KK v 113bb push...

[Rossibaby]

there is something wrong with your strategy if you folding KK there.the only time ever you should fold them does not occur in a cash game but in a tourny!cash you can look at it two ways...call and win lots of chips,[you could still hit a king its not impossible] of fold because the all-in bet came from a super-tight guy who hasnt played any hands all night,shake his hand and reload.in fact i doubt i would call if there was players behind me.......i'd shove

[kinboshi]

there is something wrong with your strategy if you folding KK there.the only time ever you should fold them does not occur in a cash game but in a tourny!cash you can look at it two ways...call and win lots of chips,[you could still hit a king its not impossible] of fold because the all-in bet came from a super-tight guy who hasnt played any hands all night,shake his hand and reload.in fact i doubt i would call if there was players behind me.......i'd shove

What about the call and lose lots of chips option?

[AlexMartin]

there is something wrong with your strategy if you folding KK there.the only time ever you should fold them does not occur in a cash game but in a tourny!cash you can look at it two ways...call and win lots of chips,[you could still hit a king its not impossible] of fold because the all-in bet came from a super-tight guy who hasnt played any hands all night,shake his hand and reload.in fact i doubt i would call if there was players behind me.......i'd shove

What about the call and lose lots of chips money option?

[UpTheMariners]

i dont really care about whether its a tournament or a cash game, its about making the right decision. just because i can reload straight away, doesn't mean i should call.

[UpTheMariners]

ok i decided to fold after much thought.

rudddaniel folded
_OntheLine_ called - $685.90

** Dealing the flop:  ,  , 

** Dealing the turn: 

** Dealing the river: 
JackJordan shows:  , 
_OntheLine_ shows:  , 
_OntheLine_ wins $1398.80 from the main pot


brave call by onetheline who is a regular and has played this guy before!!! i think i might start datamining.

Wow. Thats when you think bollox im a nit.

Nit you say???




** Game ID 1728782741 starting - 2007-11-21 02:05:03
** Something Beautiful [Hold 'em] (3.00|6.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- rudddaniel sitting in seat 1 with $603.00
- Darinox sitting in seat 2 with $1698.82
- alas2570 sitting in seat 4 with $611.86
- Condorcet sitting in seat 5 with $798.25
- __pike__ sitting in seat 6 with $99.15 [Dealer]

rudddaniel posted the small blind - $3.00
Darinox posted the big blind - $6.00
** Dealing card to rudddaniel:  , 
alas2570 folded
Condorcet folded
__pike__ folded
rudddaniel called - $6.00
Darinox bet - $24.00
rudddaniel raised - $78.00
Darinox called - $78.00

** Dealing the flop:  ,  , 
rudddaniel bet - $84.00
Darinox raised - $190.00
rudddaniel called - $190.00

** Dealing the turn: 
rudddaniel checked
Darinox bet - $340.00
rudddaniel went all-in - $338.00

** Dealing the river: 
rudddaniel shows:  , 
Darinox shows:  , 
Darinox wins $1209.00 from the main pot

End of game 1728782741

no need to analyse this hand thank you

[snoopy1239]

The initial post is a call for me unless you know the player. The possibility that he is either on tilt, a gambler, or holding an inferior hand override the chances of Aces for me.

[geeforce1]

^^^^as above

making the right decsion is important, and over 1000 hands a call is def right in this situation.

[Rossibaby]

well to the lads above fold your kings away...if you're playing regularly then its a defo call

[JDPriest]

I might break my mouse clicking call so fast

[doubleup]

Sorry to resurrect this but one point just occurred to me as I folded KK the other day to an allin 4 bet from an 18/9 regular.  There are players who are fairly sure that there hand is face up when the 4 bet, so they just push in the hope of getting a call from KK.  Most competent players realise that all-in 3 betting with AA is a fairly good way to minimise profits and are unlikely to do it, so this probably means that the situation described in the OP is a call.