Bet the river?

[Graham C]

PokerStars Game #23468484055: Tournament #129748202, $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/01/01 21:49:48 GMT [2009/01/01 16:49:48 ET]
Table '129748202 113' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: sheshe Lefra (3885 in chips)
Seat 2: Graham0573 (3330 in chips)
Seat 3: 7zarks7 (3545 in chips)
Seat 4: cholotorre (980 in chips)
Seat 5: expat23 (1615 in chips)
Seat 6: natapuc (4405 in chips)
Seat 8: Emanuelebert (5640 in chips)
Seat 9: Speedy8985 (1315 in chips)
Speedy8985: posts small blind 50
sheshe Lefra: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Graham0573 [ ]
Graham0573: calls 100
7zarks7: folds
cholotorre: folds
expat23: folds
natapuc: folds
Emanuelebert: calls 100
Speedy8985: folds
sheshe Lefra: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
sheshe Lefra: checks
Graham0573: bets 300
Emanuelebert: folds
sheshe Lefra: calls 300
*** TURN *** [ ] []
sheshe Lefra: checks
Graham0573: bets 500
sheshe Lefra: calls 500
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
buddysbluff is connected
sheshe Lefra: checks
Graham0573:

Worth firing again?  I'm a bit unsure if his calling is an indication of hitting the flop in a small way or a nice flush draw or  indeed a made flush.

[LeKnave]

yeah defo bet ~1200

[Longy]

Oh yes 1200 sound good.

I would raise this pre as well.

[Graham C]

Thought I should have done, missed out on some more chips I think.  Obv I checked too and he had Kx.

I would raise this pre as well.

Yeah knew that too, not sure why I didn't tbh.  Will sort it.

TY for replies

[Royal Flush]

Raise pre, bet as much as you think you can get away with on the river.

[Graham C]

I know you'd think it obvious, but I'm slowly beginning to learn the value of raising more preflop other than taking down the blinds.

I will become a poker player in 2009

[Royal Flush]

I know you'd think it obvious, but I'm slowly beginning to learn the value of raising more preflop other than taking down the blinds.

I will become a poker player in 2009

Moorman gave me this nugget, NEVER OPEN LIMP.

Simple as that if you are first in then raise, if you don't want to raise then just fold.

[Graham C]

Yeah it's working a treat.   I raise pre, get rid of the blinds, the limper comes along, checks to me and folds to a cbet; I pick up a load more chips than I would have otherwise.  I really don't understand why it's taken me 3 years to work this out. 

Out of interest, at what stage of tourneys do you adopt this strategy?  From the beginning or around when antes kick in?

[Royal Flush]

Yeah it's working a treat.   I raise pre, get rid of the blinds, the limper comes along, checks to me and folds to a cbet; I pick up a load more chips than I would have otherwise.  I really don't understand why it's taken me 3 years to work this out. 

Out of interest, at what stage of tourneys do you adopt this strategy?  From the beginning or around when antes kick in?

All the time, NEVER is quite literal if someone limps infront of you then fine but if you always raise first in you will be amazed at how much more you will make.

[Graham C]

Thanks Flushy, will adpot it right away

[boldie]

I know you'd think it obvious, but I'm slowly beginning to learn the value of raising more preflop other than taking down the blinds.

I will become a poker player in 2009

Moorman gave me this nugget, NEVER OPEN LIMP.

Simple as that if you are first in then raise, if you don't want to raise then just fold.

this is golden advice.