Discipline

[totalise]

Tough question jezza


how am I meant to know hes got AK suited?

theoretically though, giving away trade secrets though, to someone my notes has labelled as ABC-Solid then yes

to Fish-Loose-Aggressive then no


fortunately the fish to ABC quotient is unbalanced at levels from $1-2 down.

not that i'd ever turn down JJ vs AKs for a buyin, but if I were to choose between the two, I would be completely the opposite. If the Fishy lag does win, I'd expect it to be more likely that over time I'd win chips back off him then the Solid guy, so I wouldn't be overly averse to chipping up the lag. Also in my experince, these ABC dudes just rathole if they win a buyin, so in general it (just imo naturally) would be harder to win back from the solid guys then the fishy lags. Thats on the assumption that they aren't just gonna give you a stack when yu flop a set vs their overpair, but if they are solid players, they are gonna be more likely to avoid this pitfall

I think though this thread is a bit dismissive of how simple the whole job would be. Its not easy to win $100 a day every day at any level, let alone 0.50/1.. and considering a great profit level would be around 12 BB's/100 hands, saying it would take 3 hours per day on ONE table would indicate a win rate of about half a big blind per hand. Good luck trying to do that over an extended period

If you are an exceptional player and can make 15BB's/100 hands, then naturally at $15 per 100, you are looking at roughly 700 hands per day to make your $100 target.. and given you play roughly 60 hands/hour/table at full ring, you can see that it probably isn't the walk in the park most people make it out to be.

One of the biggest fallicies in poker is under-estimating the mental ability required to play cash games on a daily basis... the swings can make you feel like giving up (daily).. winning/losing $4,000 (or whatever figure that matters personally to you) in an hour, and then knowing the next hour is going to be the same, and then knowing the next week is going to be the same, and then knowing the next year is going to be the same is a horrible feeling when you are feeling dejected. Its the best place in the world when you are running good, getting paid off, earning money of unseen sums, but the downside (which is always neglected) is quite possibly the lonliest place on the planet mentally. It tests your personal mettle to a higher degree then I have ever experienced, makes you ask questions about yourself, your life/future almost on a daily level, and for a lot of people, the answers to these questions aren't ones they wanna hear. How you react to these inner questions when they arise is how you will guage your ability to beat the cash games on a daily consistent basis

Anyways, after all that.. yes, its certainly do-able, just harder then you would imagine at first glance

best wishes





 

[matt674]

How many people have had this thought if i play my most consistent game i should easily be able to average $100 a day, $100 a day times 30 days thats 3k a month onto of my wages, over a year that is 36k, easy.
How many people can actually do it? or have done it? Wish i had the discipline for that.

Over the last two and a half years when i've been playing poker online seriously for real money i've constantly thought that. However for me the discipline comes by keeping away from the cash games and the sit and go's when i have the odd hour to spare, resisting the temptation to go for a quick fix!! 

[Graham C]

Discipline is a big problem for me.  I tend to drift off if things are slow and find myself getting a bit bored so I either start surfing around or play a couple of hands I shouldn't get involved with.  I'm working on it at the moment, little things like actually letting go of the mouse in between goes helps and playing a couple or 3 tables at a time helps too.


Anyway, discipline is a problem for me but I think I'm getting better.

[Sark79]

How many people have had this thought if i play my most consistent game i should easily be able to average $100 a day, $100 a day times 30 days thats 3k a month onto of my wages, over a year that is 36k, easy.
How many people can actually do it? or have done it? Wish i had the discipline for that.

Over the last two and a half years when i've been playing poker online seriously for real money i've constantly thought that. However for me the discipline comes by keeping away from the cash games and the sit and go's when i have the odd hour to spare, resisting the temptation to go for a quick fix!! 

Do you not like cash games at all matt?.  I know Tikay has said he only plays cash games while playing live rather than online.  Are you the same?.  I have always found this is a difficult part of poker.

 Do you focus your energies on becoming good in one area such as mtt. By doing this, you become a consistent winner such as yourself matt. Or do you play a mix of different types of games... mtt, stt, HU and cash games. By taking this approach it is possible that a player may not be able to fully realise their potential in one style of poker because they are always jumping between the various types.  I am beginning to feel there are only certain people that can do everything well and others like myself have to make the most of a lesser knowledge base in terms of poker. I think by sticking to one type such as matt does seems to be the way to go. That way you can become really good at it and make money.  I still love ring games the most, but loose money trying other types because I don't yet have the ability to say "NO" to myself.

[The Rivercard]

To me anything you do should be enjoyable. I have been a recreational player for 30 years and have only recently (the last three years) started playing more. I prefer live to on line everytime but most of all I want to enjoy what I do. There seems to be so many players that play everyday on line and no longer enjoy the game. This is obviously going to burn them out and will result in them losing. Poker cannot be played well with to much emotion attatched, if you are tired,bored, buzzed or angry you will not play your best game.

So the discipline is as much about balancing your life off the table as it is on it. If poker becomes a chore...walk away for a while, it will still be there when you come back. Play the games that give you confidence and challenge yourself in a way that makes you fel positive, not scared or bored.

If you are questioning everything that you do, the games and structures that you play and the hours that you put in........then its time to take a break.......Vegas is nice at this time of year 

Keep on smiling

 

[MrMoves]

I find poker can be tough if you have to grind it out every single day.

I try and play a little each day, recently heads-up games from $50 - $200 on Stars somewhere I haven't really played heads-up or STT to any real extent previously, with the odd $300 on Poker Heaven.  These short games keep my interest whilst supplying an income above your average burger flipper.

If I had to play for a living I would play $1/$2 and $2/$4 NL.  I played this level for 40 days last year and averaged $282 per day.  50c/$1 NL would surely make any reasonable player $100 a day if that's what to you're looking for.

[Royal Flush]

That 2+2 thread was eyeopening.

a mill is pretty reasonable

Since when is making $1m just resonable

[ACE2M]

I said this after watching and talking to the scandies in monaco, that the real money is being made playing cash games.

That 2+2 thread is an eye opener if you take it as all true but the % of players acheving that kind of cash must be miniscule.

[Royal Flush]

I said this after watching and talking to the scandies in monaco, that the real money is being made playing cash games.

That 2+2 thread is an eye opener if you take it as all true but the % of players acheving that kind of cash must be miniscule.

of course, but hell making just 1/4 of that would be fecking class!

[ACE2M]

I said this after watching and talking to the scandies in monaco, that the real money is being made playing cash games.

That 2+2 thread is an eye opener if you take it as all true but the % of players acheving that kind of cash must be miniscule.

of course, but hell making just 1/4 of that would be fecking class!

very true. You do have to be a good player tho.

[byronkincaid]

Read the LOLtrickedU posts in the BBV forum. Posts as ehustler, 19 years old $200K per month IIRC.