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« on: February 15, 2010, 11:11:32 AM »

5 left in the DTD £50 deepstack
20,000/40,000/4,000
The table skipped the previous break but has just agreed to take 10 after this hand

v approx stacks

Button - 500,000 - tight, folded AQ from BB on the last table when I raised from UTG
SB - 700,000 - had been tight, but knocked out the last player to leave when he called the shove with 
BB - 700,000 - she's shoved over raises a lot, but folded to shoves...
UTG - 400,000 - tight
Me - 200,000, made a bad call all in pre flop two hands ago with  and met 

UTG folds, I have  three diamonds, the whole table wanted the break....
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 11:16:08 AM »

No urrrghs from me, we add 40% to our stack if we get it through 3 players, if we get a call we're probs never worse than 30%, plus you seen keen on mentioning the break so you think its factor that people will fold, no question it goes in, very few hands wouldn't here.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 11:26:22 AM »

I'm struggling to see what the decision is here. unless you've typed the stack sizes wrong this is a no-brainer shove
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 11:40:20 AM »

Thought so

what's the calling range for SB and BB?
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 11:50:43 AM »

Not through wiz, off top of head would say:

SB has to call 180k to win 460k = Any pair, A9+, KJ+, K10 S

BB has to call 160k to win 460k = Any pair, A6+, any suited A, K10+, K8 S, QJ, Q10 S
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 02:44:24 PM »

Shoving atc here.

Fist pump shoving K3 blue if I think I may even get called and actually be ahead.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 07:26:19 PM »

Wouldn't bother looking at my cards here. Just fake look at them and then stick them in. Live donks never call wide enough to make 23o a bad shove.

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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 07:34:30 PM »

Not through wiz, off top of head would say:

SB has to call 180k to win 460k = Any pair, A9+, KJ+, K10 S

BB has to call 160k to win 460k = Any pair, A6+, any suited A, K10+, K8 S, QJ, Q10 S
Calling ranges.
As a live donk,this is one area of my game I never seem to get to grips with properly.
What factors should I be taking into account to enable me to widen my range sensibly?
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 07:36:59 PM »


Me - 200,000, made a bad call all in pre flop two hands ago with  and met 


When the average is 12 BB's, I'm not sure there is such a thing as a bad call with 77.
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 07:38:36 PM »


Me - 200,000, made a bad call all in pre flop two hands ago with  and met 


When the average is 12 BB's, I'm not sure there is such a thing as a bad call with 77.


You would hope so, that ppl ranges are so ridic tight that it might well have been bad.

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