Inexploitable??

[titaniumbean]

I think I prefer jam over mrC because without a read that the table or players in the blinds will reshove relatively light I think open jam will be better. Live players just barely reshove unless 'they have the hand' and they're going to adjust their calling ranges 'somewhat' for 6 max so I think just stick it in.

[SuuPRlim]

I reckon there might even be a case to min-fold vs some and min-call vs other depending on the players left to act

[titaniumbean]

I reckon there might even be a case to min-fold vs some and min-call vs other depending on the players left to act

yeah totally, live ftw. Still need reads to fully decide.

[SuuPRlim]

this would defo be EXPLOITABLE though, but there is a large difference between EXPLOITABLE and EXPLOITED

[titaniumbean]

this would defo be EXPLOITABLE though, but there is a large difference between EXPLOITABLE and EXPLOITED

that's the whole point, if our opposition cant exploit then we can play exploitably

[SuuPRlim]

this would defo be EXPLOITABLE though, but there is a large difference between EXPLOITABLE and EXPLOITED

that's the whole point, if our opposition cant exploit then we can play exploitably

inexploitabley

[Spraggs]

This is online right?

I didnt notice that there were no ante's when i 1st read, although with our stack size of 13BBs it doesn't change anything for me.

I understand if this is Live, min raise/folding could be an option vs a certain type of opponent, however he said he has no reads, and we have 13bigs, if we had 20+, and were just tryin apply pressure, minraise/folding pretty much atc here could be fine.

With a short stack as we have, r/f is rly bad. Shove w/ or w/o antes. (bad players will call all in with hands such as JQ, KT etc.. however if you just minraise, they will just call rather than jam, you are losing equity from these hands when they whiff, and chk fold the flop.)

[EvilPie]

me fail english, thats unpossible! -ralph wiggum

haha i was thinking this

Sigh.....

One spelling mistake in 4 years on the forum and it gets spotted.

Bit misappointed that Gatso missed it though.

[gatso]

me fail english, thats unpossible! -ralph wiggum

haha i was thinking this

Sigh.....

One spelling mistake in 4 years on the forum and it gets spotted.

Bit misappointed that Gatso missed it though.

sorry

it looks fine to me though tbh but then so does unpossible

[EvilPie]

It's not live it's online.

It's on Skypoker though so standard is as bad as live.

I thought about the raise call but the chance of being flatted in 1 or 2 spots is pretty high in these so risky this shallow.

FWIW I jammed and got snapped by 44 and hit.

Just wondered if I'd done the right thing.

I think in a higher buy in tourney where there's more chance of being shoved on then raise call would be decent.

Never ever raise folding against anyone unless they literally turn their hand face up and it's beating me.

[titaniumbean]

With this new information snap fist pump double pirouette. You'll get flatted if you min, you'll get peeled for your ai by Q high. fun times.

[SuuPRlim]

This is online right?

no, live 6-max tourney

With a short stack as we have, r/f is rly bad.

mmmmm
I cant see how if you have EXTREMELY tight players (i.e they are folding A9/77 etc, which is pretty common live)  in the blinds min-raise fold can ever be bad if there are no antes - I think vs these kind of players you could make a case for min-folding loadds and looads of hands, hoever the OP doesn't give any specific reads I realise

If there was a more aggressive player in the SB and a Massive NIT in the BB I feel like nut line would be to min raise call off the SB and fold to the BB (again I realise thats a pretty specifc example)

altho I do agree you could jam here and show a profit which is was Evil's initial question lol

[SuuPRlim]

sign ninja edit time posted just after two posts above

I thought it was live @ DTD for some reason

Yeah, ok, shove is quite probly the best line then, lol

[NoflopsHomer]

Min-raise/call is fine. Min-raise fold isn't terrible though vs some of the Skypoker nits who are never going to be exploiting you.

[Simon Galloway]

completely incorrect. I have a minraise fold range here where others dont which means its perfectly fine for me to have a minraise call range to balance it

If you know others don't, you should caveat that in the advice!