by Robert Pattinson showing us his range is far more than teenage girl dreamboat vampire. Kenneth Branagh gave his best Ukrainian madman impression, a little over the top, coming across as a rather excited Teddy KGB. Elizabeth Debicki, the main Female lead, is a tall willowy blonde. So tall I had to look her height up.. Six two and she was wearing monster heels. Christ id come up to her knee cap ! She was ok..A touch wooden but such was the pace of the film this was soon forgotten as we enjoyed the ride.

So overall.. 8/10 fajitas.. To be fair its right up my street.. It may not be to some peoples taste due to the complex and confusing storyline, but it’s almost one of those movies you just have to see despite that. I enjoyed it immensely and no doubt will view it many times in the future.

As a whole though the whole Covid times experience was rather deflating. Coming out of the complex at 11PM, my vehicle was the only one in the car park like an unpopular child at playtime. The McDonalds drive in queue still stretched round the block though so looks like Ronald’s safe in these strange times. Seeing this reality is quite thought provoking and the need for us to come out of the other side more urgent than I thought.

I hope you guys also muster the energy to visit your local Cineplex in the near future..It needs you ..It really does.

8/10 Pizza Express Dough Balls

2  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: September 18, 2020, 05:08:00 PM
will admissions and deaths rise if the its mainly the young and healthy contracting ? as we have seen despite rising numbers and society open for a number of months deaths are incredibly low.

This going round in circles cannot go on..if people arnt dying why lock down fully... if the important numbers of admissions and deaths were rising sharply and not the meaningless number of infections i could understand this

if you want to lock a country down for a disease that isnt killing people and not overloading the NHS then its just the same as any othe virus you can catch. We gonna hide under the bed at every little thing and let the world go to shit.

More deaths will be attributed to suicide and mental health issues than covid could ever achieve.

Admissions are rising sharply, you can see it in the link I posted; in a couple of weeks deaths will rise sharply.  This will happne even if they some up with a measure that naturally understates them. 

If we could just stick to 10 deaths a day, 5000 a year, that would be an ok trade off for a resonably functioning economy, but that wasn't going to happen on the measures we had in place.

The disease is increasing exponentially again, albeit at a slower pace than it did orginally.  So 200 admissions this week, is 400 next week and 800 the week after.   Then before we know it we are up to 100 deaths a day and so on.  It doesn't really matter if 10 is the base point, if it doubles every week or so.  Again we can see what is happening in France and Spain, so saying lets just crack on isn't the best strategy.

So the Government have to do something?  It would be bad strat to let it blow through the population now if you weren't prepared to do it when the other deaths were naturally lower (in the summer), and surely yoyu hold out now when any vaccine is likely to be nearer?  I don't like the Government, but I don't think they have much choice here.

And it is just bullshit on the suicide thing, there were 50,000 deaths in a few months from covid, which is about 8x the number of suicides each year.  And suicides happen for a number of reasons, sure there are likely to be more because of lockdown, but not nearly on the scale of the Covid deaths we would have had without lockdown.   There are trade offs with all these difficult decisions, but be honest on the numbers, and don't just repeat something somebody has just made up.

What is bullshit is the 50 k number..we already know 20K were care home deaths where they could literally of died of the slightest thing let alone covid..govt has already admitted at least 5k are misreported on the 30 day rule so we know thats conservative. Real number could be as low as 20k

The 5k a year deaths for covid would be ok for a functioning society is a laughable statement when we average 15k a year from the common flu alone.

I know a couple of front liners and their opinion is that a lot of the people that would die or were susceptible to covid have already died and thats the reason for the very low death rate. The real facts are that sub 60 deaths are very small.. the facts are if u r even remotely healthy you will be fine.. the fact is  that the mortality rate is incredibly tiny.

Im sorry basic common sense tells you the way we are at the moment and for the last four months would mean hundreds of thousands of us should have been infected which means there should have been thousands of deaths.. not even close

Stop treating it like the bubonic plague and look at in context..even to this date less than half a per cent of the entire country has been affected but you still want to continue with your the sky is falling rhetoric.

The bottom line is we cannot carry on like this.. simple as that whatever statistics you want to draw on



3  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: ***THE OFFICIAL TV SHOW THREAD*** on: September 18, 2020, 03:04:11 PM
Just started to watch Designated Survivor. Really enjoying it so far. Very much has the kind of 24 vibe I miss in a TV show.

on my list this.. currently on falling skies ( alien invasion,human resistance etc )..not bad..also Cobra Kai.. enjoying this and not what I was expecting..both central leads have good and dick sides Smiley
4  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: September 18, 2020, 03:02:09 PM
will admissions and deaths rise if the its mainly the young and healthy contracting ? as we have seen despite rising numbers and society open for a number of months deaths are incredibly low.

