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« Reply #75 on: March 16, 2010, 05:04:11 AM »

was using that stake more as a learning tool and can honestly say it worked. anyone reading your posts will realise your not a learning tool. just a spanner who has absolutely no idea how to play the game.

The person you sought poker advice from agrees with my contribution in this thread. Yet you enter the thread just to flame me for making that contribution. Anybody not blinded by clique membership will see the irony very clearly.

If you read both our contributions to this poker discussion you will see quite clearly who the spanner is. My posts were genuine and sought to provoke debate about poker and utilse the board for it's intended purpose. Your posts were designed purely to flame. This only spoils the board for members who want to use it for their own learning tool just like you used Longy. Funny cos he was staking you for small buy-ins a few weeks ago and suddenly you seem to be scoffing at people who play those kind of stakes or locally at their casino. That's prob about 95% of Blondes. You have come across as a cheeky kid in this thread, like a bit of fortune has gone straight to your head, luck comes and goes buddy but class is a timeless commodity, and it's a quality you seem to lack.

OK a few things:

1) I disagree with those saying varying pre flop sizing. I don't think in full ring it can work. It's far too exploitable.
2) I'm not bashing anyone who plays low buy in events at local casinos. It's where I started. I still play them. I enjoy it. However I wouldn't ask the local players for hand advice. They're not actually that good.
30 As for bashing blondes. I care for blonde, the pics when I won the 300 pound event for seventeen and a half thousand pounds kissing the badge prove that. Hence point number 2- your accusation of "flaming" is me trying to protect blonde from your "advice"
4) Longy is right. What happened during that stake is our business. No one elses. There were reasons I did it and reasons it didn't work mainly that I found sit and go's a grind. I haven't played any 45 manners since the arrangement ended.
5) As Cos says. [ ] You know me. I don't usually do cheap jibes but for you "buddy" I'll make an exception
6) http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=84288

haha that is class
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« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2010, 10:25:01 AM »

You literally are all terrible.

A great drunk post that ive been told not to make anymore.

Cheesy
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« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2010, 10:33:13 AM »

as soon as you posted demps i knew it would be some kind of sycophantic lure towards dave.
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« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2010, 10:41:54 AM »

sycophantic

WOTD IMO.
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« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2010, 10:57:31 AM »

as soon as you posted demps i knew it would be some kind of sycophantic lure towards dave.

Eh? Let me make it clearer for you.

DO NOT VARY YOUR RAISE SIZING
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« Reply #80 on: March 16, 2010, 11:12:51 AM »

Yes, it is a nice word. You learn something every day on these boards. :-)  I've actually found this thread extremely helpful in improving my appreciation of the importance of raise sizing, positional advantage and when to defend, or, not to defend, the blinds. Maybe even a watershed moment for me. I live in hope.
  Thanks again to Ironside, the original poster and to everyone who has chimed in with little nuggets of advice. Smiley
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« Reply #81 on: March 16, 2010, 12:25:34 PM »


I'm confused now.

I thought that the whole point of Mantis' posts was that increasing your raise when you know you can exploit the BB's tendency to call then c/fold the flop is a good thing, and this appears to be agreeing with that strategy.

Varying your raise sizing is great if you know how an oppo will react to the different bets, if however you don't know how he will react it just adds in another variable and makes taking optimal lines a lot harder.



I may have misunderstood though - especially given this later post

as soon as you posted demps i knew it would be some kind of sycophantic lure towards dave.

Eh? Let me make it clearer for you.

DO NOT VARY YOUR RAISE SIZING



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« Reply #82 on: March 16, 2010, 12:51:34 PM »


I'm confused now.

I thought that the whole point of Mantis' posts was that increasing your raise when you know you can exploit the BB's tendency to call then c/fold the flop is a good thing, and this appears to be agreeing with that strategy.

Varying your raise sizing is great if you know how an oppo will react to the different bets, if however you don't know how he will react it just adds in another variable and makes taking optimal lines a lot harder.



I may have misunderstood though - especially given this later post

as soon as you posted demps i knew it would be some kind of sycophantic lure towards dave.

Eh? Let me make it clearer for you.

DO NOT VARY YOUR RAISE SIZING





I think Mr Flush saying DO NOT VARY YOUR RAISE SIZING is aimed towards the majority of players. Players who are good enough to vary it in the right circumstances know why they are doing it and will use it to exploit other player's weaknesses.

If you aren't 100% certain of the reason for varying a raise size then don't do it.

Personally speaking I very rarely vary my raise size. When I do it's because I've picked up on a particular tendancy from a particular player and decide to exploit it. This is usually in live play because online you just don't get the opportunity that often.

You have to be careful though because if there's a good player at the table he may also notice what you've spotted and realise what you're up to so use it to exploit you.

So unless you're very good and know that there's nobody good enough to spot what you're up to DON'T DO IT. It's just easier.
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« Reply #83 on: March 16, 2010, 09:48:58 PM »

The problem is you wont know what the player your trying to exploit thinks of your different raise sizing so unless you know his thought process it make determining his range a lot harder.

Yeah in live games you can get away with it and vs people you play often you can get away with it, vs some random in a low stakes (especially) MTT just dont do it.
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« Reply #84 on: March 17, 2010, 11:58:51 PM »

You also have to be careful that while you think you have a golden tell that you are exploiting, your opponent hasn't worked out what was going on and adjusted.  By time you work out that he has adjusted, you could have cost yourself a few chips.

This happened to me a while back playing LHE.  I had a habit of donking flops with a set.  Regardless of the merits of donk bets, I was experimenting with it because it had won me some giant pots where opponents had discounted sets from my range because "he would definitely slow play a set there."  I was trying to work out if those giant pots were earning me enough to compensate for the times where I won a smaller pot by not check raising.  Anyway, I did notice that one particular opponent was folding to my donk bet 100% of the time, so obviously I started donking a whole lot more against him.  I spoke to him months after by chance, and he mentioned that he had a nice spot exploiting my donked sets by folding cheaply.  I somehow forgot to tell him that I'd noticed that he'd noticed, and was now picking his pocket.
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