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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2008, 03:39:27 PM »

And what are you going to do when he bets the river?

Call...

Just always call the river and you get the same effect as shoving the turn with the added benefit your oppo might bluff, if you shove the turn he probs aint playing 78o
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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2008, 03:58:04 PM »

C'mon James, you don't get the same effect at all. You pay off A-J/Q-J/Q-Q, any pp hitting a set and any flush or straight draw that completes, and that wouldn't have happened if you pushed on the turn. If there was like 700 in the pot I would agree with you.
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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2008, 04:00:38 PM »

C'mon James, you don't get the same effect at all. You pay off A-J/Q-J/Q-Q, any pp hitting a set and any flush or straight draw that completes, and that wouldn't have happened if you pushed on the turn. If there was like 700 in the pot I would agree with you.

lol you think AJ QJ QQ are leading to fold?
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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2008, 04:49:41 PM »

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lol you think AJ QJ QQ are leading to fold?

Maybe. But pushing represents your only opportunity to beat these hands anyway. Calling on the river wont beat them. These are the made hands that beat you, but I'm more concerned about the plethora of draws that can beat you, random A's and Q's that can beat you, as well as the realistic possiblity you will be bluffed anyway. I don't mind paying off a king on the turn but I'm not liking paying off a hand that got there on the river...there's 5k in the pot!
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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2008, 05:18:39 PM »

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lol you think AJ QJ QQ are leading to fold?

Maybe. But pushing represents your only opportunity to beat these hands anyway. Calling on the river wont beat them. These are the made hands that beat you, but I'm more concerned about the plethora of draws that can beat you, random A's and Q's that can beat you, as well as the realistic possiblity you will be bluffed anyway. I don't mind paying off a king on the turn but I'm not liking paying off a hand that got there on the river...there's 5k in the pot!

You can't beat those hands, end of. What 'random Q' am i worried about? I can still get paid by flush draws when they miss, same for str8 draws. If a diamond comes and he shoves, then we swallow, other than that very unlikely event we win a bigger pot and lose a smaller one.
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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2008, 05:59:37 PM »

James, your strat is greedier than Rowland from Grange hill.
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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2008, 06:39:08 PM »

James, your strat is greedier than Rowland from Grange hill.

Never seen it.

Greed is generally a good thing in poker.
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