This going round in circles cannot go on..if people arnt dying why lock down fully... if the important numbers of admissions and deaths were rising sharply and not the meaningless number of infections i could understand this

if you want to lock a country down for a disease that isnt killing people and not overloading the NHS then its just the same as any othe virus you can catch. We gonna hide under the bed at every little thing and let the world go to shit.

More deaths will be attributed to suicide and mental health issues than covid could ever achieve.
5  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: September 17, 2020, 02:50:47 PM
One of my best mates has turned into a full blown whackjob over this, don't you do it as well Deano Cheesy

Hahahaha dont need covid to achieve that
6  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: Blonde will make you STRONG on: September 17, 2020, 02:49:38 PM
Injury update...

Finished last session of physio and knee is about 90% and im training pretty well.. PT keeps shouting at me trying to do too much too quick..... some light squats the other day felt a bit twingy on the knee.. but light deadlifts, cleans and lightish front squats felt ok... trying to rebuild fitness at the moment some nice sweaty sessions being churned out.. doing lots of bike weight combos example :

1KM bike followed by 10 70KG deadlifts for 5 rounds for time no rest..

so 5KM bike and 50 light deadlifts ..12.27 wasnt too bad

Feeling good and looking to be full tilt in a couple of weeks
7  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: September 17, 2020, 02:44:02 PM
I think the condradictory and confusing rules are probably the most frustrating thing in all this.

In the beginning i thought the govt done a reasonable job of an impossible task..but recently it just seems they are flapping around knee jerk reacting to every situation.

I still havent worked out why at the very height of the situation we didnt have to wear masks and now when it is at its lowest we do ??
8  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: September 17, 2020, 01:51:15 PM
As an aside i have been trying to get my 17 year old a test for the last 24 hours as she has a temp and a cough..the govt site either comes up with its busy or one choice only in a random location miles away

something is seriously amiss here.. it cant just be total incompetence especially as i have been told at the local testing site the testers are just sitting around doing nothing..

is something more sinister afoot here ?

9  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: September 17, 2020, 12:15:15 PM
Had half an hour at Grosvenor Nottingham last night

They seemed to have made a good effort, door man ensuring masks worn on entry.

There was a cash game running but I was just there for a blackjack fix.

Seemed acceptable to take your mask off once sat at the table, perspex partitions weren't too much of a hindrance.

Spotted a poor bloke with a table converted into a chip sanitising station.

Scotch still tasted the same

All in all they seemed to be doing a pretty good job, but then I am quite happy with the idea that we need to get back to normal as much as we need to control the infection rate.


Hi Stu.

I don't mean to be pedantic but how can we get back to normal if people are dying all over the place?

Which ever way I phrase that it seems argumentative and abrasive. I don't mean it to be, it's a genuine question.

x

People are dying all over the place ? where is this reported ?.. as far as i can tell death rates dont seem to have been reported for a while


No, perhaps I put that badly.

What I mean is if we go back to normal before we get an effective vaccine I think people will start dying as a consequence.

Havent we been back to a degree of normal for about 4 months now ? we are for a better phrase crawling all over each for that time..enough of the population flout guidelines to have brought on what you would perceive a sharp rise in death rates but this hasnt happened. infection rates are up but this has to be literally the most meaningless number ever.. the numbers you need to know are deaths and numbers that actually needed treatment.. if you report 10,000 infections but if 9974 of them didnt require treatment and just went home and isolated what does that tell us

Yes covid is a thing..yes we need to protect those most vulnerable..but we also cant keep going round in circles praying for a rushed vaccine.

10  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: September 17, 2020, 11:41:28 AM
Had half an hour at Grosvenor Nottingham last night

They seemed to have made a good effort, door man ensuring masks worn on entry.

There was a cash game running but I was just there for a blackjack fix.

Seemed acceptable to take your mask off once sat at the table, perspex partitions weren't too much of a hindrance.

Spotted a poor bloke with a table converted into a chip sanitising station.

Scotch still tasted the same

All in all they seemed to be doing a pretty good job, but then I am quite happy with the idea that we need to get back to normal as much as we need to control the infection rate.


Hi Stu.

