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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2005, 11:52:03 PM »

Yeah, I saw that one, Homer.  Oriental guy.  Can't remember his name.  Total mad gambler the whole game.

Yeah, and then Layne Flack lost heads up when his 99 was beaten by a set of deuces for the title by one of the Brenes boys. People complain about Crypto a bit too much I think. Wink
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2005, 12:02:03 AM »

How about those queens for an outdraw?

55 v AQ

x5Q Q Q
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2005, 12:04:40 AM »

How about those queens for an outdraw?

55 v AQ

x5Q Q Q

He took it remarkably well though.
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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2005, 12:12:09 AM »

Guess it doesn't hurt so much when the comp's free.
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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2005, 12:46:08 AM »

I think watching this final table would stop anyone from moaning about sick beats. Cheesy


[Edit]Actually, I think that's a lie. Nothing would stop people from moaning.
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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2005, 09:22:30 AM »

Spot on Homer.
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2005, 10:10:47 AM »

All the random generators are independently audited

A lot more hands reach the river

A lot more hands per session

A lot more players stay in to hit draws

The effect on the industry if anything was ever proven to be not random would be catastrophic...it would be like turkeys voting for Xmas
 
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2005, 03:11:39 PM »

I wouldn't say it was fixed, but there is a history of badly constructed dealing algorithms... You'd expect these to be solid these days, but have a read of how it can go wrong.

http://www.developer.com/java/other/article.php/616221

Amongst a host of other flaws they eventually got to this:

"... that reduced the number of possible shuffles even further. By synchronizing our program with the system clock on the server generating the pseudo-random number, we are able to reduce the number of possible combinations down to a number on the order of 200,000 possibilities. After that move, the system is ours, since searching through this tiny set of shuffles is trivial and can be done on a PC in real time."

This left them only requiring to see their hole cards and the flop (5 cards) to be able to determine the exact deal and hence every other players hole cards.

Luckily for the players on that site, the guys that discovered this notified the company and recommended a more random dealing algorithm that would produce a much larger range of possible shuffles.

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