Beginners Q

[bundle]

cheers that makes thinkgs much easier for me now.

Thanks for the help

[suzanne]

Okay you guys have convinced me as I would like to improve on my cash game. So what is the best book to learn odds? Harrington 1? What on earth is reverse implied odds?

[bundle]

I don't even wanna know.. i'm still getting me head around implied odds

[Royal Flush]

Reverse implied odds are when you end up paying someone off because you got good odds to call.


E.G. You have the nut flush draw on a K55 board, you call a bet and hot your flush, but end up paying of a full house.

Or in a limit game you have T3 in the bb with 2 limps and the SB, the flop comes T72, now the SB bets you get 5-1 on being ahead but the problem here is, if you are ahead you will not get paid off, and you may get outdrawn, you are probably behind to a better T so will end up paying it off.

[bundle]

while we are at it, helping beginners. Was i out of order here.

I was playing a 2/4 cash game at the horseshoe casino last week, I had just busted some guy for all his chips when my KK held up to his JJ, He rebought $300 more chips

The very next hand after his rebuy he raised it to $20 there were 2 callers and i looked down to see 55, I called and the flop comes J 5 J  He bets out $40 next guy folds then a call, I flat call ,turn was a rag   and he bet's out $80 next guy folds, And i look at him then ask the dealer how much is in the pot, after the dealer tells me i call, rivers Q and he lumps it all in, I call, he shows AJ to my boat. He was coating me off for asking the chip count and another bloke at the table just shook his head. But i saw this as the only way to get all his chips, had i known he had the j I might not have done it...

AM I OUT OF ORDER..IS THIS A NO NO ?

[Ginger]

Look, I don't know if it was right or not, but personally can't see any problem with what you did. It gets a N1 from me!!

[Royal Flush]

I can't see anything wrong with asking whats in the pot. It's one of those things you need to know during hands.


I actually asked during a PL comp "whats in the pot" i got my answe, was 1500, i said "700" the dealer says i have to bet 1500, as do the other players, i said no i don't blah blah blah they seemed to think just because i asked what the pot was i had to bet it!!! Luckily the cardroom manager had a brain and gave the correct rulling.

[TightEnd]

while we are at it, helping beginners. Was i out of order here.

I was playing a 2/4 cash game at the horseshoe casino last week, I had just busted some guy for all his chips when my KK held up to his JJ, He rebought $300 more chips

The very next hand after his rebuy he raised it to $20 there were 2 callers and i looked down to see 55, I called and the flop comes J 5 J  He bets out $40 next guy folds then a call, I flat call ,turn was a rag   and he bet's out $80 next guy folds, And i look at him then ask the dealer how much is in the pot, after the dealer tells me i call, rivers Q and he lumps it all in, I call, he shows AJ to my boat. He was coating me off for asking the chip count and another bloke at the table just shook his head. But i saw this as the only way to get all his chips, had i known he had the j I might not have done it...

AM I OUT OF ORDER..IS THIS A NO NO ?

I did similar once with the stone cold nuts and asked dealer what was on the pot, on a board where I could be considering pot odds to hit a flush

I milked my two opponents for a few hundred quid more when I bet what looked like a busted draw on the river


I got stick from the table at the time, but when I posted it on here was applauded for good play

[bundle]

yeah my thought here was by asking, he would think im drawing and that im looking at pot odds, I knew he was pissed off with the KK JJ hand, and thought if i look like im trying to draw, he will lump em all in to push me off...he was saying thats BS you flopped the boat and waste the dealers time counting the chips when you know your going to call, don't know how you play in england but thats BS... and on and on he went...anyway since i had never played there before i thought maybe this was not a class thing to do... tough shit...read him right and got all his chips.

[Longy]

I don't see a problem with this bundle to be honest you are trying to extract as much as possible out of the hand and if this is the only way to get him to bet at again its a valid tactic. You could argue that you were asking how much was in the pot to see if he was pot committed to call an all in.

[Robert HM]

Reverse implied odds are when you end up paying someone off because you got good odds to call.

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[Royal Flush]

that quote is not quite compelte, its where u have the odds to call but you may make your hand and end up apying of ur oppo

[bundle]

I don't see a problem with this bundle to be honest you are trying to extract as much as possible out of the hand and if this is the only way to get him to bet at again its a valid tactic. You could argue that you were asking how much was in the pot to see if he was pot committed to call an all in.

Good point, never thought about it like that