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Triple X
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Re: spurs ask for a replay
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Reply #15 on:
May 10, 2006, 12:24:33 AM »
Quote from: Nemesis on May 09, 2006, 11:53:12 PM
I am embarrassed.
How can you ask for a postponement, get refused, play the match, lose and then ask fir a replay.
The club should have withdrawn the team before the game, not after Arsenal win and Spurs lose.
Nem - u r right.
I am a gooner but this just goes back to what i said to you last night. Daniel Levy is a kid in a man's role - just playing around with Joe Lewis's money. Not knowing what he is doing and this letter is just so embarrasing
Yes you have done better under him but fot ffs u should be. When i was growing up, spurs were a top 6 club and even now i think (although i may be wrong) you get bigger home crowds than us(coz WHL is bigger)
Arsenal have Hill Wood, Edelman, Dein and Fitzmann, Liverpool have the Moores, Chelski have Abrahamovic, Bruce Buck and Kenyon, MAn Utd had edwards and now have the glazers. These are real business people - who is Levy?? And who else is on your board with any weight and gravitas?? serious question...
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Re: spurs ask for a replay
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May 10, 2006, 01:11:58 AM »
Quote from: Triple X on May 10, 2006, 12:24:33 AM
Quote from: Nemesis on May 09, 2006, 11:53:12 PM
I am embarrassed.
How can you ask for a postponement, get refused, play the match, lose and then ask fir a replay.
The club should have withdrawn the team before the game, not after Arsenal win and Spurs lose.
Nem - u r right.
I am a gooner but this just goes back to what i said to you last night. Daniel Levy is a kid in a man's role - just playing around with Joe Lewis's money. Not knowing what he is doing and this letter is just so embarrasing
Yes you have done better under him but fot ffs u should be. When i was growing up, spurs were a top 6 club and even now i think (although i may be wrong) you get bigger home crowds than us(coz WHL is bigger)
Arsenal have Hill Wood, Edelman, Dein and Fitzmann, Liverpool have the Moores, Chelski have Abrahamovic, Bruce Buck and Kenyon, MAn Utd had edwards and now have the glazers. These are real business people - who is Levy?? And who else is on your board with any weight and gravitas?? serious question...
Daniel Levy is doing a great job at Spurs. I would rather have him at the helm, than Alan Sugar or Irvine Scholar.
As for "who is Levy" well, to be Chairman of a Top 6 football club at his age means that he knows what he is doing, he has completely transformed the club, 2 years ago, under Hoddle we were battling relegation and look at Spurs now, the backbone of the team is very young and very strong with some great players. Two years ago, how many Spurs players would get into the Arsenal team? 1 maybe 2. Now half of our team would get into your team, maybe more.
You mentioned "real business people" and said Spurs don't have no "weight". We have Lewis behind us, who is richer than all of the names above put together (excluding Abramovic) so I guess we do have some "weight".
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May 10, 2006, 02:02:40 AM »
This is a reply to the Spurs letter from a NUFC fansite (nufc.com).
In the light of Tottenham's bid to replay the West Ham game, we have composed our own list of matches we wish to have a 2nd crack at:
Blackburn (a) 1996 - 4,500 Newcastle fans reportedly felt nauseous symptoms when Graham Fenton scored. Twice.
Everton (a) 1988 - a goal down in 30 seconds? we simply weren't ready.
Partizan (h) 2003 - The Serbians had obviously practiced spot kicks before...
Our Wembley appearances since 1955. Yes, all of them. But not that stupid football league weekend ...we'll let that go.
However we are worried that QPR fans may now attempt to have Kevin Keegan's debut match replayed - after all, the scorer himself admitted on camera that the Gallowgate End had sucked the ball into the goal - blatantly unfair.
PS - we especially liked the bit in the letter about the Spurs reserve players rarely playing together - who exactly does play for their reserve team then?
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Re: spurs ask for a replay
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May 10, 2006, 03:09:32 AM »
Quote from: AndrewT on May 09, 2006, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: gatso on May 09, 2006, 05:53:48 PM
I wasn't paying too much attention but heard most of Jol's post match interview. He said they'd contacted the Premiership and asked for the game to be put off. Reply was that it was up to the club and Tottenham chose to play the game.
Having already been told it was their choice they are embarrassing themselves by complaining afterwards
I think the options put to Spurs were a) play now or b) forfeit the game 3-0.
No - I'm sure they were told they can do what they like as it's "their fixture" but the league will look into any postponement and and may take "appropriate action" afterwards.
