English greyhound derby

[bolt pp]

The first round has just been concluded and i'm none the wiser.

I used to be really into the open scene but lost interest when they closed down catford(not the most reputable and prestigious open race track but i liked it).

poker has filled up a lot of my time aportioned for gambling exploits and ive missed out on the whole scene for the last couple of years so i need the discerning opinions of any blondite greyhound enthusiasts.

ive just seen that fear me and westmead hawk have been drawn in the same 2nd round heat, bit of a nightmare for the trainers.

I backed westmead in the final of the scottish dearby and was amazed with its trackcraft and determination, but wimbledon is a lot trappier than shelbourne and if hes to retain hes title he'll be doing it the hard way.

I always found that an accurate barometer for a greyhound derby finalists were the sectionals to half way in the early rounds but i've yet to consult the post for these as of yet but i'd expect fear me to be up amongst the top 3.

that being said i'm unable to formulate a credible opinion about anything other than the top two in the market, so if you'd please, who'd you like?

[GlasgowBandit]

In my experience with greyhounds if it can go wrong it will.

I tend not to speculate too much in the ante-post market, instead I like tow ait till the quarter final stage and then look through the times both sectional and finnishing times and pick from there on in.

Again what I tend to do is have smaller wagers on each race in the lead up to the final and try and make enough from that so that whatever I lump on in the final itself is covered if the worse comes to the worse.

One thing I would stick my house on is the winner coming from Charlie Lister or Nick Sava - both seem to prepare their dogs for the derby.

[bolt pp]

I saw westmead was tips on for the derby in the betting shop today but have still yet to catch any of the heats.

Anyone see how fear me went out?

[Karabiner]

It got drawn in the same heat as da hawk twice in a row and never got a run last time.

Westmead Hawk looks nailed on if there is such a thing, even better than last year IMO.

[bolt pp]

LOL i saw that it was drawn against westmead in the 2nd round and saw that they were still both in the overall betting(flip flopped) with weastmead being jolly

It happend again?

Nightmare fore the trainers.

If its stronger than last year its all over, shame they couldnt have met up in the final.

do you know if fear me lead clear and was picked up by weastmead in either of thier heats?

[Karabiner]

I'm pretty sure that Fear Me was a length or two up at the final bend in that 2nd round clash.

WH picked it up easily and won by a couple of lengths, but I don't think FM pinged out, led from 2nd bend though..

In the quarter final FM seemed to miss the kick and was never in the first three as I recall.

The semis are live on Sky tonight.

You can find all the past results on www.thedogs.co.uk

[GlasgowBandit]

There where a couple of suprises in the quarters, I had a mixed night I was on the first winner from Brian Clemstons kennel from box 4 looked very good and done the fastest time this year, also he seems to have hit a rich vein of form at a few other tracks as well with winners left right and centre over the past few days.

The Hawk was awesome, just awesome.  He's such a crafty dog, and you know he's going to be propping up the rear at first bend but he just sems to find two extra geres as other dogs are slowing down coming off the last bend.  I would really love to see him go further in distance.

[Graham C]

Anyone know anything thats likely to be running at Reading dogs tonight?  It's a long shot to ask as it's like the conference of dog racing I believe but I'm off so thought I'd ask yous in the know

[Karabiner]

God only knows how Westmead Hawk won it's semi-final, it must have been 100/1 in running.

I've never seen a finisher like it, I thought Moral Standards was good but da hawk is different class.

Amazing, truly amazing finishing speed and trackcraft.

[bolt pp]

UNREAL!!!!! not over the 480, just unreal.

must have been 10 lenghs down on the back straight, still 5 down on the run in.

amazing dog, never seen anything like that over 480 at this level.

these are the best dogs in the country and he runs em down for fun.

its almost as though he hangs back in an attempt to miss the trouble and shows an unreal sense of trackcraft.

Do you think he knows where the line is

[GlasgowBandit]

I'm gutted I fell asleep on the couch before the race and never managed to get a bet on.  Having already said Iw as counting on this as the get out of jail free card on an earlier thread I thought I'd hang of till nearer the off to get the best price as all they talke baout on Sky early doors was laying this good thing.

From the soudns of it Hawk was tremendous again.

How did Brian Clemestons charges get on?  He seems to have hit a rich vein of form.

[bolt pp]

I'm gutted I fell asleep on the couch before the race and never managed to get a bet on.  Having already said Iw as counting on this as the get out of jail free card on an earlier thread I thought I'd hang of till nearer the off to get the best price as all they talke baout on Sky early doors was laying this good thing.

From the soudns of it Hawk was tremendous again.

How did Brian Clemestons charges get on?  He seems to have hit a rich vein of form.

I only saw the 2 semis mate.

you couldve got 10/11 about westmead on the night!

[Karabiner]

There was plenty available on Betfair at slightly better than even money just before the off.

And if you had wanted to bet in running you might have got 100/1...........

[GlasgowBandit]

I'm gutted I fell asleep on the couch before the race and never managed to get a bet on.  Having already said Iw as counting on this as the get out of jail free card on an earlier thread I thought I'd hang of till nearer the off to get the best price as all they talke baout on Sky early doors was laying this good thing.

From the soudns of it Hawk was tremendous again.

How did Brian Clemestons charges get on?  He seems to have hit a rich vein of form.

I only saw the 2 semis mate.

you couldve got 10/11 about westmead on the night!

I know mate early doors they where banging on about 4/7 being too short and that itw as going to be laid, I had every confidence in the Hawk, having posted my nap on another thread on saturday for the GG's I offered an opinion that the Hawk was the ebst bet of the day and alsmost meant you where buying money. 

I thought I'd wait till just before the off and get on for a few ££  but as above I fell asleep on the couch after the 3rd race I reckon. 

[bolt pp]

the bookmakers will take it on again in the final because of the way it runs.