You finally trap your idiot....

[Royal Flush]

you finally trap your idiot...........
shouldn't it be the other guy posting this? Against 2 players on this board you are likely to be against a wrap (which you a marginal favourite) and a bigger set (which your goosed against). I wonder how many peoples buddy alerts go off when you sit on an omaha table?

What wrap on that board am i a marginal fave?

The button is a complete loon, he would be unlikely to pass top pair here.

[ariston]

erm a hand containing 456 or a45 has 12 outs twice v you- is that not marginal enough for you? Not saying it is correct to fold bottom set here but it wouldnt be a flop I liked getting it allin with (in fact I'd probably be thinking oh fk here we go).

[Royal Flush]

erm a hand containing 456 or a45 has 12 outs twice v you- is that not marginal enough for you?

I'll take a 60-40....

[ariston]

What wrap on that board am i a marginal fave?
you asked I answered. 60/40 is marginal favourite in my book (nearer to 55/45 if they have backdoor flush opportunites but why bother with odds). If you are up against a bigger set you can always hit your one outer I suppose. I love a player always willing to lump it in on bottom set no matter what as in the long run they stack off to you (ok you got lucky this time but even if I was the man with QQQ I would still be licking my lips and waiting for you to sit down again).

[ariston]

in fact the tiltle of this thread should read I finally got trapped like an idiot (and sucked out because I'm a lucky fish )

[Royal Flush]

I love a player always willing to lump it in on bottom set no matter what

Like i said before the only reason i got invested was because of the activity of my opponent in the hand, he was a loon.

[NoflopsHomer]

Anyone dropped a low set against a push in OH4?

Many times.

When deep, check/raising with medium/bottom set is often the best way to find out where you are imo. Though you shouldn't ever be playing the bottom sets unless you have other outs too. Notes notes and more notes on the players are a must too.

[ariston]

I love a player always willing to lump it in on bottom set no matter what

Like i said before the only reason i got invested was because of the activity of my opponent in the hand, he was a loon.

fair enough, I have several Italians and Greek players I wouldn't dream of laying bottom set down to but the problems arise when you have 2 opponents. And remember just because hes a lunatic it doesn't mean he doesn't have the hand- even a blind squirrel can find its nuts.

[ariston]

Anyone dropped a low set against a push in OH4?

Many times.

When deep, check/raising with medium/bottom set is often the best way to find out where you are imo. Though you shouldn't ever be playing the bottom sets unless you have other outs too. Notes notes and more notes on the players are a must too.

there are ceratin opponents in the games I play every day that I would drop 2nd set down to without worrying or reraising for information. Others I would be hard to fold top and bottom pair to. I have even been known to lay down top set on broken flops because I know exactly the hands I'm up against because of the action before me. Bottom set in omaha is a trick and if you continue to play it like you did in this hand James you will be marked down as a fish by the real players on the table (whereas its took quite a while for most on here to learn how much of a fish you are )

[Royal Flush]

I love a player always willing to lump it in on bottom set no matter what

Like i said before the only reason i got invested was because of the activity of my opponent in the hand, he was a loon.

fair enough, I have several Italians and Greek players I wouldn't dream of laying bottom set down to but the problems arise when you have 2 opponents. And remember just because hes a lunatic it doesn't mean he doesn't have the hand- even a blind squirrel can find its nuts.

yeah of course, the guy with 150 is a concern but its only $150.

[fearisthekey]

keep going, chaps, first blonde thread i've saved to reread before my next omaha game. good stuff.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

You hit a one outer, then i have this done to me...

#Game No : 5942543084
***** Hand History for Game 5942543084 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $55 USD Buy-in Trny: 33278722 Level: 3   Blinds(50/100) - Sunday, May 06, 07:05:47 ET 2007
Table Speed #1330175 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: BPRookieITB ( 1,880 )
Seat 1: Pikey7 ( 2,060 )
Seat 3: napier26 ( 3,540 )
Seat 4: QueenHigher ( 1,910 )
Seat 9: NUTZBOT ( 3,700 )
Seat 7: rjblack ( 2,400 )
Seat 6: uRSliver123 ( 1,170 )
Seat 5: apezmonkeyz ( 3,340 )
Trny: 33278722 Level: 3
 Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BPRookieITB [  ]
napier26 calls [100]
QueenHigher folds
apezmonkeyz folds
uRSliver123 folds
rjblack has been reconnected and has 7  seconds to act.
rjblack raises [200]
NUTZBOT folds
Pikey7 folds
BPRookieITB is all-In  [1,780]
napier26 folds
>You have options at Speed #1330173 Table!.
rjblack calls [1,680]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
rjblack shows [ , ]four of a kind, Fours.
BPRookieITB shows [ , ]four of a kind, Fours.
rjblack wins 3,910 chips from  the main pot  with four of a kind, Fours with Ace kicker.
BPRookieITB finished in 8 place.
>You have options at Speed #1330173 Table!.

Oh, and you know where to stick your 50p!