Being overstacked in a cash game...

[UpTheMariners]

if your a ev+ player surely you want as much on there as possible? Providing you've got the right bankroll

[jakally]

if your a ev+ player surely you want as much on there as possible? Providing you've got the right bankroll

That's a fair point Mariners - if the amount on the table becomes a disproportionately high percentage of your bankroll, then it may be a good idea to leave.

[AndrewT]

I am intrigued by all this talk of having more money at the table than you sat down with. It is something I have often seen happen to other players at my table but have yet to experience it myself.

[The Dark Horse]

Quote from: UpTheMariners on Today at 04:25:03 am
if your a ev+ player surely you want as much on there as possible? Providing you've got the right bankroll


That's a fair point Mariners - if the amount on the table becomes a disproportionately high percentage of your bankroll, then it may be a good idea to leave.

I think this is the point I was concerned about...  Initial bankroll of $2,800, so I sat down with $400 (maybe too much?  BR management isn't my strong point), or 14% of my BR on the table and vulnerable to being broke in one hand.

Having worked it up to $1,800, BR would be $4,200 - of which 43% was on the table and vulnerable.

As for the comments on the defenition of 'ratholing' - I did feel like telling the CL that he could stick my chips up his ass after the hand.

In seriousness though, I understand that sneaking chips off the table during a live cash game is wrong, and I understand why - but I still think that in the above situation, if I choose to leave the game for half an hour before coming back with less chips, I don't think I'm being really unfair on the other players, I'm just effectively saying "Look, I had a good session and won a lot of cash.  I'm gonna go cool it for a while, reassess my bankroll, and may come back for another session later." Surely that's not frowned on... it's not like I won one huge hand to quadruple my stack, and then got up and ran away!

[Royal Flush]

Initial bankroll of $2,800, so I sat down with $400 (maybe too much?  BR management isn't my strong point)

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[kinboshi]

Quote from: UpTheMariners on Today at 04:25:03 am
if your a ev+ player surely you want as much on there as possible? Providing you've got the right bankroll


That's a fair point Mariners - if the amount on the table becomes a disproportionately high percentage of your bankroll, then it may be a good idea to leave.

I think this is the point I was concerned about...  Initial bankroll of $2,800, so I sat down with $400 (maybe too much?  BR management isn't my strong point), or 14% of my BR on the table and vulnerable to being broke in one hand.

Having worked it up to $1,800, BR would be $4,200 - of which 43% was on the table and vulnerable.

As for the comments on the defenition of 'ratholing' - I did feel like telling the CL that he could stick my chips up his ass after the hand.

In seriousness though, I understand that sneaking chips off the table during a live cash game is wrong, and I understand why - but I still think that in the above situation, if I choose to leave the game for half an hour before coming back with less chips, I don't think I'm being really unfair on the other players, I'm just effectively saying "Look, I had a good session and won a lot of cash.  I'm gonna go cool it for a while, reassess my bankroll, and may come back for another session later." Surely that's not frowned on... it's not like I won one huge hand to quadruple my stack, and then got up and ran away!

As soon as your stack at the table becomes a significant part of your bankroll, it can affect you and stop you playing your optimum game - you might start playing scared.

If that's the case, the best thing to do is take your winnings and leave the table. 

If you're comfortable with the money you have at the table - play on.  Really in a cash game you should be prepared to lose your whole stack at any time.  If you're not prepared to do this, get up and walk away.

[RED-DOG]

So anyway, if you do leave the table, how long do you have to wait before you can re-join with less money?

[bolt pp]

So anyway, if you do leave the table, how long do you have to wait before you can re-join with less money?

I dont think theres one set time online, i think it varies from site to site.

[nirvana]

There are a zillion players on line who sit down with the minimum, make say 50% and leave. I hate that.

However, sat with $1800 after buying in for $400 - if you choose to leave the table and take a break I wouldn't give a flying fxxx if it was 'frowned upon'.

I often think running stop losses and market price sell orders at the poker table, like you might as a day trader, would make most people a little more money over the long run.

I know that on the odd occasions where I double or triple up at a cash table I tend to start to overplay hands (big stack tourney style) or tighten up cause I don't want to give up any gains - anyway, definitely lose my way - would be better off getting up and having a break. I guess the whole game is about self awareness really

[JungleCat03]

So anyway, if you do leave the table, how long do you have to wait before you can re-join with less money?

I was playing 1-2 om/8 on party the other day, and someone had over 1k on the table after winning a pot, only to leave and reappear with 200.

If this is uniform across all the party cash games (don't play enough cash there to know but I would imagine it is) then the time at party you need to wait before leaving and rejoining the table with less is pretty much the same amount of time as it takes flushy to eat a piece of food that is sat in front of him.

Now I think about it, I'm pretty sure I saw Tuff Fish having a rant at someone on his table for going south at party so it probably does apply to all cash tables.