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« on: May 15, 2008, 11:35:46 PM »

1. What would you have done on the turn? river?

- $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:23:54 ET - 2008/05/15

Seat 1: mazzler ($247.50)
Seat 2: MrSe777en ($76)
Seat 3: Villain ($211.15)
Seat 4: lars_jensen1987 ($56.05)
Seat 5: AmericanGangstr ($430)
Seat 6: Hero ($200)
Seat 7: twokewl4u169 ($110.20)
Seat 8: Player0177 ($54.05)
Seat 9: PhoenixFR ($179)
MrSe777en posts the small blind of $1
Villain the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [ ]
lars_jensen1987 folds
AmericanGangstr folds
Hero raises to $7
twokewl4u169 folds
Player0177 folds
PhoenixFR calls $7
mazzler folds
MrSe777en calls $6
Villain calls $5
*** FLOP *** [ three clubs ]
MrSe777en bets $10
Villain calls $10
Hero raises to $30
PhoenixFR calls $30
MrSe777en folds
Villain calls $20
*** TURN *** [ three clubs ] []
Villain checks
Hero checks (unsure about flush and the six by this stage)
PhoenixFR checks
*** RIVER *** [ three clubs ] []

Villain bets $75
Hero...........




2. What would you do on turn and river? turn check becomes a bluff catcher is the idea.....

$1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:20:07 ET - 2008/05/15

Seat 1: mazzler ($242.55)
Seat 2: MrSe777en ($0), is sitting out
Seat 3: Villain ($484.15)
Seat 4: OnTilt4Life ($284.95), is sitting out
Seat 5: rexwex ($400.90)
Seat 6: Hero ($205.90)
Seat 7: 3rd Planet ($248.30)
Seat 9: PhoenixFR ($188.25)
mazzler posts the small blind of $1
Villain posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [ ]
rexwex folds
Hero raises to $7
3rd Planet folds
PhoenixFR folds
mazzler folds
Villain calls $5
*** FLOP *** [ two hearts ]
Villain bets $10
Hero raises to $30
Villain calls $20
*** TURN *** [ two hearts ] []
Villain checks
Hero checks

*** RIVER *** [ two hearts ] []

villain bets $42
Hero calls $42



Same villain both hands (26/19)
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 12:47:42 AM »

need some history and read on villain. spewy? bluffy? loose? he looks like all three here from these hands.

Generally call the first couple of times w/o history to get a line on him.


O shit, full ring!
looks like a fold in hand 1 for sure


Hand 2
He's repping a relatively small range if he is good. That said its a marginal decision, so a fold is prolly correct.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 01:20:03 AM »

fold H1, call .
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 10:47:04 AM »

need some history and read on villain. spewy? bluffy? loose? he looks like all three here from these hands.


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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 11:32:18 AM »

why raise flops? are you looking to get all in? why those particular size raises?
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 11:42:47 AM »

why raise flops? are you looking to get all in? why those particular size raises?

i think I'm ahead, so building pot/or as a second option happy enough to take it down. Not necessarily looking to get a stack in

i don't think my turn actions are consistent with this though. Probably due to an exaggerated fear of scare cards!
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 12:49:30 PM »

fold, fold
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2008, 02:26:56 PM »

fold H1, call .
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 05:55:00 PM »

fold, fold
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2008, 11:37:07 AM »

First hand as played - shrug your shoulders and fold. The reraise on the flop is pretty weak in my opinion as you will be giving players the odds to call to chase flushes (at least one of them or perhaps two could have suited broadway cards in that spot). I would raise to between $45 and $50 to define my hand better because otherwise all the players are progressivly getting better odds to call you.

If you do get called by two or three players then I check/fold

I don't think 6x or overpairs are the hands I would be worried about losing to if someone does have you beat. The flopped boat of 3's over 6's is a possibility, as I think most players would call with a set in a multiway pot (even though I dont believe they should set mine very often).

Man this is a tough spot really this whole hand. A perfect example really of why you should bet big pocket pairs aggressively. In this example you did but was unlucky to get so many callers. But people who limp to trap with big pairs and get callers find the hand difficult to play as you have post flop.

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Second hand as played - I would call, but I'm curious as to why you checked the turn? Villain looks like a calling station with no idea how to size bets in these two examples, so curious to know why you think you are behind on the turn. If you are checking to induce him to lead a bet on the river, then you have achieved what you wanted so I would be making the call too. Without knowing results i think the second hand was played rather well.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2008, 05:28:43 PM »

Second hand I did indeed check the turn hoping he would fire the river..he did so with  and as the HH says I called

First hand I folded. Should have priced out the club draw on the flop I suspect.
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