re-buy tournaments whats the best game plan

[4dam]

As like alot of you guys & girls i play in a lot of re buy tournaments. And i been trying to work out the best game plan. I have tried being as loose as a goose, and as tight as a scot man. i have done this ten times each. With virtualy the same results. Only loose cost me more. I found playing loose your chip count is up and down like an essex girls knickers. And playing tight you just get paid of when you get a big hand. I have also foound doing the oppiste to what most of the table is doing  is far by the best thing to do.


All iam asking is what way do you guys think is the best thing to do and why?


All the best

[TightEnd]

I agree with a lot of what you say, and myself have tried them playing ABC, play any two cards etc . One guy I know goes all-in for his first seven hands, and rocks up if he hits with multiple callers. If not, he tries another night!

The point you make about playing the opposite of the table is worth following in my opinion

One point I would add is the relative value of medium pairs and suited connectors early on in rebuy sessions. Assuming the type of things you play in are similar to those I know, if you raise with say 99,1010,JJ and end up in a multiway all in coup pre flop, then the value of your pair is much diminished...I prefer trying my luck with suited connectors. Not saying I throw away those medium pairs, but if I'm on a budget for the night and I am looking at 99 with four already all in before me, I do stop and think

[BigArmo]

Hmmmm re-buys.


Same principles as normal tournament play with a few twists thrown in.
U can release your inner child and raise or call with any hand u either get lucky or go broke.

This tactic is used by alot of players on Stars who frustrate many other players who will let go of some premium hands because they don't have the bankroll to gamble.

I like to sit back see who the gamblers are and pick my spots if i get unlucky so be it but this tactic usally works well, you won't be chipleader but then again u won't need to get to a final table to break even !.

I normally avoid low re-buys they are just mad, fun at times but mainly mad.

Re-buys can be great value but it don't take many blanks to hurt the roll, average spend on a $55 is $200 but the prize pool can be huge if the gamblers don't hit early.

Regards
BigArmo
 

[AdamM]

It is quite possible to play tight and effectively play rebuys as freezeouts. I have finaled several times at Notts on 20 in a rebuy and almosot made it in a 5 rebuy at gutshot last week. (AK v AJ v 10,9, blah blah) you have to have rebuys in your pocket incase your big hands get cracked in the rebuy (which they frequently will because most people will take the draws) but when you hit a few hands early in a rebuy and there's plenty of chips out their it can be a lot of fun. I find people say they play loose in the rebuy period then tighten up in the freeze, then fail to put the breaks on and chuck their chips away anyway. I've learned to catch them.

[BrumBilly]

For me there are a couple of key considerations:

1. If payout is top 10 then I'll limit my rebuys to ensure a profit should I make the FT.

2. If I'm on a table where the 'best' and/or 'tightest' players have all the chips I'll call it quits.

3. If the loosest players on the table have all the chips I WILL take a buy in that puts me borderline/break-even for a 10th place payout in the hope that I'll be able to accumulate a deepish stack.

4. Won't play a rebuy tourny that I can't afford. In the event I do, I'd play it as a freezeout but that would restrict my play somewhat. Bit of a balancing act there.

5. Original poster mentioned 'yo yo effect' when playing fast and loose and likened it to the undergarments 'up and down' nature of Essex girls' underwear. Is this an accurate similie? Do Essex girls' knickers ever go back up once down?

[4dam]

Sorry Billy i make you right mate, never met an essex girl who pulls them back up if they had them on in the first place. but they fit the profile of a loose player, cos lets face it that what these girls are loose players? LOL

[TheJagster]

Yes this is something I have thought about and worried about before. I play reasonably (and sometimes too) tight in these and I hate watching someone chip accumulate with massive preflop calls and raises with some complete garbage.

The trick is, however you play it must be adjusted to the table play at the time and the stage of the tourney. I've seen people build up big stacks on the " ooooo one of my cards is higher than a 7 I'd better go all in!" principal and then chuck it away after the rebuy period because they cant change or adapt their game.

I'm not sure if there is an answer (or at least I aint found it yet). One thing I would warn against is radically altering your game away from how you normally play....sounds a recipie for disaster that one.

One adaptation I have made to my game online at least that has helped isnt actually anything to do with playing but more to do with bankroll management. That is to stop rebuying in larger tourneys close to the end of the rebuy period. If the average chip stack is upto 3or 4 times the amount you can rebuy for (as it can often be on say Stars for instance), I think it 's better not to rebuy but save your money for the buy in to the next one. Otherwise your rebuying into a tourney where your already massively behind.

I dont always follow this principal when playing live (even though I ought to) simply for the reason that I'm playing for fun as well as profit (I wish!). But on line its different...you finish one tourney and the next one is there in a few minutes usually if you want.

[BrumBilly]

hehehe...

[Colchester Kev]

HHMmmmmmmmmmm  any of you student types study geography ?
Look up Colchester in the atlas,  come to sunny Essex, and for gods sake show me where all these "essex girls" hang out cos ive been lookiong for years lol.

PS, can we leave Essex girls alone now please and go back to picking on the Jocks

[BrumBilly]

Sorry Kev...couldn't resist,

Spent 4yrs in London studying and met a 'couple' of women that fit the stereotype. Will be back in London (fingers crossed) for the next 3yrs so our paths will no doubt cross. Will be happy to put in some leg-work on that front (purely in the interests of research you understand). Can't comment on 'Scots' women, haven't been up there in 20yrs so pretty limited sample size (for that read zero).

[stewart]

i know a case for both types of play the Tight no rebuys or very few, and the Loose lots of rebuys,  the only thing is if you are going to play either of thease types of game you have to be able to use it well,  i.e if you are playing tight on a tight starting table the chances are you wont make many chips, maximum 10k for end of rebuys which will be massive to your table no doubt, then you move the adv on that table is 20k you are in trouble, on the other hand if you are a loose player and may have 20 rebuys,the only reason you are *loose* is to put chips on the table, do you have the ability to get them back? is the table early to break?

i normally if a table is early to break dont rebuy more than 5 times, as there is no point if i play the loose way i carnt get my chips back, and normally find it more difficult to get into the final with chips,   if i am on a late to break table i normally suss out the 1st 30 mins what style of game i need to play, and also if i need to play loose to get the chips on there, you also have to look who are you playing how good are they ? if you give them 20k chips will they give them back, are they nuts players who know what the nuts are, or do they think KQ/AJ/ low pairs are the best hands to start with?!?


just my 2 pennys  stu