First Hand of the WSOP...

[RyG]

Has anyone ever been knocked out of the main event on the first hand?!?!

If not, think of the publicity....

[Junior Senior]

RyG - yes lots of times i would imagine but a real example is a guy from Nottingham - (Ian McDonald) had this happen in 2004.  he had KK and raised - his oppo had AA and smooth called the raise, the board came complete rags and the guy with AA bet out (obviously representing some of the board from the blinds and Ian Moved in. - bye bye!

[The Camel]

Hi Baron,

Yes I remember meeting you at Brian's suite.

I'm not sure which hand you are refering to but I guess it's one of these two (both from the Masterclassics at Amsterdam):

1. I was on  a great table for such a big event... Three bona fida superstars. Start with 10,000 chips blinds 25-50. Guy limps UTG I find KK in second position and raise to 300. 5 Callers! Back to the limper who moves in for 10k! Should I call or pass?

2. The other one I wasn't involved in... It's after a few hours of the comp... Guy moves in early position with 78d... middle posi JJ also moves in. Button finds QQ and calls. SB is KK and moves in. BB is AA!!!! Amazing hand that all the big hands are found in ascending order round the table...

Mikky, no it's not a real example... But Tikay had the nuts with a flush draw at Sheffield on Friday and moved in and was ridiculed at the table for doing it. I reckoned it was excellent play and concocted this example to prove how good the play was...

[snoopy1239]

Mikky, no it's not a real example... But Tikay had the nuts with a flush draw at Sheffield on Friday and moved in and was ridiculed at the table for doing it. I reckoned it was excellent play and concocted this example to prove how good the play was...

I don't see it as a ridiculous play either.

Nothing wrong with preventing a split pot, or worse, allowing a full house to hit.

[The Baron]

Hi Baron,

Yes I remember meeting you at Brian's suite.

I'm not sure which hand you are refering to but I guess it's one of these two (both from the Masterclassics at Amsterdam):

1. I was on  a great table for such a big event... Three bona fida superstars. Start with 10,000 chips blinds 25-50. Guy limps UTG I find KK in second position and raise to 300. 5 Callers! Back to the limper who moves in for 10k! Should I call or pass?

2. The other one I wasn't involved in... It's after a few hours of the comp... Guy moves in early position with 78d... middle posi JJ also moves in. Button finds QQ and calls. SB is KK and moves in. BB is AA!!!! Amazing hand that all the big hands are found in ascending order round the table...

Yes I think it was example 1. That had me thinking for a few hours. Ugly as hell, especially with 5 people behind you. At first I though you should move in but the more I think about it the less I like your hand in this spot. Did you ever see his hand?

[wsopin07]

Actual hand I played this year!!!!!

1st hand of the 2005 wsop $2,000 circuit event at the Rio in March.

I have the button w/ Men the Master seated to my left, 6 limpers ahead of me , I call the 25 w/ 4d5d.(started w/ 2,000 in chips)

Flop is ,3h,3s

3 players check, 4th bets 100, fold, fold, I call, Men makes it 250(hes in the small blind) , everyone folds to me and I call.

Turn is , Men bets 550, what do you do now! I have made my straight but there is a pair on the board

So many things go into theses questions, are you willing to lose early in some comps to give yourself a great start?
Who is the player you are playing against, I consider Men a gambler!

What do you think?

I pushed hoping he had a 3 and would call or was on a flush draw and may fold (he may be commited). If he calls I still may be ahead, if he folds im happy w/ that. I dont think he bets that big if he had turned the  F house,  

Men called and had the /jd, river was no help and Men bitched to everyone that would listen on how bad I had played the hand.

A number of things made me call the bet on the flop, most important was the fact that I did not want to have a "long day" w/ Men stealling and outplaying me after flops, I thought it was best to gamble early and get chips early. How many times are you going to get a chance that good on the 1st hand of a comp.

[tikay]

4-5, 4-7, you must start loosening up Brian..........

[wsopin07]

tikay, go to cardplayer.com and look at the live updates of the $10,000 main event in Tunica to see the hand that John Juanda played, he pushed 25,000 in chips and you will not believe what he had

[Royal Flush]

I have just stumbled onto this thread.

I dont see why we are even talking about this hand. I would make the same play evreyday of the week. It's almost certain that 1 of your opponents has an A and if they do u get a 20% chance of taking their stack. If they dont have an A well you arent getting much more out of them anyway.

I have made the same play many times. and a few times hit the flush!!

Tikay it was perfect play, wd.

[tikay]

Brian - 4-7? I prefer J-4.....

Royal Flush - ty. But I did get some flak, although admittedly, at the time, I was going through something of a reverse rush, distributing chips willy nilly to one & all. You know, one of those those occasions when a muppet has a big stack, & the table are all whispering to each other " "I want some of them, leave a few for me"....

[Royal Flush]

You know, one of those those occasions when a muppet has a big stack, & the table are all whispering to each other " "I want some of them, leave a few for me"....

I have no idea what you are talking about 

[The Camel]

Yes I think it was example 1. That had me thinking for a few hours. Ugly as hell, especially with 5 people behind you. At first I though you should move in but the more I think about it the less I like your hand in this spot. Did you ever see his hand?
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Immediately after the hand he told me he had AA. But at the bar a couple of days later he told me he had AK. You pays your money and takes your choice.

I asked a few top players what they would have done in my spot. Devilfish, Surinder and Asher Derei all said it was a definite call.

But when that table broke I had nearly 40k in chips so I guess passing wasn't a bad option after all...