Could i got him to call a bet?

[Enzyme_]

Omaha Cash Game

- cashflow7 sitting in seat 2 with $188.44
- Enzyme_ sitting in seat 3 with $417.68 [Dealer]
- Danken sitting in seat 4 with $142.55 [Sitting out]
- Trout sitting in seat 5 with $200.00 [Sitting out]
- Baron7 sitting in seat 6 with $106.84

Baron7 posted the small blind - $1.00
cashflow7 posted the big blind - $2.00

** Dealing card to Enzyme_: Queen of Hearts, 7 of Spades, Queen of Diamonds, 6 of Hearts
Enzyme_ raised - $7.00
Baron7 folded
cashflow7 called - $7.00

** Dealing the flop: 3 of Clubs, 3 of Spades, Queen of Clubs
cashflow7 checked
Enzyme_ bet - $6.00
cashflow7 raised - $24.00
Enzyme_ called - $24.00

** Dealing the turn: Jack of Spades
cashflow7 bet - $56.00
Enzyme_ called - $56.00

** Dealing the river: 10 of Clubs
cashflow7 checked
Enzyme_ bet - $106.00
cashflow7 folded
Enzyme_ mucks: Queen of Hearts, 7 of Spades, Queen of Diamonds, 6 of Hearts
Enzyme_ mucks:
Enzyme_ wins $280.00 from the main pot

I feel i prolly overbet there so he wouldnt call, any comments would be most apprieciated!

[totalise]

raise turn.. then you dont need to worry about getting paid on the river

[boldie]

raise turn.. then you dont need to worry about getting paid on the river

yes. I assume enzyme thought the boy was going for the nut flush draw (fair assumption) but in this case when  the flush comes out and enzyme bets, the guy folds therefore this guy had trip 3's was hoping for the board to give him one of his other cards and that didn't happen but he knew his trip threes were beaten (the flush is out there afterall and a low set is nothing in omaha)

so no enzyme  this guy's hand would not allow him to call any substantial raise after the river...on the turn he might have called though but a decent omaha player wouldn't have IMO.

you got as much out of it as possible I reckon.

[Royal Flush]

Why did you raise pre flop? 

[totalise]

Why did you raise pre flop? 

you serious? 3 handed you should be raising a real wide variety of hands on the button... QQxx is definately good enough for a raise.

[Nem]

raise turn.. then you dont need to worry about getting paid on the river

[boldie]

Why did you raise pre flop? 

you serious? 3 handed you should be raising a real wide variety of hands on the button... QQxx is definately good enough for a raise.

and he also has the offsuit straight draw...not a bad hand 3 handed. (i might not have raised but I can see people doing it)

[Royal Flush]

I didn't see 2 players were sitting out.

I am still not a big fan of pot building with 2 outs.

[totalise]

I didn't see 2 players were sitting out.

I am still not a big fan of pot building with 2 outs.

if you play omaha in a manner that means you can only possibly play postflop if you flop a set, then I guess you should probably not raise preflop, and should probably not play short handed either. I guess you dont raise AAxx for the same reason huh? Hell, you probably dont raise 8910Jdbl suited because you aren't a fan of building a pot needing runner runner.

not all pots have to be won at showdown, and not all pots have to be over $400.

[ifm]

I guess you dont raise AAxx for the same reason huh? Hell, you probably dont raise 8910Jdbl suited because you aren't a fan of building a pot needing runner runner.

not all pots have to be won at showdown, and not all pots have to be over $400.

That bears no relation to what flushy said mate.

[totalise]

since when did common sense overcome the inherent need to try and take a pop at flushy!?

[Royal Flush]

I didn't see 2 players were sitting out.

I am still not a big fan of pot building with 2 outs.

if you play omaha in a manner that means you can only possibly play postflop if you flop a set, then I guess you should probably not raise preflop, and should probably not play short handed either. I guess you dont raise AAxx for the same reason huh? Hell, you probably dont raise 8910Jdbl suited because you aren't a fan of building a pot needing runner runner.

not all pots have to be won at showdown, and not all pots have to be over $400.

The problem i have with raising QQxx pre flop is that 25% of the time you will have a K or A on the flop, so to be firing a bet is a complete bluff. The rest of the time (when you don't flop a set) you will be firing on 1 pair, again just praying you havent been outflopped.

AA has 2 advantages going for it, it can't face an overcard on the board and it will make the nut FD. I am still not a huge fan of raising with it, although of course 3 handed on the button i will. Unless the other players know how to play shorthanded then there is little point in raising PP's pre flop as you will just get played off.

JT98ds evrey day of the week, this is a hand i can put big bets in on the flop knowing exactly where i am!

since when did common sense overcome the inherent need to try and take a pop at flushy!?

Tis true!

[Enzyme_]

I Raised Preflop cause the table was being fairly tight and two guys had just sat out, i had joined them and this was my final hand so i was raising to hope they might fold but it done not too shabby