French problems

[George2Loose]

Think Alex is saying he's never folding to a jam

[cambridgealex]

yeh has AK/folds to a jam <5%

[JustinSayne]

Bleh, makes preflop really really bad in that case.

By the numbers we should fold, but ingame i just flick it in if i get there this way

[jgcblack]

Not sure what else you were hoping for when you peeled pre.

Obv in the fold pre camp but once you call and get this flop, just flick it in. Were you just hoping to flop 3 queens?

equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    40.828%     40.83%    00.00%              6063            0.00   { KcQc }
Hand 1:    59.172%     59.17%    00.00%              8787            0.00   { QQ+, JdJh, JdJs, JhJs }

Only given half the combos of JJ and 0 combos of AK. In a vacuum we lose 6k every time we jam if he never folds. So with 18 combos of QQ+ and 3 combos of JJ (giving half) he only needs to have 6 or so AK combos for us to have breakeven flop jam.

Since he will be folding around 25% of the time. So we "win" 25% of the 28k in the middle.

Why isn't there any AA, KK in this mate?

[Rupert]

Not sure what else you were hoping for when you peeled pre.

Obv in the fold pre camp but once you call and get this flop, just flick it in. Were you just hoping to flop 3 queens?

equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    40.828%     40.83%    00.00%              6063            0.00   { KcQc }
Hand 1:    59.172%     59.17%    00.00%              8787            0.00   { QQ+, JdJh, JdJs, JhJs }

Only given half the combos of JJ and 0 combos of AK. In a vacuum we lose 6k every time we jam if he never folds. So with 18 combos of QQ+ and 3 combos of JJ (giving half) he only needs to have 6 or so AK combos for us to have breakeven flop jam.

Since he will be folding around 25% of the time. So we "win" 25% of the 28k in the middle.

Your combos seem way off there, I make it 6 AA 3 KK 3 QQ 3 JJ = 15 vs 12 AK. But you're also assuming that he 3 bets, cbets this size, and folds AK to a jam - some of these are less likely than 100% for sure.

yeh has AK/folds to a jam <5%

On the other hand, this seems like a really bad estimation/guess too.

[JustinSayne]

Derp, didnt consider our KQ blockers to QQ/KK

[cambridgealex]

yeh has AK/folds to a jam <5%

On the other hand, this seems like a really bad estimation/guess too.

I don't mean he folds AK to a jam <5% - I mean he has AK and plays it this way <5%, and assuming he calls all other parts of his range (JJ+) then he folds to a jam in total <5% also.

Or do you still think that's a bad estimation?