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« on: May 23, 2006, 03:53:21 PM »

On R5 earlier, there was a funny interview with Martin Creed. Creed is an "artist" who has recently been successful in having his work included in the Tate Modern.  His Work No 401 is a recording of himself blowing raspberries into a microphone for 9 minutes.  This is then played on a loop. Tate Modern staff have complained because they find it annoying ( I don't blame them ).

I am not an expert when it comes to art, so I am not going to criticise this artist or any other. However I must admit I prefer what I would describe as "proper" art. By proper art I am referring to a picture or painting. But of course what one person terms art can be very different to another.

Creed has had other art successes. He is a turner prize winner with his Work No 227: The Lights Going On and Off. This is where a set of lights were programmed to turn on and off at set intervals.  Mr school physics teacher showed me a similar "work of art" during an electronics class once.

Perhaps I am just getting old, but I much prefer a painting of a lake with swans or even some of Derren Browns caricatures found on his website than this type of art.  There must be a level of talent there that I am not artistic enough or intelligent enough to appreciate. The artist mentioned his desire to express himself and the blowing of raspberries allowed him to achieve this. 

It sounds like I am criticising, I am not. I think there are certain things in life that people arrogantly think they could do as well. My first thought was  " I could do that. That isn't art ". But after thinking about it, maybe I couldn't. Perhaps this type of art is something that 50 years from now will be admired rather than ridiculed. If I am unfortunate enough to have to listen to any of the music from the Top 40, I normally think to myself something along the same lines   " God that's bloody awful. I could do that better than him  ". But recently, I have began to change my opinion. It isn't my cup of tea, but millions of others think it is great. They can't all be stupid.

 Each to their own I guess. I will stick with my Lake and swans paintings and keep listening to a WHO album for now though.  Cheesy


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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2006, 03:55:35 PM »

Do youi mean you prefer swans to penguins?
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2006, 03:58:02 PM »

lol   Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2006, 03:58:40 PM »

I saw some 'art expert' saying good art makes you think - but most of what he showed make me think "What a pile of keech". I don't think that's what he was getting at.

I got Banksy's book & consider his stuff far more artistic than a completely blue canvas, or a shed that is turned into a boat then back into a shed, or a ball of paper......

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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2006, 04:00:57 PM »

The tent.  The line of bottles on a wall.  The damaged speaker from a stereo . 

To me these aren't as good as a painting of something. But I am not an artist.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2006, 04:03:31 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2006, 04:04:18 PM »

The Tate Modern is a wonderful place, but very strange at the same time. When I last went there the main exhibit required visitors to stand in the middle of a white tube and watch as different fluorescent colours were displayed on the white walls to the sound of white noise and static. Very odd.

I like the exhibitions at the Royal Academy and used to spend time in the Portrait gallery too...give me old masters rather than contemporary any day
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2006, 04:04:59 PM »

The tent.  The line of bottles on a wall.  The damaged speaker from a stereo . 

To me these aren't as good as a painting of something. But I am not an artist.

Thing is though Banksy's graffiti can be more thought provoking than loads of portraits, or even great pictures like The Haywain etc... His objects hidden in plain sight were good as well - like the shark fins in the pond at Regent's park - or his vandal crows (destroying security cameras) - they all work for me better than a picture of someone/something...
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2006, 04:06:10 PM »

yes but no but hmmmm...speechless
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2006, 04:08:24 PM »

So do you mean to say that if I record my kids farting I could make a fortune?Huh?
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2006, 04:12:22 PM »

i'm an art lover of most kinds but some stuff now is just toss. I saw an exhibition of  called neanderthals or something and all it was were two monkey/man people holding hands, fair enough the sculptures were pretty good but then i found out the 'artists' hadn't even done the sculpting it was just there idea and they paid someone to actually make the sculptures.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2006, 04:15:33 PM »

i'm an art lover of most kinds but some stuff now is just toss. I saw an exhibition of  called neanderthals or something and all it was were two monkey/man people holding hands, fair enough the sculptures were pretty good but then i found out the 'artists' hadn't even done the sculpting it was just there idea and they paid someone to actually make the sculptures.

I've still not received my half of the commission for posing for that!! Cry
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2006, 04:17:52 PM »

i'm an art lover of most kinds but some stuff now is just toss. I saw an exhibition of  called neanderthals or something and all it was were two monkey/man people holding hands, fair enough the sculptures were pretty good but then i found out the 'artists' hadn't even done the sculpting it was just there idea and they paid someone to actually make the sculptures.

I've still not received my half of the commission for posing for that!! Cry



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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2006, 04:43:23 PM »

An good artist would never have to explain why his art is good, or why you should like it
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2006, 04:56:24 PM »

I reckon they have a forum somewhere in cybersapce, on this forum they are all having a little competiton to see whats the most stupid thing they can get into a muserm/gallery.

Its the only logical explination!

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