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« on: March 17, 2009, 04:06:30 AM »

PokerStars Game #26047429996: Tournament #147626094, $70+$7 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/03/17 4:02:39 WET [2009/03/17 0:02:39 ET]
Table '147626094 14' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: muvrini (2800 in chips)
Seat 2: upay4mytreez (2990 in chips)
Seat 3: DeathN0te L (3340 in chips)
Seat 4: royalbluff (3000 in chips)
Seat 5: MKKMOO (2970 in chips)
Seat 6: GOHAB$ (2900 in chips)
muvrini: posts small blind 10
upay4mytreez: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MKKMOO [ three diamonds]
DeathN0te L: folds
royalbluff: calls 20
MKKMOO: raises 60 to 80
GOHAB$: folds
muvrini: folds
upay4mytreez: folds
royalbluff: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [ three clubs]
royalbluff: checks
MKKMOO: bets 80
royalbluff: raises 80 to 160
MKKMOO: raises 80 to 240
royalbluff: raises 80 to 320
MKKMOO: raises 80 to 400
royalbluff: raises 266 to 666
MKKMOO: raises 266 to 932
royalbluff: raises 1988 to 2920 and is all-in
MKKMOO: calls 1958 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (30) returned to royalbluff
*** TURN *** [td three clubs] []
*** RIVER *** [td three clubs ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
royalbluff: shows [ ] (a full house, Tens full of Threes)
MKKMOO: shows [ three diamonds] (three of a kind, Threes)
royalbluff collected 5970 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5970 | Rake 0
Board [td three clubs ]
Seat 1: muvrini (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: upay4mytreez (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: DeathN0te L folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: royalbluff showed [ ] and won (5970) with a full house, Tens full of Threes
Seat 5: MKKMOO showed [ three diamonds] and lost with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 6: GOHAB$ (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 04:30:04 AM »

the betting increments seem to be small, even so, I think the 4 x bet rule still applies, if it gets to 4 x bet back to you, there is a serious hand out there, even if he has AA preflop i dont see how he can feel his hand is good when you start a cock waving contest with a board the way it is. from your position i would be concerned,

However in the heat of the moment ( spot the Asia reference ) i think its tough to get away as your initial instinct is to get them in here asap.


although factors that would play a part for me here are, my table image and previous action with this player,  With this being level 1 i doubt there has been much action previous to this.

Also,level 1 and its the small blind thats coming along for a 4 x the bb raise, pf, thats usually a playable hand, sb usually completes or folds unless its blind on blind.



WTF!!! your the bloke with the money, you know the answer to this!  i think you just wanted to post a SIKK hand !

£50 in the tin son.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 09:23:48 AM »

I think you should flat the 5th raise, for deception obviously.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2009, 11:35:03 AM »

Awesome hand

I'm impressed with the 8 bet jam by Royalbluff. He obviously knew he'd finally got you.

To be fair you probably should pass here because he has got to have you beat.

TT, 3x where x>4 are all he can have imo.

Unfortunately it looks like you were enjoying yourself too much and had no choice but to call.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2009, 11:36:58 AM »

A pass there would be quality.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2009, 11:37:25 AM »

I don't see the point in 7-betting tbh, unless you're folding to the 8-bet, and then the 7-bet looks like a wizard play (but I'm still not sure it makes sense).

Think a fold would be fine here.

If I always folded 7-bets to 8-bets with non-nut holdings (assuming I didn't have odds to bink) then it probably wouldn't be a bad thing. Most of the time when I 7-bet I would quite welcome an 8-bet, so folding to the odd 8-bet bluff here and there wouldn't be the end of the world.

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[  ] have ever 7-bet in my life.
[  ] understand wtf is going on in this hand.
[ x ] best guess is that you couldn't be assed using the bet slider Huh?
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 11:45:24 AM »

Did you think you were playing limit by any chance?
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2009, 02:52:54 PM »

Would be absolute comedy if this was TT vs 33
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 02:55:11 PM »

[X] teh lulz
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2009, 01:17:18 AM »

haha. fold would be sooooo good.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2009, 02:51:46 PM »

HH would be so much better if it had a quote from Flushy at the bottom saying, "I didn't think you had it."
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2009, 07:38:12 PM »

James, whats your own self analysis of this hand with hindsight, you think you can fold?  think you could have played it differently ?
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2009, 07:40:17 PM »

I thought it was pretty damn funny! Obv by the time he jams i know i am fucked but what difference, in hindsight its funnier to pass to the 8 bet so i will do that next time.

Played another good one last night where i tried to induce a 6 bet bluff pre flop.
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