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« on: January 21, 2006, 03:27:20 AM »

This is in the last 4 of the 12K gtd on Tribeca.  My toughest decision of the whole tournament, because of the aggressiveness of my opponent.   I thought he was a good player although he got a lot of abuse from some people for being overly aggressive and lucky.  He had been known to limp with monsters like KK, AA, AK, so my hand range for him was massive.  I had him on KK-AA, or even AQ, to a missed flush draw, or a set.  I got myself into this mess by betting weak to disguise my hand.

So.. would you call or fold?





[Jan 21 03:07:10] : Hand Start.
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : Seat 1 : Domitian has $496,860
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : Seat 3 : the smiler has $339,600
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : Seat 4 : verner has $147,840
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : Seat 7 : lucasro has $177,700
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : verner is the dealer.
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : lucasro posted small blind.
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : Domitian posted big blind.
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : Game [313] started with 4 players.
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : Seat 1 : Domitian has
[Jan 21 03:07:10] : Stakes: 6,000/12,000 Current level: 17 Level up in: 11 min. Break in: 34 min. Players : 4
[Jan 21 03:07:14] : the smiler called 12,000
[Jan 21 03:07:15] : verner folded.
[Jan 21 03:07:19] : lucasro folded.
[Jan 21 03:07:21] : Domitian checked.
[Jan 21 03:07:21] : Dealing flop.
[Jan 21 03:07:21] : Board cards [ two spades]
[Jan 21 03:07:23] : Domitian checked.
[Jan 21 03:07:25] : the smiler checked.
[Jan 21 03:07:25] : Dealing turn.
[Jan 21 03:07:25] : Board cards [ two spades ]
[Jan 21 03:07:30] : Stakes: 6,000/12,000 Current level: 17 Level up in: 11 min. Break in: 34 min. Players : 4
[Jan 21 03:07:30] : Domitian bet 13,000
[Jan 21 03:07:34] : the smiler called 13,000
[Jan 21 03:07:35] : Dealing river.
[Jan 21 03:07:35] : Board cards [ two spades ]
[Jan 21 03:07:39] : Domitian bet 17,000
[Jan 21 03:07:42] : the smiler called 17,000 and raised 297,600 and is All-in
[Jan 21 03:07:49] : Stakes: 6,000/12,000 Current level: 17 Level up in: 10 min. Break in: 33 min. Players : 4
[Jan 21 03:07:57] : It's your turn.
[Jan 21 03:07:57] : Domitian has 10 seconds to respond.
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2006, 03:49:32 AM »

I would probaly have called, if he hit a set on the river then fair enough.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2006, 03:52:29 AM »

call, he thinks you are weak

I think you are way ahead, he could have a missed draw, an overpair, one pair maybe top pair

If he has a set, you have to pay him

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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2006, 03:57:41 AM »

I'll post whether I called or folded tomorrow morning once I get a few more replies.  Cards will be revealed.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2006, 04:08:48 AM »

His range is pretty small if u ask me.

He either has a monster or nothing imo.

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2006, 04:11:28 AM »

presumably the re-raise is a lot smaller if he has a monster?

or does knowledge of the player suggest otherwise Mr Chief?
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2006, 04:12:39 AM »

Surely the re-raise is less if he has a made hand other than a monster?

No way he pushes here with Top pair.

With a monster he may overbet to hope for call. But cant see him doing this with 1 pair, even if it was AA or KK.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2006, 04:22:36 AM »

He was very aggressive but had avoided playing pots against me up until this point.  Here's the rest of the hand:

[Jan 21 03:08:03] : Domitian called 297,600
[Jan 21 03:08:03] : Showdown!
[Jan 21 03:08:03] : Seat 1 : Domitian has
[Jan 21 03:08:05] : Seat 3 : the smiler has
[Jan 21 03:08:05] : the smiler has 3 of a Kind:
[Jan 21 03:08:05] : the smiler wins 685,200 with 3 of a Kind:


I'd have liked a bit longer to make the decision to be honest.  I didn't mention that two hands before I had doubled through against him with KK when he reraised me all in preflop with an underpair.  Afterwards I was kicking myself at the call but the more I look at it I'm happy with it.  He made a great bet at the end and it paid off for him.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2006, 04:26:36 AM »

And... I went out 4th three hands later when I got KK all in preflop against AQ and K10.  A pitiful performance considering the chip position I was in before the above hand Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2006, 07:57:11 PM »

i wish i got to post b4 u gave the answer, i was gonna say he had trip qs or js,  i got the trips right just the wrong ones, u cant put him on trips or , i thought he was slow playing a set of qs or he called with js with the intention of pushing u out if a scare card came, i woulda folded the hand just wish i got to post b4 u revealed the answer
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