people playing music on buses

[byronkincaid]

Maybe its a London thing all this ill-mannered-ness at rush hour. I've caught the train at various times into Glasgow central whch is the busiest underground I've been on outside of London, Liverpool and Paris and nobody seems to have this problem. Scottish people have their faults, but this isn't one of them. And most of them will say "Areet" to strangers in the street, most of them also getting an a similar greeting back.

The trains are remarkably clean too. And the single decker buses that serve my area. Maybe its 'cos they are new.

HTF have I lived in this country for 34 years and didn't know that they had Underground rail systems in Scotland and Liverpool? I feeling a little bit freaked out by this. How much other stuff am I completely ignorant about. Wow. I would have thought I would have seen something sometime on the TV or news or something??? Maybe people fly around Wales on magic carpets and I've missed that as well.

[Claw75]

Maybe its a London thing all this ill-mannered-ness at rush hour. I've caught the train at various times into Glasgow central whch is the busiest underground I've been on outside of London, Liverpool and Paris and nobody seems to have this problem. Scottish people have their faults, but this isn't one of them. And most of them will say "Areet" to strangers in the street, most of them also getting an a similar greeting back.

The trains are remarkably clean too. And the single decker buses that serve my area. Maybe its 'cos they are new.

HTF have I lived in this country for 34 years and didn't know that they had Underground rail systems in Scotland and Liverpool? I feeling a little bit freaked out by this. How much other stuff am I completely ignorant about. Wow. I would have thought I would have seen something sometime on the TV or news or something??? Maybe people fly around Wales on magic carpets and I've missed that as well.

you are kidding about not knowing about the magic carpets, right?  Have you never seen 'Bobinogs'?

[Royal Flush]

HTF have I lived in this country for 34 years and didn't know that they had Underground rail systems in Scotland and Liverpool?

you and me both!

[BrumBilly]

hehe

[mikkyT]

Liverpool underground is I believe older than the Tube (but don't quote me!) There are two tunnels under the Mersey serving road traffic and a tunnel under the mersey serving the Wirral-line train.

The "Liverpool loop" as it is known is a circular underground rail line serving the terminal strations in Chester, Elsmere Port, West Kirby (where the UK Open Golf was held) and New brigton. It becomes an underground line at Hamilton Square station in Birkenhead and serves four underground stations in liverpool - james st, moorfields, lime street (trains to the mainline) and Central. The tunnel was built during the steam train era, and the stations would be quite smoggy! The actual loop was a later edition.

Also there are two "Northern lines" which run through Moorfields and Central stations, serving trains to Southport amongst other places. These are the only two underground bits.

Glasgow has two underground lines. The first is the "clockwork orange", which is a circular, sealed network not joined to any mainline. This serves much of Glasgow city. This may also be older than the Tube. I think actually its the first underground in britain? Again - don't quote me!

the second underground is just an underground part of the SPT edinburgh-glasgow mainline, running through Glasgow central and Argyle street.

[byronkincaid]

much prefer backyardigans

[mikkyT]

HTF have I lived in this country for 34 years and didn't know that they had Underground rail systems in Scotland and Liverpool? I feeling a little bit freaked out by this. How much other stuff am I completely ignorant about. Wow. I would have thought I would have seen something sometime on the TV or news or something??? Maybe people fly around Wales on magic carpets and I've missed that as well.

I've seen the programmes you guys constitute as "news" down in southern land. Its little wonder you never see it on the TV because you don't care that we exist north of the M25

you are kidding about not knowing about the magic carpets, right?  Have you never seen 'Bobinogs'?

We're the bob bob bobinnogs. And the bob bob bob bob bobble bobs on the bobinnog bobble hat.

[Jon MW]

Liverpool underground is I believe older than the Tube (but don't quote me!) There are two tunnels under the Mersey serving road traffic and a tunnel under the mersey serving the Wirral-line train.

The "Liverpool loop" as it is known is a circular underground rail line serving the terminal strations in Chester, Elsmere Port, West Kirby (where the UK Open Golf was held) and New brigton. It becomes an underground line at Hamilton Square station in Birkenhead and serves four underground stations in liverpool - james st, moorfields, lime street (trains to the mainline) and Central. The tunnel was built during the steam train era, and the stations would be quite smoggy! The actual loop was a later edition.

