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« on: May 16, 2006, 02:48:31 PM »

Everybody knows how fantastic both these players are, however Zidane hasnt had his previous form for about 18 months.

But My question is: AT THEIR PEAK, who would you prefer in your own team and who was the better player.

I know Ronaldhino is fantastic and easy on the eye with all his silky skills and tricks, but I would much rather have Zidane at his peak. Ronaldhino goes mssing in a lot of games IMO and Zidane was far more effective in big games. I think I might be in the minority in this one- it is easier to remember players recently than from 6-8 years ago(when zidane was at his peak)

who would you have??
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2006, 04:36:47 PM »

Just watched an Hour show on Zidane's career on player TV. You forget how good he actually was and he has won everything there is to be won at both club and international level.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2006, 05:03:21 PM »

Zidane is technically the greatest footballer ever. I rate him higher that Ronaldinho.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2006, 06:28:52 PM »

Thats Easy     Zinedine Zidane   The best all rounder.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2006, 06:51:52 PM »

Zidane is/was the best footballer of all time IMO
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2006, 06:59:21 PM »

wow surprising replies as everyone I speak to seems to think Ronaldhino is the better of the 2
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2006, 07:04:48 PM »

wow surprising replies as everyone I speak to seems to think Ronaldhino is the better of the 2

See how many goals Ronaldinho has scored with his left foot. Zidane in Euro 2000 was immense, especially the S/F against Portugal.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2006, 11:40:47 PM »

Zidane at his peak was unbelievable. He had every attribute. I honestly cant think of one weakness in his game when he was at top fitness. So from that standpoint he was better.

Ronaldinho is a scarey guy of 24 though. He was better than Zidane was at this age and so could potentially be better in the future.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2006, 10:06:49 AM »

I think Ronaldinho has the potential to be remebered like a Pele/Maradona.  I think Zidane, while amazing, for some reason has not captured the imagination and will be seen as a tier 2 superstar, with the likes of Rossi, Ronaldo, Zico, Socrates etc 
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2006, 10:55:03 AM »

I think Ronaldinho has the potential to be remebered like a Pele/Maradona.  I think Zidane, while amazing, for some reason has not captured the imagination and will be seen as a tier 2 superstar, with the likes of Rossi, Ronaldo, Zico, Socrates etc 

I don't agree.

Zidane is/was the best footballer of all time IMO

Maradona is the greatest footballer of all time so don't talk daft.


I'd have Zidane by the way but it's close.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2006, 11:37:58 AM »

Zidane was to France what Maradona was to Argentina.

2002 World Cup?
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2006, 12:38:17 PM »

ACE - I think we need more than I dont agree/dont talk daft before your opinion can carry any weight. 

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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2006, 12:45:59 PM »

I think Ronaldinho has the potential to be remebered like a Pele/Maradona.  I think Zidane, while amazing, for some reason has not captured the imagination and will be seen as a tier 2 superstar, with the likes of Rossi, Ronaldo, Zico, Socrates etc 

Why do you think this Pokerron?

Zidane has won every trophy, both international and Domestic. The most expensive player of all time and of his generation, 100 caps for France, World and European player of the year winner.

Zidane is one of the football icons of his generation and is known to be modest, quiet and self-admittedly shy. As a Guardian feature article says, however, Zidane has also occasional flashes of aggression on the pitch. Such a display of aggression, Zidane showed when he was red carded for headbutting Jochen Kientz in a 2000/2001 Champions League match for Juventus against Hamburger SV.

In 2004, Zidane was named to the FIFA 100, a list of the 125 greatest living footballers selected by Pelé as a part of FIFA's centenary celebrations. In 2004, he was also voted the best European player for the past 50 years in the UEFA Golden Jubilee Poll.

In the final stages of his career, many pundits and fans alike already identify him as the most important player of his generation and his name is regularly mentioned alongside former greats such as Di Stéfano, Pele, Cruyff and Maradona. Sadly, Zidane will retire after the 2006 World Cup.

With the French national team:

    * FIFA World Cup
          o Winner: 1998
          o Appearances: 1998, 2002
    * European Championship
          o Winner: 2000
          o Appearances: 1996, 2000, 2004

With Juventus F.C.:

    * European Super Cup: 1996
    * Intercontinental Cup: 1996
    * Serie A champions: 1996/1997, 1997/1998
    * Italian Super Cup: 1997

With Real Madrid:

    * UEFA Champions League: 2001/2002
    * Intercontinental Cup: 2002
    * Spanish League - La Liga champions: 2002/2003
    * European Super Cup: 2002
    * Spanish Super Cup: 2001, 2003

Personal honours:

    * FIFA World Player of the Year: 1998, 2000, 2003
    * European Footballer of the Year (Ballon d'Or): 1998

MOST VAULABLE PLAYER:

    * 1997-98 Ronaldo (Internazionale)
    * 1998-99 David Beckham (Manchester United)
    * 1999-00 Fernando Redondo (Real Madrid)
    * 2000-01 Stefan Effenberg (Bayern Munich)
    * 2001-02 Zinédine Zidane (Real Madrid)
    * 2002-03 Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus)
    * 2003-04 Deco (FC Porto)
    * 2004-05 Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2006, 12:56:59 PM »

I think Ronaldinho has the potential to be remebered like a Pele/Maradona.  I think Zidane, while amazing, for some reason has not captured the imagination and will be seen as a tier 2 superstar, with the likes of Rossi, Ronaldo, Zico, Socrates etc 

Your quote is missing one MAJOR piece of information. Zidane has not captured the imagination and will be seen as a 2nd tier superstar IN ENGLAND. If he was English he'd be considered the greatest ever - I'm sue of that.

Look at the list at the end of your quote. Mostly Brazilians. Us Brits (like many other countries) take Brazil to our hearts because of the way they play. Generally we don't talk about an Argentinian (who was into drugs and cheated) being the greatest of all time. (In my opinion he was the 2nd greatest of all time to Pele but you take my point.) In some countries (like Spain and France) Maradona WAS the greatest ever. We never gave Platini the credit some other nations did and I feel we sell Zidane short too.

Ronaldinho has a lot to do to come close to what Zidane achieved, and Zidane (with the exception of Madrid) generally played for weaker teams than "little Ronald" plays for and achieved a lot more (so far). Time will tell if Ronaldinho gets better than Zidane was but for right now? No.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2006, 12:59:16 PM »

Ronaldinho has a lot to do to come close to what Zidane achieved, and Zidane (with the exception of Madrid) generally played for weaker teams than "little Ronald" plays for and achieved a lot more (so far). Time will tell if Ronaldinho gets better than Zidane was but for right now? No.

Zidane played for Juventus. Hardly a "weak" team.
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