425 & Jen

[tikay]

She claims she is being "creative" with words. Put another way, she makes 'em up.

For those who crave good writing, Jen is a must-read.

[Ironside]

anyone that can read jen is a whole class poker player

[wormster]

I'm afraid Tikay is wrong - it is not easy to film every single hand in a final table that lasts several hours to get the two or three key hands that occur, we would go skint from using up tape stock alone - the show has a very tight turn around, edited tuesday, recorded wednesday. That's why we only "shoot to edit" ie what we know we will need. Which is why we, as some people think, look like we're not doing much a lot of the time! At the end of the day we are there for a very long time to get around 15-20 minutes of footage to go in the show. As for reverting to 30 mins, basically it's felt by most of us, Tikay apart, that the show lost is sharpness by being an hour long. Take last week for example, we had 17 minutes of VT (all nice snappy pieces) in a 55 minute show. That means 38 minutes of chat, which is far too much. Looking at the replies we will upset some & please others when we got back to 30 mins - that's the way it goes.

[byronkincaid]

Well done wormster, Poker 425 is an unwelcome interuption in my computer horse racing play. I have 5 TV's in my living room now so that I can multi-horse race and I'm thinking about going pro soon. Could you set up a forum for us horseites at all?

Cheers

[tikay]

I'm afraid Tikay is wrong - it is not easy to film every single hand in a final table that lasts several hours to get the two or three key hands that occur, we would go skint from using up tape stock alone - the show has a very tight turn around, edited tuesday, recorded wednesday. That's why we only "shoot to edit" ie what we know we will need. Which is why we, as some people think, look like we're not doing much a lot of the time! At the end of the day we are there for a very long time to get around 15-20 minutes of footage to go in the show. As for reverting to 30 mins, basically it's felt by most of us, Tikay apart, that the show lost is sharpness by being an hour long. Take last week for example, we had 17 minutes of VT (all nice snappy pieces) in a 55 minute show. That means 38 minutes of chat, which is far too much. Looking at the replies we will upset some & please others when we got back to 30 mins - that's the way it goes.

Hi Steve,

I never suggested we/you should film every hand. Just be "on immediate standby" to film the key pots, in response to a Post by someone who suggested it. It would not be difficult - at all - & would utilise maybe 2 or 3 minutes of tape.

You guys not doing much at the Venue? As if......

What will be, will be though. No key hands & 30 mins it will be!

[wormster]

lol byron - what about those horrible REAL LIVE greyhounds running around?

[RED-DOG]

Looking at the replies we will upset some & please others when we got back to 30 mins - that's the way it goes.

Can we have a vote Mr W?

I think you would be surprised

[Royal Flush]

Looking at the replies we will upset some & please others when we got back to 30 mins - that's the way it goes.

Can we have a vote Mr W?

I think you would be surprised

i think you might!

[wormster]

tony - we did use to have the second camera there to film the all-ins for the final tables we could actually get access to but we don't have that now. I know it's weird having a poker programme that doesn't show any cards but, apart from making us very different from all the other poker shows out there, Poker425 is, and always has been, about the players. We are there to record their interviews, be it in the early stages, exiting the final table or the profiles & in-depths interviews.

[RED-DOG]

tony - we did use to have the second camera there to film the all-ins for the final tables we could actually get access to but we don't have that now. I know it's weird having a poker programme that doesn't show any cards but, apart from making us very different from all the other poker shows out there, Poker425 is, and always has been, about the players. We are there to record their interviews, be it in the early stages, exiting the final table or the profiles & in-depths interviews.

I have to agree, there are a lot of programmes on TV that are dedicated to showing the actual game play, and none that do what 425 do so well.

I still think you should keep the one hour format though

[tikay]

tony - we did use to have the second camera there to film the all-ins for the final tables we could actually get access to but we don't have that now. I know it's weird having a poker programme that doesn't show any cards but, apart from making us very different from all the other poker shows out there, Poker425 is, and always has been, about the players. We are there to record their interviews, be it in the early stages, exiting the final table or the profiles & in-depths interviews.

Why does it need a second camera to record the "all-ins"?

Anyway, I believe the decision has been made, no key hands, revert to 30 minutes. TV Peeps know best!

I do agree, as it happens, that it's about players, rather than the play, as such, but if you read the thread, I was replying to a question from a viewer who suggested it.

There has been huge positive feedback around the venues to the extra length show, which costs much the same as the original half-hour version

But whatever happens, I've enjoyed every minute of it.

It's been emotional......

[Djinn]

I have only seen Poker425 once ever, I am afraid, at a friend's house which was correctly wired for such things - I think a short sharp show gives the impression that there's so much more that's just waiting to be revealed, but you'll have to tune in again etc. etc.  I like Anchorman Tikay too.

I have no idea how I came across on the Profile, but if I "exuded girliness" or something as mentioned earlier then I can only be thankful I don't have access!  I drink a lot of coffee at these updates, you know. 

[tikay]

..."girlie enthusiasm" Miss Mason. A different thing entirely.

[wormster]

Cheers Tom, like I said though we're not going to please everyone. Me & "the suits" just feel the show has lost it's pace by going to an hour (we almost end up talking more about football!!!). There's still a few weeks left of the current format but we will be having bit of a re-launch sometime in June. We won't really be doing anything different to the way we've always been doing things, we will still have the report from the event, profiles & in-depth interviews & the banter in the studio. It will just have bit of a new look & feel to it all & I hope you will enjoy the changes we make.

[RED-DOG]

..."girlie enthusiasm" Miss Mason. A different thing entirely.

Yeah, Miss "I've only seen it once but here's my opinion anyway"