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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2012, 04:16:06 PM »

to be fair we can make every straight

we can make all but 1 straight Cheesy

Which one is it....

56789?
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« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2012, 04:24:43 PM »

to be fair we can make every straight

we can make all but 1 straight Cheesy

Which one is it....

KQA23?
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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2012, 04:25:07 PM »

to be fair we can make every straight

we can make all but 1 straight Cheesy

Which one is it....

56789?

This makes more sense Tongue
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« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2012, 12:53:55 PM »

Mr. Honeybadger said something a few threads ago that is extremely apt.

The maths is extremely unforgiving when you have no outs, and is actually surprisingly forgiving if you have even a slither of equity.


This is referring to pre-flop ofc, not the turn.

It applies to the turn just as much IMHO.

yh I guess it does. Making the turn play pretty fine imo, although I still maintain I'm not sure we really need to overbet the turn.

Hmmmm... this is not what I meant when I said it applied to the turn too! We don't really have any significant equity on the turn when our bet is called. Especially given the size of the turn bet. Yes we have a 5-outer, but it is not even guaranteed to be good so we have to heavily discount that. I suppose we do have the wheely chop, but whatever.

Whole hand is horrible... sorry Pleno1.
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« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2012, 01:05:23 PM »

I didn't go into detail because I asked for opinions on the tub rather than preflop or flop which I'm both v v happy about and probably 'aaroned' ... Unable to convince otherwise..

The expression aaroned is brilliant and needs a lot of love imo.
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« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2012, 10:48:34 PM »

Mr. Honeybadger said something a few threads ago that is extremely apt.

The maths is extremely unforgiving when you have no outs, and is actually surprisingly forgiving if you have even a slither of equity.


This is referring to pre-flop ofc, not the turn.

It applies to the turn just as much IMHO.

yh I guess it does. Making the turn play pretty fine imo, although I still maintain I'm not sure we really need to overbet the turn.

Hmmmm... this is not what I meant when I said it applied to the turn too! We don't really have any significant equity on the turn when our bet is called. Especially given the size of the turn bet. Yes we have a 5-outer, but it is not even guaranteed to be good so we have to heavily discount that. I suppose we do have the wheely chop, but whatever.

Whole hand is horrible... sorry Pleno1.

Basically, as we say the whole hand is a compound of the 3bet pre-flop. I don't dislike the turn play particularly once we've gotten there, but I think ending up there is a mistake personally
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« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2012, 10:53:06 PM »

Wait till 2016 you all gonna quote this thread and be like lol you were 4 years ahead of time, then in 2919 we all gonna be like lol2016 3bet jj+ you morons
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« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2012, 11:42:01 PM »

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