Everyone pushes here?

[TightEnd]

No byron it hasn't 

thanks for the debate guys.....



Would anyone have folded then?

[Highstack]

you can possibly stop'n' go on a non ace flop depending on your read of the opponents in the pot.

How can you stop n go when you're on the button?

How can you stop n go when nobody has raised?

When Raymer invented the term "stop n go" it had a very tight definition. Has it evolved to be something completely different that I haven't noticed?

Sorry - helps if I read the hand properly. I saw TE pushed first and was the short stack, assumed he was UTG. I didn't realise the call came from the blinds.

However, this still doesn't alter my thinking that KQ is not the hand I want to go bust with.

[BigTomatoes]

 i agree with junior on this, i would have pushed 100 times out of 100

 you are the short stack but you are not in desperation mode yet

 2 folds before you and KQ on the button, you cant raise to 300 - 400 cos you are pretty much committing yourself to the pot

 i wouldnt limp cos it is too weak ( KQ on the button is quite a good hand shorthanded )

 i definitely wouldnt fold , so what can you do ?

 you dont win tournaments folding so get your chips in you could have 2 live cards , you could get a loose call and be in front , you could be up against a pair and be 50/50

 you HAVE to go for it here , no other play in my opinion

[marcro]

At this stage, while you still have some fold equity, you have to push all in and wish for the best.

[Sunday8pm]

limp = NOT AN OPTION, if you miss then one of the blinds has probably hit. - and if you miss, do you push on the flop when the blinds both check? NO! - or If one of the blinds bets out and you hit nothing then you can't call. - you lost 1000, when 1000 is 10% of your stack!

Raise and fold = NOT AN OPTION - why put in 3*BB with the intention of folding to a reraise when you only have 11BB left? - thats over 1/4 of your stack! and leaves you with only 8BB's on a 5 handed table - too low!

You either have to just fold here, which is a weak option but you do have another round left in your stack before your too low but the preferred option is the one you took - you have to push all-in here and hope you don't run into a hand thus picking up the blinds.  However it is highly unlikely you get called by a worse hand - i suppose the best you can hope for is a fold or to be called by J-J, 10-10, 9-9 etc.  The problem with pushing QK is your gonna be highly dominated by alot of hands that will call you such as AA, KK, AK, QQ, AQ.

11 x bb is not in a terrible situation, nor is 7/8 x bb. Raising 3 x bb is showing strength, re raising someones who's just done that, shows even more strength. Theres nothing wrong with pushing. But your only getting called i think if your behind, which would be a shame to go so deep in a tourney then lose a hand like that. in my opinion there is nothing wrong with raising 1/4 of your stack and passing in the right situation. If i had to pass after id raised, id get in back on the next hand, or the hand after that by pushing my remaining 6/7 bb.

[Sheriff Fatman]

I like the push here.  Your only other option is fold.  There's no amount you can raise that doesn't commit you anyway.

Given your relative chip stack to the others there's a chance that people might try and take you out with worse holdings than the standard Any Ace, any pair.  I think you might get calls here from hands such as KJ, QJ, maybe JT depending on the players, as they know that they can all advance up the scale without crippling themselves by knocking you out.

You were just unlucky to run into one of the hands you really didn't want to see.

Sheriff

[Pokerron]

I agree,  The other thing to consider is in the next 7 hands you are never going to have it folded round to you with just 2 players to act after you.  This is *probably* as good as it will get.  Looking at chip stacks alone I cant see either of the blinds calling with ace rag, they would need a big ace to call, you were just unlucky that someone found one.

 I am a fairly cautious (I cant even commit to 'cautious') player and even I would push all in here.   

I dont hate the raise with the intention of folding as much as everyone else,  if I was in the blinds and a short stacked button rasied <3 times the BB, I would be suspicious and it would take a good hand for me to call and a monster for me to reraise. 

[Royal Flush]

I am still limping here, i dont go into blind panic push with dominated hand mode till 7 bb's

[this.life.my.cage]

im pusing everytime here. It was just unfortunate you ran into AQ

[lazaroonie]

the answer to this question lies in the motivation that Tighty has to play the game.

- If it is to finish as far into the money as possible, then its a fold

- If it is to win the tournament, then you are going all in.

I dont really see any middle ground here.

[TightEnd]

I needed to double up quick to get me in the mix to win the tournament. I was guaranteed $1k for fifth already....3rd and 4th were of less importance to me once I had got 5th, which was the final payout spot.

[bobby1]

I push.

[Nem]

ALL IN

[bobby1]

I push.

In fact I might push with a a lot less too.

[TightEnd]

*Nods knowingly*