Jol, knowing he would only have to change two players, (and had cover for a lot more then two) knew he wouldn't have a leg to stand on when the Premier League looked into it and so decided to play the match.
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Triple X
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May 10, 2006, 08:55:03 AM »
Joe Lewis i think invests in at least 3 other football teams via Enic including Glasgow Rangers. He is hardly an active investor.
When did he last leave Bahamas (or whichever island based in) let alone actually attend a Tottenham match?
What is Daniel Levy's pedigree - that is all i am asking? Also i looked at your board of directors on your website last night - for a publicly quoted company, you have 2 other exec directors other than levy and one is your FD - is that it?? Who are these people??
You and i know that football is run in the boardrooms.
That letter to the FA is an embarrasement and reminds me a little of a pathetic letter i may write to a poker site coz i got outdrawn 2 hands in a row and therefore it must be rigged and its their fault.
To call the game your FA Cup Final is just a p*ss take. There is no difference between the 38th game of a season and say the 11th. They are all the same and you should not have left yourself in a position where you had to equal our score on the last game of the season.
I could pick that letter to pieces and i am not even a lawyer....and as no flops says, i love the bit about reserve players rarely having played together!!!
Finally i am not a Dr, but when offered an extra 2 hours, why did spurs not take them. OK its not the 4 hours they wanted but surely 2 hours is better than nothing???
Quote from: Nemesis on May 10, 2006, 01:11:58 AM
Quote from: Triple X on May 10, 2006, 12:24:33 AM
Quote from: Nemesis on May 09, 2006, 11:53:12 PM
I am embarrassed.
How can you ask for a postponement, get refused, play the match, lose and then ask fir a replay.
The club should have withdrawn the team before the game, not after Arsenal win and Spurs lose.
Nem - u r right.
I am a gooner but this just goes back to what i said to you last night. Daniel Levy is a kid in a man's role - just playing around with Joe Lewis's money. Not knowing what he is doing and this letter is just so embarrasing
Yes you have done better under him but fot ffs u should be. When i was growing up, spurs were a top 6 club and even now i think (although i may be wrong) you get bigger home crowds than us(coz WHL is bigger)
Arsenal have Hill Wood, Edelman, Dein and Fitzmann, Liverpool have the Moores, Chelski have Abrahamovic, Bruce Buck and Kenyon, MAn Utd had edwards and now have the glazers. These are real business people - who is Levy?? And who else is on your board with any weight and gravitas?? serious question...
Daniel Levy is doing a great job at Spurs. I would rather have him at the helm, than Alan Sugar or Irvine Scholar.
As for "who is Levy" well, to be Chairman of a Top 6 football club at his age means that he knows what he is doing, he has completely transformed the club, 2 years ago, under Hoddle we were battling relegation and look at Spurs now, the backbone of the team is very young and very strong with some great players. Two years ago, how many Spurs players would get into the Arsenal team? 1 maybe 2. Now half of our team would get into your team, maybe more.
You mentioned "real business people" and said Spurs don't have no "weight". We have Lewis behind us, who is richer than all of the names above put together (excluding Abramovic) so I guess we do have some "weight".
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Re: spurs ask for a replay
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May 10, 2006, 09:14:36 AM »
Quote from: Triple X on May 10, 2006, 08:55:03 AM
To call the game your FA Cup Final is just a p*ss take. There is no difference between the 38th game of a season and say the 11th. They are all the same and you should not have left yourself in a position where you had to equal our score on the last game of the season.
The game was more important then any domestic cup final
Quote from: Triple X on May 10, 2006, 08:55:03 AM
Finally i am not a Dr, but when offered an extra 2 hours, why did spurs not take them. OK its not the 4 hours they wanted but surely 2 hours is better than nothing???
If you have suffered from food poisoning before, you will know that 2 hours, 4 hours makes no difference, you will still have food poisoning. We wanted the game postponed, we were refused, so there is no point waiting a couple of hours, the players are still going to have food poisoning.
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Re: spurs ask for a replay
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May 10, 2006, 09:37:00 AM »
Quote from: Triple X on May 10, 2006, 08:55:03 AM
Joe Lewis i think invests in at least 3 other football teams via Enic including Glasgow Rangers. He is hardly an active investor.
Enic lost a fortune on their investment in Rangers - selling shares back to David Murray at a significant discount. However, depending on success they are due further payments from Murray.