Also there are two "Northern lines" which run through Moorfields and Central stations, serving trains to Southport amongst other places. These are the only two underground bits.

Glasgow has two underground lines. The first is the "clockwork orange", which is a circular, sealed network not joined to any mainline. This serves much of Glasgow city. This may also be older than the Tube. I think actually its the first underground in britain? Again - don't quote me!

the second underground is just an underground part of the SPT edinburgh-glasgow mainline, running through Glasgow central and Argyle street.

I just had to look it up:

London Underground: 1863
Glasgow Underground: 1896
Liverpool Lime Street Station was opened in 1836, but this was just a station which the trains had to go through tunnels to get to. The Wirral Line opened in 1886, but it was only the addition of the 'loop' that made it a proper underground railway - and that was in the 1970's.

In true tabloid journalism style I've taken all my information from only one source, so feel free to contradict me. 

[Claw75]

London Underground was the first in the world, as far as I know.

[mikkyT]

Liverpool underground is I believe older than the Tube (but don't quote me!) There are two tunnels under the Mersey serving road traffic and a tunnel under the mersey serving the Wirral-line train.

The "Liverpool loop" as it is known is a circular underground rail line serving the terminal strations in Chester, Elsmere Port, West Kirby (where the UK Open Golf was held) and New brigton. It becomes an underground line at Hamilton Square station in Birkenhead and serves four underground stations in liverpool - james st, moorfields, lime street (trains to the mainline) and Central. The tunnel was built during the steam train era, and the stations would be quite smoggy! The actual loop was a later edition.

Also there are two "Northern lines" which run through Moorfields and Central stations, serving trains to Southport amongst other places. These are the only two underground bits.

Glasgow has two underground lines. The first is the "clockwork orange", which is a circular, sealed network not joined to any mainline. This serves much of Glasgow city. This may also be older than the Tube. I think actually its the first underground in britain? Again - don't quote me!

the second underground is just an underground part of the SPT edinburgh-glasgow mainline, running through Glasgow central and Argyle street.

I just had to look it up:

London Underground: 1863
Glasgow Underground: 1896
Liverpool Lime Street Station was opened in 1836, but this was just a station which the trains had to go through tunnels to get to. The Wirral Line opened in 1886, but it was only the addition of the 'loop' that made it a proper underground railway - and that was in the 1970's.

In true tabloid journalism style I've taken all my information from only one source, so feel free to contradict me. 

No no thats fair enough. I did say don't quote me Thanks for the clarification. I knew I had read something about the years being similar, and I got the "who came first" bit all muddled. But yes 1836 not a proper underground till the completion of the loop.

[Jon MW]

Liverpool underground is I believe older than the Tube (but don't quote me!) There are two tunnels under the Mersey serving road traffic and a tunnel under the mersey serving the Wirral-line train.

The "Liverpool loop" as it is known is a circular underground rail line serving the terminal strations in Chester, Elsmere Port, West Kirby (where the UK Open Golf was held) and New brigton. It becomes an underground line at Hamilton Square station in Birkenhead and serves four underground stations in liverpool - james st, moorfields, lime street (trains to the mainline) and Central. The tunnel was built during the steam train era, and the stations would be quite smoggy! The actual loop was a later edition.

Also there are two "Northern lines" which run through Moorfields and Central stations, serving trains to Southport amongst other places. These are the only two underground bits.

Glasgow has two underground lines. The first is the "clockwork orange", which is a circular, sealed network not joined to any mainline. This serves much of Glasgow city. This may also be older than the Tube. I think actually its the first underground in britain? Again - don't quote me!

the second underground is just an underground part of the SPT edinburgh-glasgow mainline, running through Glasgow central and Argyle street.

I just had to look it up:

London Underground: 1863
Glasgow Underground: 1896
Liverpool Lime Street Station was opened in 1836, but this was just a station which the trains had to go through tunnels to get to. The Wirral Line opened in 1886, but it was only the addition of the 'loop' that made it a proper underground railway - and that was in the 1970's.

In true tabloid journalism style I've taken all my information from only one source, so feel free to contradict me. 

.... I did say don't quote me ...

OK

[mikkyT]

I love history. But all this talk of trains is feeling very "tikay".