Fish?

[Laxie]

I admit it was a bit dodgy to raise having only 2 hands (AA and sooooted connectors) of the 4 I should have had pre-flop, but I was beyond annoyed at that point.  Once the flop came with my AA and open end straight, no way I was backing down.  Wasn't too excited about the flush draw possibilities because my cards were so low and wasn't til the chips were being raked my way on the river that I even realised I had a gut shot straight flush draw.  Didn't mention that to the people at the table.  lol  ntacaks was the one who called me a fish when it was over and I didn't reply.  He'd folded on the flop, but I'd love to know what he started the hand with to say he even called pre.

As for cash games, I've been giving them a go at the micro stakes and doing pretty ok.  Most I'll sit down to is the .10/.20 just yet, but sticking to the 4 hands rule has really helped.  Don't win every hand I see a flop on, but the percentages have definitely gone up, so thanks TJ & co.! 

[Sunday8pm]

I think the trouble with your hand is that on the flop your drawing thin to a straight.  I would prefer to check the flop and then get the chips in on the turn when you gave made the nut straight.

I don't think you are getting rid of matey with his 8 Q 8 J he has flopped top set 3rd nut flush draw and he has been given a gut shot on the turn.  Not sure that you ever get him to pass that at the lower limits.

Fold pre.
Check flop
get it in on the turn.

Fold pre with AAxx?

As for making someone pass top set and a fd, which levels are they going to do this at?

Why wouldn't you fold AAXX pre?

Afterall its only a pair and sure to be behind to many holdings.  If one of the Aces where suited perhaps you could make a case for carrying on. 

I don't expect anyone to pass top set and the fd on the flop but certainly they can on the turn

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[Sunday8pm]

You have raised with AA and hit as good a flop as you can expect. You have to fire a continuation bet out. And at least you have backup if you run into a hand.

The only other way this hand would have been to not raise pre flop. Once you have done, you are comitted. There is a case for never raising aces pre flop, although that makes more sense in a cash game.

KK62 is by far the fish in this hand.

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[boldie]

i have to go with the migraine man there. (I am assuming the guy has a migraine as I just about have one)

There is a case for folding AAxx in Omaha pre-flop?  Sure there is..but this sure as hell ain't it here and generally folding AAxx in Omaha is more often bad than good. (Unless you don't know how to play through the board?) I don't know but I'm baffled by the comment.

AAxx is likely to be behind pre? I must have been playing the wrong game when I select the Omaha tab or play Omaha tourneys.


Laxie played it exactly right. Nothing wrong with raising pre..nothing at all (in nicer position would have been nicer and check raising is something I prefer if I think someone behind me is going to raise anyways BUT this is fine)
If the table is a limping one (which in Omaha it ussually is) but not one where everybody calls a raise, a RAISE pre-flop is MUCH better than just limping with your AAxx.

Not betting the flop and turn would have been bad..it's fine with your hand to bet here. I am stunned by anyone saying that this is bad. Sure you were behind to top set and better FD on the flop but what are you gonna do, check fold?..check call? In omaha ANY flop can give someone a set and almost any flop can give someone a FD (and in this case it would be a better one) are we going to fold every time? How the chips would not go in on that flop would be beyond me...you've got nice draws coming out of your ears! and on the turn you hit and get paid! Happy days!.

[Sunday8pm]

i have to go with the migraine man there. (I am assuming the guy has a migraine as I just about have one)

There is a case for folding AAxx in Omaha pre-flop?  Sure there is..but this sure as hell ain't it here and generally folding AAxx in Omaha is more often bad than good. (Unless you don't know how to play through the board?) I don't know but I'm baffled by the comment.

AAxx is likely to be behind pre? I must have been playing the wrong game when I select the Omaha tab or play Omaha tourneys.


Laxie played it exactly right. Nothing wrong with raising pre..nothing at all (in nicer position would have been nicer and check raising is something I prefer if I think someone behind me is going to raise anyways BUT this is fine)
If the table is a limping one (which in Omaha it ussually is) but not one where everybody calls a raise, a RAISE pre-flop is MUCH better than just limping with your AAxx.

Not betting the flop and turn would have been bad..it's fine with your hand to bet here. I am stunned by anyone saying that this is bad. Sure you were behind to top set and better FD on the flop but what are you gonna do, check fold?..check call? In omaha ANY flop can give someone a set and almost any flop can give someone a FD (and in this case it would be a better one) are we going to fold every time? How the chips would not go in on that flop would be beyond me...you've got nice draws coming out of your ears! and on the turn you hit and get paid! Happy days!.

Good post. Very accurate without overcomplicating things...

[Royal Flush]

Someone please link this thread to Dubai

[Sunday8pm]

Someone please link this thread to Dubai

lol

insta life-tilt

[Royal Flush]

Someone please link this thread to Dubai

lol

insta life-tilt

You his driver today?

[Sunday8pm]

No why, wheres he going

[Royal Flush]

No why, wheres he going

Darts/Dogs/Buddies obv

[RichEO]

Why would you never raise AAxx pre ?

It depends on you raising frequency. I'm sure you won't have a problem disguising the fact you have AAxx but others don't raise enough and it's easier to put them on the hand and you know exactly where you are.

[boldie]

Why would you never raise AAxx pre ?

It depends on you raising frequency. I'm sure you won't have a problem disguising the fact you have AAxx but others don't raise enough and it's easier to put them on the hand and you know exactly where you are.

But surely that means you should be raising with more hands rather than not raising with AAxx?

[Royal Flush]

Why would you never raise AAxx pre ?

It depends on you raising frequency. I'm sure you won't have a problem disguising the fact you have AAxx but others don't raise enough and it's easier to put them on the hand and you know exactly where you are.

But surely that means you should be raising with more hands rather than not raising with AAxx?

Thankyou

[Ironside]

laxie

never in a million year would i be folding your hand prelop in an omaha "COMP" ,

you have to get as much money in the middle preflop as you can to try and isolate one of the other players

personally i HATE the preflop call of a raise with 88QJss when so shallow on most flops you are in so much trouble and your wasting
a large % of your stack as you will be folding alot of times post flop

dont know what the kings were thinking if playing that hand he should be opening for a raise to find out where he is


but then again its a rebuy people take risks and play bad in omaha rebuys so they can get a stack of chips for when the freezeout starts