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Re: spurs ask for a replay
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May 10, 2006, 06:37:41 PM »
I realise that their effort is probably a waste of time, but those taking the mick should try to think how they would have felt if it was their club. If Arsenal had lost 4th place due to this, or if my lot Man City (ok I know i am stretching the point here) lost out on 4th to United, or Everton to Liverpool, or if Celtic to Rangers etc. I know I would be camped outside the FA protesting by now.
It would also have been interesting to see if it had been one of the top 4 clubs would they have been treated differently?
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May 10, 2006, 07:17:39 PM »
Quote from: Indestructable on May 10, 2006, 06:37:41 PM
I realise that their effort is probably a waste of time, but those taking the mick should try to think how they would have felt if it was their club. If Arsenal had lost 4th place due to this, or if my lot Man City (ok I know i am stretching the point here) lost out on 4th to United, or Everton to Liverpool, or if Celtic to Rangers etc. I know I would be camped outside the FA protesting by now.
It would also have been interesting to see if it had been one of the top 4 clubs would they have been treated differently?
it isbecause tottenham are not a "top 4 club" that there is even an issue. if chelsea, man utd,arsenal or liverpool had been in this situation the fa and everybody else would be saying this is what they have squads for, they are supposed to be the best they have the best squads so they should cope.
if this had happened in january nothing would of been said about it, the game wouldve been played end of story.
i dont remember anybody jumping to middlesbourgh's defence when they couldnt even field a side let alone play with most of their 1st choice team and they got relegated, a far more finaincal disaster for a club than not making the CL, especially when spurs have never been in it before. Middlesbourgh's problem was it was in december so everybody just got on with it.
every team, apart from the exception of chelsea, are affected by injuries at some point in the season and they just get on with it, this is no different apart from spurs players were actually avalible just a little poorly.
you said you would be camped outside the fa protesting. if that was the case you would have fans outside there everyday protesting about dodgy sendings off, goals that were ruled out wrongly etc.etc.
do you think boltons fans should be outside the fa protesting about the 2 penalities they never got against spurs last week that effectivley killed off any chance they had of european football next season
as for the piss taking... im sorry but they are bringing it on themselves by going on about it.
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May 10, 2006, 07:39:29 PM »
Quote from: dan on May 10, 2006, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: Indestructable on May 10, 2006, 06:37:41 PM
I realise that their effort is probably a waste of time, but those taking the mick should try to think how they would have felt if it was their club. If Arsenal had lost 4th place due to this, or if my lot Man City (ok I know i am stretching the point here) lost out on 4th to United, or Everton to Liverpool, or if Celtic to Rangers etc. I know I would be camped outside the FA protesting by now.
It would also have been interesting to see if it had been one of the top 4 clubs would they have been treated differently?
it isbecause tottenham are not a "top 4 club" that there is even an issue. if chelsea, man utd,arsenal or liverpool had been in this situation the fa and everybody else would be saying this is what they have squads for, they are supposed to be the best they have the best squads so they should cope.
if this had happened in january nothing would of been said about it, the game wouldve been played end of story.
i dont remember anybody jumping to middlesbourgh's defence when they couldnt even field a side let alone play with most of their 1st choice team and they got relegated, a far more finaincal disaster for a club than not making the CL, especially when spurs have never been in it before. Middlesbourgh's problem was it was in december so everybody just got on with it.
every team, apart from the exception of chelsea, are affected by injuries at some point in the season and they just get on with it, this is no different apart from spurs players were actually avalible just a little poorly.
you said you would be camped outside the fa protesting. if that was the case you would have fans outside there everyday protesting about dodgy sendings off, goals that were ruled out wrongly etc.etc.
do you think boltons fans should be outside the fa protesting about the 2 penalities they never got against spurs last week that effectivley killed off any chance they had of european football next season
as for the piss taking... im sorry but they are bringing it on themselves by going on about it.
Another totally irrelevant post. Just another " My club is bigger than yours, we are Arsenal, snob post"
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May 10, 2006, 07:42:02 PM »
Quote from: Nemesis on May 10, 2006, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: dan on May 10, 2006, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: Indestructable on May 10, 2006, 06:37:41 PM
I realise that their effort is probably a waste of time, but those taking the mick should try to think how they would have felt if it was their club. If Arsenal had lost 4th place due to this, or if my lot Man City (ok I know i am stretching the point here) lost out on 4th to United, or Everton to Liverpool, or if Celtic to Rangers etc. I know I would be camped outside the FA protesting by now.
