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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2009, 05:49:59 PM » |
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Am I missing something or is this a chop?
If you raise pre then raise more. 1200 is ok if the pot is unopened, but as there's 2 limpers add a bit to it. 1800-2000. But generally I just wouldn't raise pre here. You'll often be called and you have to play OOP with a very marginal hand.
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2009, 06:41:58 PM » |
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Am I missing something or is this a chop?
If you raise pre then raise more. 1200 is ok if the pot is unopened, but as there's 2 limpers add a bit to it. 1800-2000. But generally I just wouldn't raise pre here. You'll often be called and you have to play OOP with a very marginal hand.
no charles it wasnt a chop the river cant of been a a ten cos is 9 kicker played and i was knocked out i just meesed the post up . but yeah i agree playing 86 of siut out of postion wasnt great but the hand would have probably had the same conclusion if i had checked , maybe a bigger bet of flop might have took it down. |
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2009, 08:41:30 PM » |
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I dont care if ur ivey, isolating 68o out of position v multiple callers with 25bb is terrible.
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2009, 10:41:44 PM » |
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The answer to the question is no.
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2009, 11:39:32 PM » |
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Lots of missing words confused me somewhat but as far as i can tell we made a play on 2 limpers from OOP with a bad hand and a small raise, not the best idea.
I don't mind the flop lead size as long as we are 3bet smashing it in, obviously this was not the case, you flop like the near nuts after getting funky pre, don't start betting out to fold in these spots!
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2009, 12:04:07 AM » |
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This is one of the weirdest hh's ive ever read
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2009, 09:37:57 AM » |
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2009, 12:50:37 PM » |
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yeah sorry i my descriptions are not very good, i raised cos i knew one of the limpers would fold if didnt have anything and the other guy is a complete numpty and new could out play him on flop had seen him call an all in for 4k with 69 v a j, i only raised 3 times cos it had been getting through on the table
Dont raise pre, dont bet the flop once you hit mp. Dont try and bluff people who cant fold. |
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2009, 01:15:19 PM » |
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How do you want him to play the flop when he hits? Check call is a disaster.
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2009, 01:35:20 PM » |
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How do you want him to play the flop when he hits? Check call is a disaster.
I wouldn't be betting to fold once i'd raised. I would never really raise 86o here though. |
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« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2009, 10:14:02 PM » |
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How do you want him to play the flop when he hits? Check call is a disaster.
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« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2009, 11:47:33 PM » |
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How do you want him to play the flop when he hits? Check call is a disaster.
oh to run that good |
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2009, 02:57:05 AM » |
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ok so we have established that my raise pre was probably a mistake but would the end result still have been the same if i had checked ?? imo it probably would have panned out same way unless i checked the flop and he put abig bet in!
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2009, 11:19:46 AM » |
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ok so we have established that my raise pre was probably a mistake but would the end result still have been the same if i had checked ?? imo it probably would have panned out same way unless i checked the flop and he put abig bet in!
That's results orientated thinking though. Don't look at what happened at the end of the hand. Eliminate the mistakes you make pre and on the flop. |
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