I don't mean to be pedantic but how can we get back to normal if people are dying all over the place?

Which ever way I phrase that it seems argumentative and abrasive. I don't mean it to be, it's a genuine question.

x

People are dying all over the place ? where is this reported ?.. as far as i can tell death rates dont seem to have been reported for a while
11  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: September 11, 2020, 10:31:11 AM
It's worth nothing today's press conference slides showed Covid infections - but not hospitalisations.

A reminder just how dramatically the goalpost has shifted: lockdown was originally about creating capacity in NHS. We certainly have it. Yet restrictions are being re-upped.

new cases are largely through the young and healthy mainly workers and school aged and they are picking up smaller doses due to masks and social distancing
problem lies when the young pick up the virus and go visit granny and granddad and dont take proper precautions thats when the hospitalizations d deaths n

Are they visiting Granny though.. i think the average person knows whose vulnerable etc and maybe not go and see granny and give her a big hug... im sure we have figured out how to visit vulnerable people and be safe.

Infection rates are a pointless number and just a tool to justify policy.. we need to know how many of those needed actual treatment.... how many were kept in hospitol and how many died.. I know a couple of people who work in different hospitols and thet say they are basically empty.

It just seems the goverment is running around like a headless chicken trying to appease people with knee jerk over reaction

Word

They already publish the hospital numbers and they are available here.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/

They are probably more hospital beds full now than there were at peak Covid, just that there are a lot less people with confirmed Covid and significantly less people on ventilated beds. 

Note the data is clearly not complete.  eg in the earlier dates in the tables as some hospital trusts were reporting zeroes and then there is a big jump in cases; and there are still days when a failure to report has resulted in a zero in the table for individual hospitals.  Tthey clearly need to do better 6 months into the pendemic, how hard can it be to just put in yesterday's figure if no data was received, duh.  I could write a macro to clean the data daily in barely any time at all and they have spent bloody fortunes on this*.  Then again a cynic may suggest they have form for understating figures, so maybe this is deliberate?  :/

Even so, it is clear that hospitals are not empty right now.

* and it wasn't like there was a shortage of volunteers to do this kind of stuff for free. 



TBF it was more metaphorical than literal and just reporting from people on the ground ( nurse at the Alexander Harlow and patient at the Royal free ) of course we all know how accurate gov figures are but going by that 94K occupied at I think the capacity UK is 170K ?..  patient at Royal Free said there were only 2 people in each of the wards he was in..also he was given a fresh Covid test each time he was moved between wards ?? a five minute trip
12  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: COVID19 on: September 10, 2020, 01:15:35 PM
It's worth nothing today's press conference slides showed Covid infections - but not hospitalisations.

A reminder just how dramatically the goalpost has shifted: lockdown was originally about creating capacity in NHS. We certainly have it. Yet restrictions are being re-upped.

new cases are largely through the young and healthy mainly workers and school aged and they are picking up smaller doses due to masks and social distancing
problem lies when the young pick up the virus and go visit granny and granddad and dont take proper precautions thats when the hospitalizations d deaths n

Are they visiting Granny though.. i think the average person knows whose vulnerable etc and maybe not go and see granny and give her a big hug... im sure we have figured out how to visit vulnerable people and be safe.

Infection rates are a pointless number and just a tool to justify policy.. we need to know how many of those needed actual treatment.... how many were kept in hospitol and how many died.. I know a couple of people who work in different hospitols and thet say they are basically empty.

It just seems the goverment is running around like a headless chicken trying to appease people with knee jerk over reaction
13  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: blonde NFL Fantasy League 2019/20 on: September 08, 2020, 02:45:20 PM
Trade Alert

Tifosi Black Hearts trades Kareem Hunt + 2021 2nd rounder for Kreuzbergs 36ers Darren Waller

Might be a problem here. You traded your 2nd pick to Ironside.

Did I..FFS

yeah for a TE i think

hah ok back to the drawing board then
14  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: blonde NFL Fantasy League 2019/20 on: September 08, 2020, 02:22:56 PM
Trade Alert

Tifosi Black Hearts trades Kareem Hunt + 2021 2nd rounder for Kreuzbergs 36ers Darren Waller

Might be a problem here. You traded your 2nd pick to Ironside.

Did I..FFS
15  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: blonde NFL Fantasy League 2019/20 on: September 08, 2020, 02:05:27 PM
Trade Alert

Tifosi Black Hearts trades Kareem Hunt + 2021 2nd rounder for Kreuzbergs 36ers Darren Waller
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