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boldie
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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November 16, 2007, 02:02:11 PM »
Quote from: Bongo on November 16, 2007, 01:30:24 PM
Just because you can reload doesn't mean you should make a bad call. You can always go onto the next tournament anyway.
In a tournament you have to win all the chips (and so does everyone else) in a cash game you can do very nicely just by winning some, an approach that would lead to you blinding out in a tournament!
true..and I'm not saying this is always a call. I am fine with everyone voting to fold here. I would be more inclined to call this in a cash game than in the very early tages of a tourney
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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Quote from: boldie on November 16, 2007, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: Bongo on November 16, 2007, 01:30:24 PM
Just because you can reload doesn't mean you should make a bad call. You can always go onto the next tournament anyway.
In a tournament you have to win all the chips (and so does everyone else) in a cash game you can do very nicely just by winning some, an approach that would lead to you blinding out in a tournament!
true..and I'm not saying this is always a call. I am fine with everyone voting to fold here. I would be more inclined to call this in a cash game than in the very early stages of a tourney
Me too. But again, if I don't know the player, I would still lean on the side of caution and fold. If I've played with the player before and have anything on him then I might be in a position where I'd call.
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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Quote from: kinboshi on November 16, 2007, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: boldie on November 16, 2007, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: Bongo on November 16, 2007, 01:30:24 PM
Just because you can reload doesn't mean you should make a bad call. You can always go onto the next tournament anyway.
In a tournament you have to win all the chips (and so does everyone else) in a cash game you can do very nicely just by winning some, an approach that would lead to you blinding out in a tournament!
true..and I'm not saying this is always a call. I am fine with everyone voting to fold here. I would be more inclined to call this in a cash game than in the very early stages of a tourney
Me too. But again, if I don't know the player, I would still lean on the side of caution and fold. If I've played with the player before and have anything on him then I might be in a position where I'd call.
yeah it's a tricky call I'll admit that..I'd be inclined to make it but not very happy abut doing so.
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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November 16, 2007, 03:18:22 PM »
Quote from: boldie on November 16, 2007, 02:14:52 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on November 16, 2007, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: boldie on November 16, 2007, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: Bongo on November 16, 2007, 01:30:24 PM
Just because you can reload doesn't mean you should make a bad call. You can always go onto the next tournament anyway.
In a tournament you have to win all the chips (and so does everyone else) in a cash game you can do very nicely just by winning some, an approach that would lead to you blinding out in a tournament!
true..and I'm not saying this is always a call. I am fine with everyone voting to fold here. I would be more inclined to call this in a cash game than in the very early stages of a tourney
Me too. But again, if I don't know the player, I would still lean on the side of caution and fold. If I've played with the player before and have anything on him then I might be in a position where I'd call.
yeah it's a tricky call I'll admit that..I'd be inclined to make it but not very happy abut doing so.
Miserable German sod.
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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November 16, 2007, 03:32:23 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on November 16, 2007, 03:18:22 PM
Quote from: boldie on November 16, 2007, 02:14:52 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on November 16, 2007, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: boldie on November 16, 2007, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: Bongo on November 16, 2007, 01:30:24 PM
Just because you can reload doesn't mean you should make a bad call. You can always go onto the next tournament anyway.
In a tournament you have to win all the chips (and so does everyone else) in a cash game you can do very nicely just by winning some, an approach that would lead to you blinding out in a tournament!
true..and I'm not saying this is always a call. I am fine with everyone voting to fold here. I would be more inclined to call this in a cash game than in the very early stages of a tourney
Me too. But again, if I don't know the player, I would still lean on the side of caution and fold. If I've played with the player before and have anything on him then I might be in a position where I'd call.
yeah it's a tricky call I'll admit that..I'd be inclined to make it but not very happy abut doing so.
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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November 16, 2007, 04:13:02 PM »
insta...
fold.
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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November 16, 2007, 10:14:08 PM »
Quote from: boldie on November 16, 2007, 01:23:07 PM
Quote from: TheChipPrince on November 16, 2007, 12:57:48 PM
The original post, and the replies are very similar to Kinboshi's post about calling with KK after a re-reaise from 400 to 10,000 in an APAT event...
there is a massive difference between a cash game and a tourney though. Tounryes yo get knocked out of..cash you just reload
You're right that there is a big difference between cash and tournaments- however, it is not the fact that in tournaments you get knocked out whereas in cash you can just reload!
In generally, calling 100BB with KK pre is a far better move in a tournament than at the cash table.
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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November 17, 2007, 05:38:47 AM »
A bit sick tbh. Im deffo throwing up. I cant see him pushing anything but AA in this spot. If he was an unknown i call, a reg i fold. If its 2.30am on a Friday night i call, if its 3pm on a Tuesday i fold. Fuckit i call.
Does ITB do online cash game insurance?
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November 17, 2007, 09:51:01 AM »
There's always disconnection protection...
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November 18, 2007, 02:37:21 AM »
i could never fold kk now for 1 buyin in this situation (but the games r far more agg pf at 10 20 than at 3 6 where i did fold it a lot more). i think its important that this player is either a known or a newbie. if i know him as a reg grinder at the level the call is much harder. if he is an unknown/a donk (i treat unknowns and donks the same, they need to earn respect b/c more often than not an unknown is a donk) then its an insta call. for 1buyin to get kk in vs aa isnt bad at all and i think -ev folding. i need a better reason to fold.
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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November 18, 2007, 03:07:50 AM »
Quote from: Alex Martin on November 17, 2007, 05:38:47 AM
A bit sick tbh. Im deffo throwing up. I cant see him pushing anything but AA in this spot. If he was an unknown i call, a reg i fold. If its 2.30am on a Friday night i call, if its 3pm on a Tuesday i fold. Fuckit i call.
I think this sums the hand up really
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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November 18, 2007, 05:23:27 PM »
ok i decided to fold after much thought.
rudddaniel folded
_OntheLine_ called - $685.90
** Dealing the flop:
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** Dealing the turn:
** Dealing the river:
JackJordan shows:
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_OntheLine_ shows:
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_OntheLine_ wins $1398.80 from the main pot
brave call by onetheline who is a regular and has played this guy before!!! i think i might start datamining.
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Re: KK v 113bb push...
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November 18, 2007, 05:35:09 PM »
I call
wow!!!! lol donkaments
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November 19, 2007, 07:02:49 AM »
Quote from: UpTheMariners on November 18, 2007, 05:23:27 PM
ok i decided to fold after much thought.
rudddaniel folded
_OntheLine_ called - $685.90
** Dealing the flop:
,
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** Dealing the turn:
** Dealing the river:
JackJordan shows:
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_OntheLine_ shows:
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_OntheLine_ wins $1398.80 from the main pot
brave call by onetheline who is a regular and has played this guy before!!! i think i might start datamining.
Wow. Thats when you think bollox im a nit.
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Quote from: Rookie (Rodney) on November 16, 2007, 11:41:10 AM
Cash game instacallage.
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