It would also have been interesting to see if it had been one of the top 4 clubs would they have been treated differently?
it isbecause tottenham are not a "top 4 club" that there is even an issue. if chelsea, man utd,arsenal or liverpool had been in this situation the fa and everybody else would be saying this is what they have squads for, they are supposed to be the best they have the best squads so they should cope.
if this had happened in january nothing would of been said about it, the game wouldve been played end of story.
i dont remember anybody jumping to middlesbourgh's defence when they couldnt even field a side let alone play with most of their 1st choice team and they got relegated, a far more finaincal disaster for a club than not making the CL, especially when spurs have never been in it before. Middlesbourgh's problem was it was in december so everybody just got on with it.
every team, apart from the exception of chelsea, are affected by injuries at some point in the season and they just get on with it, this is no different apart from spurs players were actually avalible just a little poorly.
you said you would be camped outside the fa protesting. if that was the case you would have fans outside there everyday protesting about dodgy sendings off, goals that were ruled out wrongly etc.etc.
do you think boltons fans should be outside the fa protesting about the 2 penalities they never got against spurs last week that effectivley killed off any chance they had of european football next season
as for the piss taking... im sorry but they are bringing it on themselves by going on about it.
Another totally irrelevant post. Just another " My club is bigger than yours, we are Arsenal, snob post"
thats irrelevant??? why?? because its not what YOU want to hear.
oh and by the way our club is bigger than yours sounds like you are a bit jealous
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Re: spurs ask for a replay
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Quote from: dan on May 10, 2006, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Nemesis on May 10, 2006, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: dan on May 10, 2006, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: Indestructable on May 10, 2006, 06:37:41 PM
I realise that their effort is probably a waste of time, but those taking the mick should try to think how they would have felt if it was their club. If Arsenal had lost 4th place due to this, or if my lot Man City (ok I know i am stretching the point here) lost out on 4th to United, or Everton to Liverpool, or if Celtic to Rangers etc. I know I would be camped outside the FA protesting by now.
It would also have been interesting to see if it had been one of the top 4 clubs would they have been treated differently?
it isbecause tottenham are not a "top 4 club" that there is even an issue. if chelsea, man utd,arsenal or liverpool had been in this situation the fa and everybody else would be saying this is what they have squads for, they are supposed to be the best they have the best squads so they should cope.
if this had happened in january nothing would of been said about it, the game wouldve been played end of story.
i dont remember anybody jumping to middlesbourgh's defence when they couldnt even field a side let alone play with most of their 1st choice team and they got relegated, a far more finaincal disaster for a club than not making the CL, especially when spurs have never been in it before. Middlesbourgh's problem was it was in december so everybody just got on with it.
every team, apart from the exception of chelsea, are affected by injuries at some point in the season and they just get on with it, this is no different apart from spurs players were actually avalible just a little poorly.
you said you would be camped outside the fa protesting. if that was the case you would have fans outside there everyday protesting about dodgy sendings off, goals that were ruled out wrongly etc.etc.
do you think boltons fans should be outside the fa protesting about the 2 penalities they never got against spurs last week that effectivley killed off any chance they had of european football next season
as for the piss taking... im sorry but they are bringing it on themselves by going on about it.
Another totally irrelevant post. Just another " My club is bigger than yours, we are Arsenal, snob post"
thats irrelevant??? why?? because its not what YOU want to hear.
oh and by the way our club is bigger than yours sounds like you are a bit jealous
I'm jealous of your stadium.
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there was no way a replay was going to be given, nor a postponant. Spain have extended La Liga by a week as one club needed a postponant so all clubs must play their last game at the same time to keep things fair and equal in any unresolved issues.
Didnt boro' have a similair situation a few years back when they got deducted points for not playing?
And anyway in the lsit of 10 players who were ill there didnt seem to be that many who actually woulkd have started, and for a club with more midfielders than anyone else it shouldnt be an issue, just shows a lack of faith in the backup players. Spurs ahve some great young players in their squad its just sour grapes
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Quote from: BlueWolf on May 11, 2006, 01:28:26 AM
there was no way a replay was going to be given, nor a postponant. Spain have extended La Liga by a week as one club needed a postponant so all clubs must play their last game at the same time to keep things fair and equal in any unresolved issues.
The FAPL said that we could delay the match by 2 hours, which would have resulted in us knowing Arsenal's result before our game would had finished, so in reality, we could have delayed the match 24 hours, but for some strange reason the FAPL wouldn't allow us to?
Why I wonder?
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May 11, 2006, 03:24:44 AM »
its just bad luck, they got on with it, lost, thats that.
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