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« Reply #120 on: October 27, 2012, 02:37:43 AM »

 I posted a suggestion as to how the legs could be squeezed into 3 days rather than four. My idea would get more hands per hour for everyone, would keep the structure the same and would mean recreationals would have to take less time off work.

 It wasn't self-interest as I never make the final and I'm a massive nit who would really prefer 11-handed.
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« Reply #121 on: October 27, 2012, 02:56:52 AM »

I posted a suggestion as to how the legs could be squeezed into 3 days rather than four. My idea would get more hands per hour for everyone, would keep the structure the same and would mean recreationals would have to take less time off work.

 It wasn't self-interest as I never make the final and I'm a massive nit who would really prefer 11-handed.

Lol, it was a good suggestion but unfortunately I can't see it ever catching on, given that it hasn't already. Has it been shown that it definitely works? Because even at the same venue they still make the 1k a 10/11handed yawnfest-crapshoot every year.

Even if it does work, you have to convince card room managers used to thinking in the short term: "I have 96 players on 12 tables, I could make them 10 handed and then have 2 dealers for cash". Even if you did manage to change their minds, its a dead cert they would have players complaining at them about cash game lists and demanding to know why the tourn can't go 10 handed.
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« Reply #122 on: October 27, 2012, 04:11:19 AM »

yet to see anyone post on what would be better for the tour on a whole rather than personal interests, apart from keys and bram, im sure they are hoping that it becomes a £3k+ buyin in the future which attracts players from abroad

What's best for the tour is high a % of recreational players as possible imo.

Then make it a freeroll...
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« Reply #123 on: October 27, 2012, 04:53:50 AM »

Every year something will change, and the proof will be (as they say) in the pudding.

If stars make it a £1k and it bombs, they'll change it back to £700 most likely.
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« Reply #124 on: October 27, 2012, 12:01:35 PM »

Skolsuper i'll say it again in reference to tournaments in Europe....demographics.

You really can't compare the UK and Italy when it comes to poker, casinos in the UK are typically shit new warehouses that attract people with not much money. Casino's in Italy are amazingly grand places, quite often the nut place to hangout in an evening and thus attract people with a boat load of money.
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« Reply #125 on: October 28, 2012, 01:07:48 AM »

I think the UKIPT is pretty good as it is, and to change too much would alienate the people who have made it such a success.

If Stars wanted to enter into the almost untouched ~£2k UK market, why not do it under the Full Tilt brand. Would be fresh and feel like a new tour, rather than an adaption of an old one.
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« Reply #126 on: October 28, 2012, 01:15:54 AM »

I think the UKIPT is pretty good as it is, and to change too much would alienate the people who have made it such a success.

If Stars wanted to enter into the almost untouched ~£2k UK market, why not do it under the Full Tilt brand. Would be fresh and feel like a new tour, rather than an adaption of an old one.

Who is the ~£2k market in the UK? I wish we had one but outside of pros we don't really Sad
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« Reply #127 on: October 28, 2012, 02:35:54 AM »

I think the UKIPT is pretty good as it is, and to change too much would alienate the people who have made it such a success.

If Stars wanted to enter into the almost untouched ~£2k UK market, why not do it under the Full Tilt brand. Would be fresh and feel like a new tour, rather than an adaption of an old one.

Who is the ~£2k market in the UK? I wish we had one but outside of pros we don't really Sad

Your probably rite, but theyre still gonne be able to put a chunk of people in through sattelites, and you would get people travelling from the European circuit to play if the locations were chosen well/ coincided with other big events.
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« Reply #128 on: October 28, 2012, 12:38:32 PM »

I think the UKIPT is pretty good as it is, and to change too much would alienate the people who have made it such a success.

If Stars wanted to enter into the almost untouched ~£2k UK market, why not do it under the Full Tilt brand. Would be fresh and feel like a new tour, rather than an adaption of an old one.

Who is the ~£2k market in the UK? I wish we had one but outside of pros we don't really Sad

Your probably rite, but they're still gonna be able to put a chunk of people in through satellites, and you would get people traveling from the European circuit to play if the locations were chosen well/ coincided with other big events.

 I think stars could put on a £2k buy in event bi monthly or quarterly if they wanted to. I don't think they would struggle to get over 100 runners and if you are going to get 50%+ of the field from online sats it will make it more likely that the traveling European players will make the effort as well.
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« Reply #129 on: October 29, 2012, 11:08:55 AM »

Every year something will change, and the proof will be (as they say) in the pudding.

If stars make it a £1k and it bombs, they'll change it back to £700 most likely.


This is pretty much what happened with the EPT isn't it? Kept nudging up the buy-ins until they got a bit high then levelled out. Perfectly reasonable to experiment with this. It either works or it doesn't. And it's pretty easy to fix on the fly.

Presumably if they raise it from £770 to £1070 it's hard to say they are being greedy. Surely it's just a case of trying to boost the prizepool.
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« Reply #130 on: October 29, 2012, 11:10:57 AM »

Play every leg at Dtd for the biggest prize pools.
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« Reply #131 on: October 29, 2012, 04:57:48 PM »

Every year something will change, and the proof will be (as they say) in the pudding.

If stars make it a £1k and it bombs, they'll change it back to £700 most likely.


This is pretty much what happened with the EPT isn't it? Kept nudging up the buy-ins until they got a bit high then levelled out. Perfectly reasonable to experiment with this. It either works or it doesn't. And it's pretty easy to fix on the fly.

Presumably if they raise it from £770 to £1070 it's hard to say they are being greedy. Surely it's just a case of trying to boost the prizepool.

If the buyin goes up 40%, do you think the PP will? I just can't see it happening, I can see hardly any improvement whatsoever to all PP's on the UKIPT tour.
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« Reply #132 on: October 30, 2012, 01:00:21 AM »


Keep the great structure. All the blind levels and one hour clock. It what keeps the UKIPT in the top tier of tours.
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« Reply #133 on: October 30, 2012, 11:42:23 AM »

Hi all,

Thank you again for all the feedback.

I think it is clear that it is impossible to please all of the people all of the time but we will certainly look at any changes from all possible angles and hopefully come up with something that gives a great customer experience across the entire community of UK & Irish poker players.

Quick update on Bristol:

We already have well in excess of 250 players pre-registered for the event and are expecting Day 1B to be extremely busy/sell out. We would advise that you pre-book your seat if you can only play Day 1B.

Please note that you can only buy-in to the main event and the high roller using your PokerStars account.


Thanks all,

Jamie

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